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[A Black Falcon]

Edit: I'll post it as a new post when I'm done.

(Post about harems, etc., if I remember correctly?) Why did you delete that? Have you posted a longer version I've missed somewhere in the thread, or did you forget about it... I was going to reply to that but didn't and then you deleted it.

Zeta Gundam, maybe? Four and Kamille are pretty obvious. I think it's hinted that Fa likes Kamille (maybe?) I think that would fit Branduil's definition. I really don't have much memory of it.

EDIT: If you count the Gundam series as a whole. Then Char... what a pimp :lol :lol

I haven't really ever watched much Gundam, so I can't say. I saw one of the short series (0080 or 0083 or something I think, not sure which), but that's about it.

This is what I was driving at, I believe. For a person who's favorite show are harem anime like Sora no Otoshimono or ToLoverRu, it seems rather silly to recommend them Kanon as an example of a similar series with the same elements they would enjoy over something like Princess Lover!

Sure, yes, there are different kinds of harem shows. Given how common harems are in anime, I'd expect it. But that doesn't mean that the fact that they have harems isn't one of the core defining elements of most such shows.


Ergo Proxy - I see some people are complaining about it, but I don't agree at all. I really liked Ergo Proxy and think it's a pretty good series. It's not perfect, but it is pretty good. The story is interesting; sad, yes, but interesting, and the ending isn't nearly as depressing as it could have been, which I liked a lot after all the tragedy along the way (

Spoiler

don't get attached to pretty much any of the minor characters...

). The story does get pretty confusing later on, but many things at least are explained, and you can figure the rest out. Great art design too. So yeah, good characters, good story, good art... I guess I could complain about the main guy being a little annoying, and not all of the episodes being equal in quality, but overall it's definitely a fairly good post-apocalyptic series.


Samurai Girls eps. 1 and 2 -- Stupid fanservicey junk... this rips off stuff like Ikkitousen, Queen's Blade, etc. shamelessly, and implements other fanservice ripoff elements too like the 'flying girls without pants' scene early on that was a blatant Skygirls/etc. knockoff. And then you've got the characters, they're all very generic and fit straight into stereotypes -- the generic hero guy who's scared of girls but is surrounded by them, the tsundere loli, the sexy dual-mode girl (you know, she has a awesome serious side she shows occasionally in battle, and a completely silly weak stupid side she is the rest of the time... sort of like Keina in Daimao, except maybe even more annoying...), the bishounen guy who's probably a villain, etc, etc.

I thought about quitting halfway through episode one, but then came back the next day for some reason and watched both episodes. For the kind of show it is it's tolerable, but definitely is nothing even remotely original or unique, that's for sure. The only shred of originality in the show is the setting -- Samurai Girls is set in an alternate modern-day Japan where the Tokugawa Shogunate still rules and keeps Japan cut off from the outside world. Evidently they kept themselves from being taken over with the power of their superpowered girls. Why nobody else has such things who knows, evidently only Great Japan (as they call it) has such knowledge. Um, right.

Basically though, they use that setting as an excuse for a show that feels like a 19th century Japan samurai era show... except where a few people have cell phones and some of the girls wear modern-style schoolgirl uniforms and underwear. The buildings all look very traditional, nothing modern here... so why the sailor-style schoolgirl uniforms? I mean, I can't quite see the Togugawa going for that... (oh right, fanservice reasons. Carry on.) And of course, imagining that even an extremely insular modern-day nation could somehow be so cut off that they don't have any modern-style buildings or weapons so so absurd... I mean, I understand that normal people wouldn't have guns, but the idea that swordfighting is still so important is a little silly.

I'll ignore things like how some of the girls wear no pants or skirts (with no comment from anyone), that's obvious fanservice bait/Skygirls/Strike Witches audience pandering.

I know, I know, I should just ignore all this absurdity. Unfortunately, as a history major I can't, and things like this bother me. It just doesn't make sense...

 

[Dresden]

You need Zakuro.

I loved the first episode, but the second was dull. Will wait and see and that one.

 

[firehawk12]

Lol, no. Kimi ni Todoke was fun but it was full of tropes all the damn same, some even the same. I don't know what the phrase "death of the author" implies so, yeah.

Kazehaya never needs to saves Sawako. If anything, he's generally placed in the background as Sawako takes matters into her own hands.

I give, I have no idea where I'm at with this one, is she common or something? I don't think I've heard it at all outside this show to be honest.

Well, she was Jun in Natsu no Arashi anyway. This is her first leading role, I think.

A little fetishism is good and healthy, surely you'd want your significant other to do the same right?

Nope, it's always bad! :lol

 

[mAcOdIn]

Kazehaya never needs to saves Sawako. If anything, he's generally placed in the background as Sawako takes matters into her own hands.

His mere existence powers her up, that's almost sadder than him just physically doing it.

Well, she was Jun in Natsu no Arashi anyway. This is her first leading role, I think.

They do sound a little alike, I guess they could be the same person.

Spoiler

How the fuck does these shows work when the girl's obviously a girl and yet the rest of the cast doesn't see or hear it?

Nope, it's always bad! :lol

I hope that's a joke or you're boring!

 

[Dresden]

Well, she was Jun in Natsu no Arashi anyway. This is her first leading role, I think.

Nah, her first lead role was in Soul Eater.

 

[firehawk12]

His mere existence powers her up, that's almost sadder than him just physically doing it.

Well, it's a love story... presumably the characters have to be at least attracted to each other. :lol

Nah, her first lead role was in Soul Eater.

Ah, yeah, right. Never caught that one.

 

[duckroll]

Nah, her first lead role was in Soul Eater.

Gross. That thing is still gets work? Maybe she's really good at giving head to producers, because I don't think there's much else her throat is good for. Certainly not for speaking.

 

[Dresden]

Gross. That thing is still gets work? Maybe she's really good at giving head to producers, because I don't think there's much else her throat is good for. Certainly not for speaking.

Ah, finally, another Omigawa hater. I was feeling lonely.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Well, it's a love story... presumably the characters have to be at least attracted to each other. :lol

Has nothing to do with that. Look, it's not that Sadako did everything herself, she's had years and years to do what happened that particular year. Kazehaya was the variable. Had he not been initially nice the other two girls may not have talked to her, had he not liked her the rival girl would never have bothered with Sadako had he not praised her every once in a while or reinforced the idea she's doing all of it she may have actually have done nothing. Not to take everything away from her as she does do tons on her own but the story really puts forth the concept that if not for him she'd still be disliked by everyone.

Ah, yeah, right. Never caught that one.

Didn't miss much.

Gross. That thing is still gets work? Maybe she's really good at giving head to producers, because I don't think there's much else her throat is good for. Certainly not for speaking.

Ah, finally, another Omigawa hater. I was feeling lonely.

So harsh guys, don't different characters need different voices or do we want everything to be voiced by the same 10 people?

 

[duckroll]

Ah, finally, another Omigawa hater. I was feeling lonely.

She has the most annoying voice in any debut role I've heard, male or female. Episodes of Soul Eater without Maka in it were automatically several fold better because of the absence of that grating noise.

So harsh guys, don't different characters need different voices or do we want everything to be voiced by the same 10 people?

No excuse for casting a dying cat in a human role though.

 

[mAcOdIn]

No excuse for casting a dying cat in a human role though.

I dunno, sounds like what I imagine a Japanese "hick" would sound like, I think it works. You guys are making it out like she ruined Full Metal Panic by playing a small clumsy girl with silver hair or some shit, it's not like that.

 

[duckroll]

I dunno, sounds like what I imagine a Japanese "hick" would sound like, I think it works. You guys are making it out like she ruined Full Metal Panic by playing a small clumsy girl with silver hair or some shit, it's not like that.

Well it's true that she only makes already terrible shows worse, so that's no big loss. But... hey that's not too different from Yukana too! :lol

 

[mAcOdIn]

Well it's true that she only makes already terrible shows worse, so that's no big loss. But... hey that's not too different from Yukana too! :lol

I figured that'd be Tessa's VA just from the context but I looked it up anyways, damn ANN do we really need to know their damn blood type? I guess it's handy if one of your readers stalking one of these women is nearby in the event the VA is in a car crash or some shit, but, I don't care what they think you can derive from blood types this is a western site damnit.

Yeah, Yakuna's list is pretty weak.

I really don't think Omigawa's voice is near that bad, but I have cats and know the true horror of noises they make.

 

[Branduil]

Gross. That thing is still gets work? Maybe she's really good at giving head to producers, because I don't think there's much else her throat is good for. Certainly not for speaking.

Haters gonna hate.

I don't know what kind of sheltered life you've lived if that's a horrible voice to you.

 

[firehawk12]

Has nothing to do with that. Look, it's not that Sadako did everything herself, she's had years and years to do what happened that particular year. Kazehaya was the variable. Had he not been initially nice the other two girls may not have talked to her, had he not liked her the rival girl would never have bothered with Sadako had he not praised her every once in a while or reinforced the idea she's doing all of it she may have actually have done nothing. Not to take everything away from her as she does do tons on her own but the story really puts forth the concept that if not for him she'd still be disliked by everyone.

I just remember the bullying episode. Kazehaya makes a point not to white knight her because he knows that it won't accomplish anything and she won't experience any personal growth. In any other shoujo (or really, most other texts), dude would not hesitate to jump in and save the girl. The girl would probably even welcome it.

It's why I like Preacher (the Garth Ennis book). The feminism in it is very dated and 90s-ish, but the main female protagonist hates being treated like a weak fragile object by the main character. In fact, they only get together at the end when he learns not to treat her in a patronizing "girls can't hold guns" manner.

Haters gonna hate.

I don't know what kind of sheltered life you've lived if that's a horrible voice to you.

Critics will most certainly criticize! (I'm trying to popularize this now).

I actually think her voice works for the character in SoreMachi. It's the perfect idiot/whiny voice. No idea what she was like in Soul Eater though... but I take it that she wasn't as good in that one. :lol

 

[DrForester]

I figured that'd be Tessa's VA just from the context but I looked it up anyways, damn ANN do we really need to know their damn blood type? I guess it's handy if one of your readers stalking one of these women is nearby in the event the VA is in a car crash or some shit, but, I don't care what they think you can derive from blood types this is a western site damnit.

People want to obsess like the Japanese obsess?

 

[Salazar]

R.O.D. TV is wonderful. Is the R.O.D. OVA good/better/worthwhile ?

 

[DrForester]

R.O.D. TV is wonderful. Is the R.O.D. OVA good/better/worthwhile ?

Yes. I know some people on here disliekd the TV show, but I enjoyed it, but the OVA was a lot better. You really should watch it first. it does tie together with the show.

 

[duckroll]

R.O.D. TV is wonderful. Is the R.O.D. OVA good/better/worthwhile ?

It's only 3 episodes, so even if you don't end up liking it, it's not a big loss. Great animation too.

 

[Dresden]

R.O.D. TV is wonderful. Is the R.O.D. OVA good/better/worthwhile ?

Sweet.

The OVA is great too.

 

[Infinite Justice]

R.O.D. TV is wonderful. Is the R.O.D. OVA good/better/worthwhile ?

The OVA is good and its gonna help you with the TV series later on, so i say watch it (finish it before continuing the series imo).

 

[mAcOdIn]

I just remember the bullying episode. Kazehaya makes a point not to white knight her because he knows that it won't accomplish anything and she won't experience any personal growth. In any other shoujo (or really, most other texts), dude would not hesitate to jump in and save the girl. The girl would probably even welcome it.

But isn't that also White Knighting if he makes a conscious decision on what to do that's in her best interest? Also, who white knights fights between girls anyways? What Shoujo has the man saving the women from other women? That's like a paradox where it's cool to save the woman but uncool to "fight" a woman, my brain hurts.

It's why I like Preacher (the Garth Ennis book). The feminism in it is very dated and 90s-ish, but the main female protagonist hates being treated like a weak fragile object by the main character. In fact, they only get together at the end when he learns not to treat her in a patronizing "girls can't hold guns" manner.

Have we really come so far with feminism that we can call 90's era feminism "dated?"
The problem with feminism is the "ism," that there's some unified code that all women subscribe to over how they want to be treated and perceived. Some women want to be taken at their abilities value while others are happy being sexually objectified, some want men to intervene some don't, some want anyone to intervene some don't, it's laughable there's even an ism for this shit. The same is true for men of course, you have some men who'd love it if the world stepped in every time there was a problem, maybe they want to be a stay at home dad while the woman works, pretending there's some ism that accurately represents what either sex wants is ludicrous.

I figure it's always best to do what you think is right and treat everyone equally and fairly at the start, people kinda make it clear how they want to be treated early on anyways. Of course the other aim for feminist groups is still necessary that equal opportunities amongst male dominated everything, good luck on that girls, seriously. Right now my work place is a sausage fest, get to work harder on that equal-ism!

I actually think her voice works for the character in SoreMachi. It's the perfect idiot/whiny voice. No idea what she was like in Soul Eater though... but I take it that she wasn't as good in that one. :lol

I think it fits here, I've forgotten everything about Soul Eater besides some guns turning into girls or some shit, and an axe thingy.

People want to obsess like the Japanese obsess?

Creepy.

 

[Geneijin]

(Post about harems, etc., if I remember correctly?) Why did you delete that? Have you posted a longer version I've missed somewhere in the thread, or did you forget about it... I was going to reply to that but didn't and then you deleted it.

I still have the response in a queue but things happened this weekend, so I still haven't gotten around to it although I have been lurking GAF.

I'll have it up in 2 days. Thanks for remembering.

 

[firehawk12]

But isn't that also White Knighting if he makes a conscious decision on what to do that's in her best interest? Also, who white knights fights between girls anyways? What Shoujo has the man saving the women from other women? That's like a paradox where it's cool to save the woman but uncool to "fight" a woman, my brain hurts.

Hey, the very first episode of Ouran has Tamaki white knight Haruhi by humiliating another girl!

Have we really come so far with feminism that we can call 90's era feminism "dated?"
The problem with feminism is the "ism," that there's some unified code that all women subscribe to over how they want to be treated and perceived. Some women want to be taken at their abilities value while others are happy being sexually objectified, some want men to intervene some don't, some want anyone to intervene some don't, it's laughable there's even an ism for this shit. The same is true for men of course, you have some men who'd love it if the world stepped in every time there was a problem, maybe they want to be a stay at home dad while the woman works, pretending there's some ism that accurately represents what either sex wants is ludicrous.

I figure it's always best to do what you think is right and treat everyone equally and fairly at the start, people kinda make it clear how they want to be treated early on anyways. Of course the other aim for feminist groups is still necessary that equal opportunities amongst male dominated everything, good luck on that girls, seriously. Right now my work place is a sausage fest, get to work harder on that equal-ism!

If you equate white knighting to socialism, I'll have to have words with you!
Although, I guess I'm a hypocrite - I think it's perfectly fine for allied soldiers to go into Afghanistan and force the men to allow girls to go to school. Neo-colonialism is a form of white knighting! But that's way off topic, surely. :lol

And yeah, 90s feminism is so dead. I don't know about you, but Trinity and Lara Croft feel like relics of a long distant past - especially since Sarah Palin passes for a feminist figure these days.

 

[Jex]

Ah there's nothing wrong with the maid's voice, you people are crazy.

I'm only really damaged by extreme high pitch.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Hey, the very first episode of Ouran has Tamaki white knight Haruhi by humiliating another girl!

Because in classic anime style he's too stupid to realize she's a girl and it wasn't even that humiliating anyways. And that wasn't really that "manly" when it happened now was it?

If you equate white knighting to socialism, I'll have to have words with you!
Although, I guess I'm a hypocrite - I think it's perfectly fine for allied soldiers to go into Afghanistan and force the men to allow girls to go to school. Neo-colonialism is a form of white knighting! But that's way off topic, surely. :lol

The thing about this is forcing men to allow women to go to school is one thing, forcing women who actually believe they shouldn't go to school because of whatever reason to go because we want them to go is another. Feminism is silly because you can't ever meet the concept, even in feminism you have to tell some women what they want is wrong or stupid. Forcing girls to go to school or be allowed to work is actually against what some women want so you're chaining up one set of women to free another. It's hilariously tragic.

Of course I maintain that since you can never please everyone the least you can do is give everyone the option.

And yeah, 90s feminism is so dead. I don't know about you, but Trinity and Lara Croft feel like relics of a long distant past - especially since Sarah Palin passes for a feminist figure these days.

Sarah Palin is also a feminist, a woman should be allowed to choose to constrain herself as much as she's allowed to expand her horizons, another example of why I think feminism is silly. She's as much a victim as perpetrator but she's as example.

I still don't see the difference between 90s feminism and the 00s feminism.

 

[Branduil]

Ah there's nothing wrong with the maid's voice, you people are crazy.

I'm only really damaged by extreme high pitch.

Personally I would rather listen to her read the phonebook than finish Rahxephon.

But I guess "it can't be helped."

 

[Hitokage]

Sarah Palin is also a feminist, a woman should be allowed to choose to constrain herself as much as she's allowed to expand her horizons, another example of why I think feminism is silly. She's as much a victim as perpetrator but she's as example.

I still don't see the difference between 90s feminism and the 00s feminism.

Sarah Palin is the Microsoft-style "embrace, extend, and exterminate" of feminism. Just because she claims she's carrying its banner doesn't mean she's actually moving forward with it.

 

[Jex]

Also, what category do Juli and Faina go into?

I'm not exactly sure what they're doing, but at least they're taking it seriously!

 

[DY_nasty]

YYH, ep 57

"Winner by total gross-out is Kurama!" :lol

This show is awesome. I don't think anyone is meant to watch this much TV in such a short span though...

 

[mAcOdIn]

Sarah Palin is the Microsoft-style "embrace, extend, and exterminate" of feminism. Just because she claims she's carrying its banner doesn't mean she's actually moving forward with it.

Because what everyone thinks moving forward is is different, although I would agree that she's more harm than good, there's nothing wrong with embracing certain gender roles but there's a problem when you think because you yourself have done that that others should do the same. I mean she's more of an example of what's wrong with feminism when other "feminists" say she's wrong for doing things the way she wants to do things, I find that funny but overall she herself is the more harmful one.

 

[Dresden]

YYH, ep 57

"Winner by total gross-out is Kurama!" :lol

This show is awesome. I don't think anyone is meant to watch this much TV in such a short span though...

Being an anime fan is all about kicking reason to the curb and taking the obsession to an unhealthy level.

 

[firehawk12]

Because in classic anime style he's too stupid to realize she's a girl and it wasn't even that humiliating anyways. And that wasn't really that "manly" when it happened now was it?

It's "classy manly". :lol

I still don't see the difference between 90s feminism and the 00s feminism.

In our fiction? Lara Croft is pretty gauche nowadays.

Personally I would rather listen to her read the phonebook than finish Rahxephon.

But I guess "it can't be helped."

Hah! She's the whinier, higher pitched version of Kobayashi, confirmed.

 

[Hitokage]

Because what everyone thinks moving forward is is different, although I would agree that she's more harm than good, there's nothing wrong with embracing certain gender roles but there's a problem when you think because you yourself have done that that others should do the same. I mean she's more of an example of what's wrong with feminism when other "feminists" say she's wrong for doing things the way she wants to do things, I find that funny.

Well, a fundamentally important distinction to make is that feminism, as much as feminism can be treated as a single entity, isn't about not constraining oneself but rather the reasons one is constrained. Being in the kitchen because you love it versus being in the kitchen because it's your duty as a person born with a uterus.

 

[Dresden]

Hah! She's the whinier, higher pitched version of Kobayashi, confirmed.

Kobayashi sounds hot even when she's using her high pitched voice.

Omigawa doing anything other than normal speech is ear-bleeding sometimes.

 

[mAcOdIn]

It's "classy manly". :lol

Is this another way of saying fabulous?

In our fiction? Lara Croft is pretty gauche nowadays.

So who's current then?


Damnit, can a girl get in and argue, I'd rather get a feminine perspective as well than all guys.


Anyways, Sora no Otoshiwhatever episode 3, ugh, this show, why does this show exist?

Well, a fundamentally important distinction to make is that feminism, as much as feminism can be treated as a single entity, isn't about not constraining oneself but rather the reasons one is constrained. Being in the kitchen because you love it versus being in the kitchen because it's your duty as a person born with a uterus.

That's very true, I hope I didn't come off sounding as if I meant or believed anything otherwise.

Truthfully, if we're still on Sarah Palin all I heard from her was during the election, after that she got on my real life "ignore" list so I don't know what she's said further from those few weeks. I may be arguing for(not really for but, ugh, whatever) a totally different person than the person you know. I just know that she was so stupid then that I never, ever needed to hear another thing she said.

 

[Jex]

Giant Robo Episode 1 - This sort of feels like it is to Gigantor (or Tetsujin 28 for all y'all sticklers out there) what Re: Cutie Honey was to Cutie Honey, in that it's an intentional throwback to a bygone era infused with the budget of a modern OVA and an infectious amount of energy and enthusiasm from the staff. (This comparison to Re: Cutie Honey ends there, though, I assure you. Unless there are tons of boobs later on.) Other than some fairly corny bits when it tries to get super dramatic and serious and kind of fails, this seems like it's just a good, solid show even aside from any nostalgia I have leftover re: Gigantor.

Whatever, how am I supposed to know that Tetsujin 28 was created by the same dude and that actually Giant Robo is a really old manga! I don't fact check these things, you know.

Well you'd have known if you'd read the index in my thread!

This is kind of how I saw it, but I guess I'm slightly more positive on it because I'm only one episode in and no one's had enough time to be completely retarded yet - but it certainly has that way-too-serious vibe going for it already. FRANKEN VON VOGLER IS ALIVE?!?!?! Well of course he is, idiots, he has "franken" in his name for crying out loud.

Don't listen to crazy old Macodin, I think the show plays all it's cards very well and by the end it comes together in an emotionally satisfying manner.

That's right, I say all dissenters should be thrown to the sharks.

Ahh why is the last page WALLS OF TEXT.

 

[Branduil]

That's right, I say all dissenters should be thrown to the sharks.

Or alligators.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Don't listen to crazy old Macodin, I think the show plays all it's cards very well and by the end it comes together in an emotionally satisfying manner.

Ok, hold on, the end is like the worst thing about it, I think you called it an "Empire Strikes Back" as it feels like the middle of something larger and that's true but that means the ending is pretty weak.

That's right, I say all dissenters should be thrown to the sharks.

Psh, can i choose, I'd be alright with getting thrown to hundreds of Bala Sharks.

 

[firehawk12]

Well, a fundamentally important distinction to make is that feminism, as much as feminism can be treated as a single entity, isn't about not constraining oneself but rather the reasons one is constrained. Being in the kitchen because you love it versus being in the kitchen because it's your duty as a person born with a uterus.

Yeah, I wouldn't say that Nigella whatshername isn't having a fulfilling career because she specializes in cooking.

Kobayashi sounds hot even when she's using her high pitched voice.

Omigawa doing anything other than normal speech is ear-bleeding sometimes.

Well, I can't really argue with you. :lol

Is this another way of saying fabulous?

Sure!

So who's current then?

Because I brought up Preacher, I like to say Y: The Last Man is the more contemporary version of the feminism that Preacher tried to... preach.

Anyways, Sora no Otoshiwhatever episode 3, ugh, this show, why does this show exist?

Unabashed fanservice without a sense of shame. I still appreciate the honesty.

 

[Dresden]

Ok, hold on, the end is like the worst thing about it, I think you called it an "Empire Strikes Back" as it feels like the middle of something larger and that's true but that means the ending is pretty weak.

Psh, can i choose, I'd be alright with getting thrown to hundreds of Bala Sharks.

Are you calling Giant Robo bad?

Well, I can't really argue with you. :lol

I'm too obstinate about these things. We'll just agree on Kobayashi.

 

[Jex]

Ok, hold on, the end is like the worst thing about it, I think you called it an "Empire Strikes Back" as it feels like the middle of something larger and that's true but that means the ending is pretty weak.

By emotional I meant the resolved character arcs, not the resolved larger story arcs.

Ergo Proxy - I see some people are complaining about it, but I don't agree at all. I really liked Ergo Proxy and think it's a pretty good series. It's not perfect, but it is pretty good. The story is interesting; sad, yes, but interesting, and the ending isn't nearly as depressing as it could have been, which I liked a lot after all the tragedy along the way (

Spoiler

don't get attached to pretty much any of the minor characters...

). The story does get pretty confusing later on, but many things at least are explained, and you can figure the rest out. Great art design too. So yeah, good characters, good story, good art... I guess I could complain about the main guy being a little annoying, and not all of the episodes being equal in quality, but overall it's definitely a fairly good post-apocalyptic series.

I'm just adding this to the list.

 

[mAcOdIn]

Are you calling Giant Robo bad?

Where did you see that, I just think the ending was crap, I think it's above average although I'm still mulling it over, it's different.

By emotional I meant the resolved character arcs, not the resolved story arcs.

I'd disagree with that although since we have one still watching I won't go into specifics.

Because I brought up Preacher, I like to say Y: The Last Man is the more contemporary version of the feminism that Preacher tried to... preach.

I don't know what that is.

 

[A Black Falcon]

I still have the response in a queue but things happened this weekend, so I still haven't gotten around to it although I have been lurking GAF.

I'll have it up in 2 days. Thanks for remembering.

Allright, if you haven't forgotten.


Tantei Opera Milky Holmes 02 just came out today. I liked the first episode, and I like this episode too. For anyone not watching, this series definitely isn't just a shoujo show for kids, they're definitely trying for seinen appeal as well (maybe even mostly? I don't know how to exactly tell the difference, really, I think). Short version: Episode 2 was great, maybe even better than the first episode. More people should watch this series.

So, the episode starts with more of what we saw a lot of in the first episode, going to awesome lengths to show how far our heroines have fallen. At the beginning of the episode they're literally arguing over crumbs of food which fell onto the floor... And then they get only a baked potato for breakfast, while everyone else gets bread and stew... they're given a rotten desk with mushrooms growing on the bottom of it... so they collect all the mushrooms, get out a stove, use a piece of wood to try to start a fire in the charcoal, only to get denied just before they're done cooking, and more (I won't spoil the end of this scene, it got weirder).

Then things start to improve though. They find a cat and it makes them happy, but then there's a mystery, and Cordelia takes the blame and the other three have to figure out the truth (yes, they do some actual minor detective work!). Cordelia's lines to the other three in prison are probably the funniest of the entire episode. She's so serious, I was laughing through the whole scene... :lol ("I'll protect our flower field! ... Forget about me! If everyone else is happy, that's enough for me. Just remember me once in a while, okay?"

Spoiler

The "flower field" is a place Cordelia imagines where the four of them are happy again, instead of yelling at eachother and arguing as they have been doing. For why she thought she had to take the blame, watch the show.

And then later she's drawing pictures on the wall comparing herself to Joan of Arc... yeah, this show's good stuff.

Oh, and when one of the badguys said "And I know you go along with anything anybody tells you to do!", and Hercule (the purple-haired shy one) nodded in reponse... :lol

And then in the end the villainess-in-disguise-as-student-council-president lets them keep the cat, even though her plan was about making them sad and angry at eachother so they'd break up, not happier like the cat was making them. Yeah, that was a little weird, but maybe she's getting into her role a little too much?

So yeah, I definitely like this show. Good stuff.

I'm just adding this to the list.

Do you mean that you don't agree? Sorry, I liked the show.

 

[Branduil]

By emotional I meant the resolved character arcs, not the resolved larger story arcs.

I'm just adding this to the list.

What list is that?

 

[mAcOdIn]

What list is that?

His list of rebuttals for when he's called out for owning the Elfen Lied boxset.

 

[Lafiel]

What list is that?

I assume a list of

1. People whose opinions i don't trust
2. People whose opinions i do trust.

I assume 1.:lol

 

[InfiniteNine]

His list of rebuttals for when he's called out for owning the Elfen Lied boxset.

Nope, we won't let him live it down!

 

[Geneijin]

Milky Holmes 02 just came out today. I liked the first episode, and I like this episode too. For anyone not watching, this series definitely isn't just a shoujo show for kids, they're definitely trying for seinen appeal as well (maybe even mostly? I don't know how to exactly tell the difference, really, I think). Short version: Episode 2 was great, maybe even better than the first episode. More people should watch this series.

I think it's Seinen. Someone mentioned it on the CR forums that it's a Seinen manga in Comp Ace.

Man, the reports are conflicting. I'm not even sure anymore.

 

[flawfuls]

Milky Holmes 02 just came out today. I liked the first episode, and I like this episode too. For anyone not watching, this series definitely isn't just a shoujo show for kids, they're definitely trying for seinen appeal as well (maybe even mostly? I don't know how to exactly tell the difference, really, I think).

It's not shoujo and doesn't resemble anything shoujo at all. I mean this show panders to the creepy otaku audience as much as possible I'm not sure what part of it made you think it was shoujo.

I think it's Seinen. Someone mentioned it on the CR forums that it's a Seinen manga in Comp Ace.

Actually Comp Ace is a shounen magazine so it's shounen.