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Fall games without PS4 Pro enhancements
- Thread starter Karish
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yeah, that's not a confirmation or indication of a Pro mode coming in 2017.
Don't type "according to Square Enix" when it's really just assumptions you've made.
This seems highly unlikely considering FFXV comes out after the Pro launches (though Sony did give themselves and their partners some wiggle room by saying "virtually" all games that launch post-Pro release would have support).
The existence of a Pro version at launch is the only thing that might push me to get FFXV on console instead of waiting for the inevitable PC port.
EDIT:
This is how misinformation spreads. Why not present the initial statement as a rumor rather than fact if you don't know for sure? All you had to say was "I think the Pro update will come at a much later date in 2017."
Dredd97
Member
PES 2017
Papacheeks
Banned
So is it coming later or will it be there at launch on November 29?
Absolutely fantastic to read. Except for that part about retina's "literally" exploding.
XV is the first FF game I've been excited for in a long while, and the technical shortcomings based on the demos and videos we've seen were a real bummer. Great to hear the Pro version is in such good shape.
NoSkillz187
Member
So you completely assumed all of this then?
is there any tweet quote? I'll translate it.
It sounds like it's pretty much mandatory when the official FAQ posted by the PS Blog says
"Following PS4 Pros launch on November 10 in North America, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update."
Papacheeks
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Irishonion
Member
That damned word 'virtually' makes everything iffy. Understandable though. Not every dev can do it probably.
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Yeah, it looks like they may make exceptions for not requiring it on day 1/built in for devs having trouble (like smaller indie devs), the "virtually all" part is specifically talking about day 1 enhancements.
Eh, I wouldn't expect Pac-Man Championship III and the like to have a Pro mode.
The only thing that page says about Pro mode is about how tabata "once stated" that they will look into a ps4 pro mode. Nothing indicating they were having difficulty with it, or it's a far ways off/not being done in conjunction or it's coming in 2017.
The "it's coming in 2017 because the slim is bundled with FFXV and not Pro" is an assumption from you.
Again, just for the future, just be more careful. Don't write thing like "according to X" when "X" hasn't said anything on the matter, and you're saying something based off rumors mixed with assumptions of your own.
Papacheeks
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So all the bugs and issue they currently have with the build of the game you don't think would get completed first?
The Pro mode is just adjusting the visual fidelity of the game. They already are showcasing a Pro build of the game. It doesn't take many people to handle that mode. Yeah I don't think the bugs and issues will be done first and the Pro build handled later, all things seem to indicate they're working on the pro build alongside it at this point. Seeing as the architecture is basically the same, anything that improves in the standard build of the game will only help/improve the Pro build, it's not like making changes to iron out the bugs/issues is gonna mess up the work they've done for the Pro.
That FFXV rumor "story" likes to put words into people's mouths without actually quoting them. Yeah, I'm sure that's legit, especially when the same site runs this garbage.
If you're going to make statements of fact and then backtrack and say you're just repeating rumors, it might help to provide a source with even the slightest hint of credibility, ffs.
If you're going to make statements of fact and then backtrack and say you're just repeating rumors, it might help to provide a source with even the slightest hint of credibility, ffs.
The point isn't what anyone thinks, it's the fact that you relayed a rumor/conjecture as factual information from an official source.
You may very well be proven right in the end, but that doesn't make reporting rumor as fact the right thing to do. Your post says that SquareEnix had explicitly stated that Pro support would be coming in 2017, but they didn't.
Not meaning to dog pile on you, just trying to illustrate the problem with your post.
StrongBlackVine
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So you stated a completely unsubstantiated rumor as fact. Thanks...
Pop On Arrival
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so what does pro enhanced mean exactly besides playing in 4k?
Can we block that page :/?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
That depends on the developer. Could be mean better framerate, better AA or just about any other visual of performance improvement to a game, There is no set guideline as to what developers have to do other than a minimum of 1080p and framerate equal or better than the OG PS4. For the example The Witness devs are talking about their Pro enhancements being 1440p and increased SMAA while Rise of the Tomb Raider has 3 different Pro modes.
Papacheeks
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Where did I state as fact? Said it was a rumor to take with salt? Hope I am right as the dig piling is showing the worst I gaf. I used common sense in knowing we have very little info on Pro mode outside of some random guy at TGS. All promos and recent bundle is for base PS4. I know it will have a pro preset but we don't know 100℅ if it's there at launch. Especially with how rough the game is currently.
Anything, its not just limited to checkerboard rendering or native 4K. You can use the power for better graphics,better framerates at any resolution a minimum of 1080p.
Enhanced just means whatever developers want to do to take advantage of the extra power of the unit.
Pop On Arrival
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cool. Just hyavent read anything about framerate upgrades and i was starting to get worried. Must have just missed em.
Right here:
And no, you didn't use common sense. You stated a fact that turned out to be bullshit, then backtracked with a rumor from some site that claims to have pictures of aliens on the moon. You then asked questions about development priorities that ignore the reality of the situation. You were caught talking out of your ass and you need to learn to take the L and move on.
Steep and South Park are the only two that come to mind (that aren't confirmed).
Papacheeks
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I took that square quote from the bullshit site dude. I just didn't Highlight as I'm on my phone and added the source once on my PC. How does that link have anything to do with what I said? I know it doesn't take much it's been shown in another thread. I was talking about how there very little talk or footage so far of Pro mode and seeing the bad state currently the overall game build on OG PS4 is they have to straighten that out and send out certs before sending the certs for pro mode which could cause it to not be 100℅ at launch. That's all I was saying and said yo take it with salt as it's just a bs rumor.
Your post history in recent thread is almost hyper bolic in the horizon TGS thread. No need to seriously pile on me.
Just don't expect too many FPS upgrades, since the CPU is the same one as in the OG PS4, the games will have the same CPU bottlenecks in regards to FPS.
That was Elder Scrolls Online.
Which one? This?
Because that's a really weak quote. That may have been an answer to a question that was asked before the official unveil, when Sony had acknowledged the existence of what was then called Neo, but hadn't announced any support for it. We don't even know how the question was phrased or any other part of the answer.
And this is you know you're full of shit. What does this have to do with the fact that you tried to fill the thread with nonsense and can't recognize a shit source when you see one?
Papacheeks
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Which was why I said rumore and to take with salt as it was flaky. Also seeing as fps is what needs lots of attention in that game and pro according to previous poster may not yield higher frame rate it makes the video from the forum suspicious as someone at tgs was saying game was running on Pro there at like 40 something fps. Which would not make sense unless it was running on a PC or something?
I admitted it was a shit source? But you coming at me with hostility like ur a fucking mod was uncalled for.
One more and then I have to be done with this.
1) You stated this info as a fact
2) When called on it you said it's just a rumor and provided a bullshit source
3) You then appealed to common sense while ignoring the realities of the resources involved.
Admitting that your source is poor doesn't excuse the fact that you posted a poor source. I'm not a mod but I'm free to point out nonsense. I haven't asked you to leave or mentioned anything about a ban, so stop trying to act like a victim.
Papacheeks
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Where did I explain as fact? My first post is my fault for not saying rumor or quoting. But literally I was talking about that bullshit link. Just didn't add it till second post. Which was on my PC. Also there's been no talk outside of chatter at tgs and 2 seconds of video from a sizzle reel. I admitted in the wrong but then get jumped on for talking out of context. My mistake. But I didn't in this whole conversation sound hostile or like an ass yo others who corrected or at least added. You seriously came off hostile.
That is indeed where the issue comes from. It's pretty simple. As I said earlier, all you had to do was say "I think that..." or "I've read rumors that..." instead of "according to SquareEnix," which implies official confirmation, and thus factual accuracy.
Hope this explains the issue with your post. In the grand scheme of things, it's not a big deal, and not worth derailing the thread further.
Papacheeks
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I'll change it, I was on my phone and should have quoted from the shit source. Thanks for at least being civil. I'll see myself out as to not disrupt any further the conversation.
Iztok Mravlja
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I don't get this, why is it weird that a very popular game that even got some GOTY awards would get this upgrade?
This should be applauded, as it's obviously a gesture of good will seeing how unlikely this could result in a sales boost for the game.
2blackcats
Member
Looked good in the footage too. I'm looking forward to jumping back in.
I reckon there might be a "Enhanced for Pro" section on the store front if you're rocking a PSPRO too. Any older patched games will be looking like a bargain compared to all the new releases in there.
NoSkillz187
Member
Mordor was one of those games everyone on GAF loved when it first came out, but now it seems GAF has turned on it, lol. I still think the game is great and would like to check it out again when the update drops.
I wouldn't expect any Bethesda game to support it after that mess with mods. At least any game released before the Pro comes out (if it really is mandatory after the fact).
BigTnaples
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Imp the Dimp
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Looking forward to FFXV. Does anybody know what improvements the pro version will have?
Cave Johnson
Member
60fps for Uncharted 4 please.
You'll get the intended frame-rate, better AA and higher resolution and be happy about it.