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Fall 2010 Anime Thread: Reboots, Retreads, and Rediscovery
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Smiles and Cries
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maybe at some point we will have great epic anime again
I am so bored this season
I am so bored this season
Yeah, most of the characters are pretty bland IMO.icarus-daedelus said:
It was most certainly not me who said that most people warm up to it by episode 5, I'm still on the fence regarding whether I even liked the show a month later. Things really start moving around then and considering how dull most of the characters are that's a good thing for the show. Some of the twists I found predictable and others not so much, you'll see, it(the story) gets really stupid, I mean really, really stupid. Things happen that shouldn't, secrets are revealed that had no reason being secret, secrets will be kept and never explained for no good reason and yet all the characters get flashier and flashier and the action gets better and better and for some reason I couldn't stop. Most of these characters have the worst motivations for their actions than any I've ever seen and they make some of the stupidest decisions I've ever seen but damn if they don't make it look awesome when they do it.icarus-daedelus said:
That said, the Giant Robo crying part was kinda cheesy but also kinda not, he is a central character in the show and while it's never truly explained he has to have some kind of AI of his own to operate as he does, he has to. He's a soulless robot sure, but he's not mindless constantly being operated by a hidden joystick Daisuke's hiding in his shorts(with a blazer on top WTF?? Who dressed this kid?), oh, and I guess that's also a clever penis joke, hahahaha, I slay myself.
The soundtrack and artwork is generally good throughout the whole thing.icarus-daedelus said:
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Anyways, like I was saying, I can't decide if it worked or not. Considering how stupid the plot and all of the characters are I should flat out say it's stupid, I want to also further abide by my earlier statements over how the story is the most important part of a work but I can't deny that everything else, as Jexhius would say "the direction," was so good that I finished it because I wanted to, not out of some morbid curiosity to see just how bad it'd all turn out like I'm currently doing with Samurai Girls. I can say that despite watching each episode I was completely let down at the end, it did not give me the ending I wanted, but, I still watched it all.
Wait, other people don't read our giant posts?A Black Falcon said:
Also, you better reply to my giant post on 326 by the end of next week!
Hellsing321
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It's already been decided that Zac Effron will play light whenever someone decides to do the death note movie.Lafiel said:
A Black Falcon
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firehawk12 said:
Oh. I guess I wouldn't really know, but I didn't think Evangelion's ending was THAT common in the genre... and doesn't it also got a little farther with the "why me?" stuff than most of them? But yeah, some version of that isn't exactly uncommon, that is true. But still, how many go as far with it as Shinji does?
Lafiel said:
I agree, the Speed Racer movie was pretty good. Silly stuff, but as such it fit with the old anime perfectly...
Jexhius said:
I liked so much about Noir, from the great music to the good story and characters to the action scenes... just loved it beginning to end. It is a bit depressing obviously, but that's its thing, and sometimes I have liked shows like that -- Vampire Princess Miyu is an old favorite of mine for example, both the OVA and the TV series. That's more horror of course, but in terms of "the episodes often end up sad" there are similarities. Noir's semi-sequels Madlax and El Cazador de la Bruja aren't as good as Noir itself, though, in story, characters, or music (I really like the music Bee Train used in Noir and .hack//Sign). Between the two of them though, El Cazador is definitely superior, that is also a pretty good show. Madlax I don't like quite as much.
Avenger also has some similarities to these shows, even if it's not quite the same, and I liked that show as well. It did have some issues, if I remember right (the plot...), but still, overall I liked it.
mAcOdIn said:
While I wish they would, unfortunately I would guess that a lot of people don't. But sure it'd be nice, it's not like nobody else is allowed to reply to anything in them.
Right, yeah, I need to do that...
Jex
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Violinist of Hameln 25: Sizer apparently couldn't see the inevitable consequences like everyone else could! That was a silly move all round.
Guitar being hoisted on his petard was pretty sweet thought. It seems demons are rather tricky to kill.
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Think about superhero comics. It might be alright for children to read silly throwaway stories about good guys and bad guys but there was a feeling from some creators that these stories needed to change. Modern storytelling involving superheroes and villains, a.k.a Watchmen, The Dark Knight and even The Incredibles rely on 'realist principles'. Their heroes are imperfect and flawed, the villains are complex and well thought out not just 'bad guys', the stories tend not to revolve around things that are impossible or absurd and they are set in 'the real world'.
This show is obviously aiming to capture a 'classic' (in this case) 60's feel. To that end, it's a tale of good guys trying to stop bad guys taking over the world. It doesn't try to update itself in the same way as those western works do: instead it revels in it's old-fashioned designs, plot and character.
Yet, Yasuhiro Imagawa has updated those classic stories in his own way. Imagawa really, really loves villains. In G Gundam and Shin Mazinger the villains are far more complicated, unpredictable and interesting than any of the heroes. The same holds true for Giant Robo where the main heroes are all stereotypes (done well, of course) but the villains get a much broader range of characteristics.
Guitar being hoisted on his petard was pretty sweet thought. It seems demons are rather tricky to kill.
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This really makes me want to dig AWO's comments on the series. So very harsh.A Black Falcon said:
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Someone knows what's up.mAcOdIn said:
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I should probably explain my earlier comments somewhat better. Giant Robo does has enough characters for about five different shows (and many of them drop in during the second half of the series) but you're not supposed to be particularly attached to every single one.icarus-daedelus said:
Think about superhero comics. It might be alright for children to read silly throwaway stories about good guys and bad guys but there was a feeling from some creators that these stories needed to change. Modern storytelling involving superheroes and villains, a.k.a Watchmen, The Dark Knight and even The Incredibles rely on 'realist principles'. Their heroes are imperfect and flawed, the villains are complex and well thought out not just 'bad guys', the stories tend not to revolve around things that are impossible or absurd and they are set in 'the real world'.
This show is obviously aiming to capture a 'classic' (in this case) 60's feel. To that end, it's a tale of good guys trying to stop bad guys taking over the world. It doesn't try to update itself in the same way as those western works do: instead it revels in it's old-fashioned designs, plot and character.
Yet, Yasuhiro Imagawa has updated those classic stories in his own way. Imagawa really, really loves villains. In G Gundam and Shin Mazinger the villains are far more complicated, unpredictable and interesting than any of the heroes. The same holds true for Giant Robo where the main heroes are all stereotypes (done well, of course) but the villains get a much broader range of characteristics.
Jex
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For those interested in the fate of Satoshi Kon's unfinished film, Dream Machine:
"A madhouse animator came to our uni a few weeks ago. She said that Kon's storyboards are so precise, they can definitely finish. She mentioned that Kon made tapes with thoughts and instructions on, the animators have been listening to them whilst working."
Interesting. We'll see with time.
Wait, why didn't any Madhouse animators come to my University? Apart from the fact that my University has nothing to do with animation.
"A madhouse animator came to our uni a few weeks ago. She said that Kon's storyboards are so precise, they can definitely finish. She mentioned that Kon made tapes with thoughts and instructions on, the animators have been listening to them whilst working."
Interesting. We'll see with time.
Wait, why didn't any Madhouse animators come to my University? Apart from the fact that my University has nothing to do with animation.
A Black Falcon
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Solune said:
Yeah, I have no idea if the show was popular or not, but I thought it was pretty good. There definitely were some memorable episodes... Miyu can be horrible sometimes, letting people die just to draw out the week's Shinma, or putting people into a (literal) dream for the rest of their life and walking away somehow thinking that that's the kind and right thing to do (Fate in Nanoha A's would disagree...). And then the Shinma are worse. "I'm going to turn people into statues for fun, because then they'll be beautiful forever!" ... And no, in this show of course there's no way of turning them back.
I must admit though, even considering the nature of the show I didn't expect that twist at the end at all. Great series.
Jexihus said:
AWO?
Jex
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The Anime World Order Podcast. I don't really have many trusted/interesting sources for anime reviews and discussion but they rank pretty highly (even if Gerald is crazy).A Black Falcon said:
I finally found their views on Noir.
Gerald: I'd rather hammer a nail through the wall with my forehead then watch that again.
Daryl: I'd rather watch an abortion.
Clarissa: I don't feel quite as strongly as my co-hosts.
All: Episode 1 was great, but the show went downhill after that e.g. poor choreography and fight scenes that made no sense (e.g. people standing around waiting to get shot).
Hellsing321
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Yep typical Bee Train. :lol The music was nice though.Jexhius said:
http://www.madhouse.co.jp/news/news_2010_11.html
Madhouse has officially announced that The Dream Machine will resume production after taking a hiatus with Kon's death. The project will be completed by the team working on it, and they have announced the revised staff credits for the remainder of the production:
Concept/Script/Director: Satoshi Kon
Substitute Director/Animation Director: Yoshimi Itazu
Assistant Animation Director: Toshiyuki Inoue
Music: Susumu Hirasawa
Producer: Masao Maruyama
Production: Madhouse
There is no release date for the movie announced at this time.
Madhouse has officially announced that The Dream Machine will resume production after taking a hiatus with Kon's death. The project will be completed by the team working on it, and they have announced the revised staff credits for the remainder of the production:
Concept/Script/Director: Satoshi Kon
Substitute Director/Animation Director: Yoshimi Itazu
Assistant Animation Director: Toshiyuki Inoue
Music: Susumu Hirasawa
Producer: Masao Maruyama
Production: Madhouse
There is no release date for the movie announced at this time.
Bee Train's only genuinely decent shows are Popolocrois and Medabots.
On an unrelated note, Akira Amemiya is very fucking predictable.
http://www.gainax.co.jp/img/455_psg.jpg
:lol
On an unrelated note, Akira Amemiya is very fucking predictable.
http://www.gainax.co.jp/img/455_psg.jpg
:lol
Sgt.Pepper
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7Th said:
Errr... would you mind not posting screencaps that could potentially spoil certain jokes when the episode is not even available on Crunchyroll yet? If you must, at least post it in the series thread instead of on the general anime thread. I really wish I didn't see that and now I'm kinda upset. :/
Crash Station
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7Th said:
Excuse my ignorance, but why is this predictable?
Sgt.Pepper
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My bad, just saw a steam at 2ch.duckroll said:
Sgt.Pepper
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Everything by Go Nagai is weird shit, but awesome. I like most of his works.
Crash Station
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Watched the first ep of GaoGaiGar. It's okay. Gonna have to watch more to make an opinion.
Jex
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Devilman
That was the most immoral and insane birth of a superhero that I've seen in a while.
So, let me get this straight. Spoilers ahead, but this plot is too ridiculous not to talk about. Not that there's much plot, so I suggest you read it anyway:
Heroic behaviour:
That was the most immoral and insane birth of a superhero that I've seen in a while.
So, let me get this straight. Spoilers ahead, but this plot is too ridiculous not to talk about. Not that there's much plot, so I suggest you read it anyway:
So Ryou takes Akira to his mansion where his father was researching ways to battle demons.
They go into the mansions basement, which turns out to be a giant disco. What.
Then Ryou, one of the heroes, reveals that they need to merge with demons to fight demons. He has invited a bunch of people down to the disco who are in the process of getting drunk (and are presumably also taking drugs).
The presence of all these 'irrational' people will lure the demons to feed on these humans and turn them into demons. They are to be sacrificed. Ryou and Akira too, but they know what will happen and aim to "conquer" the demons that will try and possess them.
Akira doesn't really comment on Ryou luring a bunch of innocent people down here to be sacrifieced. Things get worse when Ryou smashes a bottle and starts stabbing brutally glassing women and men to "attract more demons!". He brutally disfigures and wounds a number of people before he's taken out by the crows. Once again, he's supposed to be one of the heroic characters who are saving the world.
They go into the mansions basement, which turns out to be a giant disco. What.
Then Ryou, one of the heroes, reveals that they need to merge with demons to fight demons. He has invited a bunch of people down to the disco who are in the process of getting drunk (and are presumably also taking drugs).
The presence of all these 'irrational' people will lure the demons to feed on these humans and turn them into demons. They are to be sacrificed. Ryou and Akira too, but they know what will happen and aim to "conquer" the demons that will try and possess them.
Akira doesn't really comment on Ryou luring a bunch of innocent people down here to be sacrifieced. Things get worse when Ryou smashes a bottle and starts stabbing brutally glassing women and men to "attract more demons!". He brutally disfigures and wounds a number of people before he's taken out by the crows. Once again, he's supposed to be one of the heroic characters who are saving the world.
Heroic behaviour:
Hellsing321
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Both episodes of Panty and Stocking were awesome today. :lol
jman2050 said:
Looks like it.
Nanoha A's 12
Poor Alisa-chan! I think I liked her outbursts the best.
The final battle was nice, although everyone introducing herself/himself before their attacks was soooo cheesy.
And that Graham dude, he gave me the impression of being the real bad dude since the first episode! Although he wasn't completely the bad dude, but he was a bad dude enough as far as I'm concerned.
rainking187
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Branduil said:
Oh is that what the title of the show translates to? Overall this was a really bad episode for Kon. Maybe it was just me but I thought that Poko dog thing had a lot more lines than usual in the first part of the episode.
Infinite Justice
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Panty and Stocking
cool episodes
Will Brief ever step the fuck up?
cool episodes
Will Brief ever step the fuck up?
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