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[Joco]

Not really. I was surprised how small Skyrim was.

Ha. I remember preordering Skyrim at GameStop, one guy working there swore Skyrim was going to ship with eight discs in the case because the file size was going to be so huge. Got a good chuckle out of that one.

 

[EvB]

Just uninstalled and reinstalled my UK preorder. It's 25.7gb here.

It may have some reserved game space when the game first boots

 

[Broank]

I remember it kinda blew my mind Skyrim was only like 3 GB on 360. Seems like the soundtrack alone would be more.

 

[Social]

28gb + 10gb of updates

 

[Derp]

wat? it's coming out this year?

 

[Agent_Carnage]

Nice. Im glad they know how to compress stuff.

 

[Renekton]

Seems like way too small for current-gen asset sizes for open-world, unless it compresses insanely well.

 

[adamsapple]

Seems like way too small for current-gen asset sizes for open-world, unless it compresses insanely well.

Come on man....

Skyrim was only 3.8GB, size doesn't matter (in RPG's).

 

[EvB]

Seems like way too small for current-gen asset sizes for open-world, unless it compresses insanely well.

It's all the same repeated textures and geometry across the world , same as oblivion and Skyrim.
there be no mega texturing here

 

[Hubble]

Spoilers in thread title.

 

[Langdon Alger]

That's a disturbingly small file size.

 

[Pestilence11]

My overstuffed 500 gig will cry.

 

[Jonnax]

Come on man....

Skyrim was only 3.8GB, size doesn't matter (in RPG's).

It does. Because they repeated a lot of dialogue which reeked of laziness.

 

[Turin Turambar]

That's a disturbingly small file size.

It's four times bigger than Skyrim (and that's comparing it with the bigger pc version).

 

[On Demand]

Skyrim was under 4GB. Seems FO4 will be over compressed too.

 

[adamsapple]

It does. Because they repeated a lot of dialogue which reeked of laziness.

Yeah and this is almsot 10x the disc space of Skyrim. Textures don't take up a lot of space. Audio and video does.

 

[Pillville]

wat? it's coming out this year?

44 days and counting.

 

[jesu]

It does. Because they repeated a lot of dialogue which reeked of laziness.

I know rite.
They told the sound guy to put more dialogue in, and he was like nah, can't be arsed let's just leave it.

 

[Jonnax]

I know rite.
They told the sound guy to put more dialogue in, and he was like nah, can't be arsed let's just leave it.

Or maybe they didn't want to pay for extra dialogue?

 

[SirNinja]

That's a disturbingly small file size.

That's what everyone said about Skyrim, especially the 360 version (3.7 GB). Bethesda know how to compress their stuff.

 

[Kezen]

That's what everyone said about Skyrim, especially the 360 version (3.7 GB). Bethesda know how to compress their stuff.

The PC version was 9gb though.

 

[Auctopus]

Last-gen textures. Anyone claiming that it's because Bethesda know how to optimise is crazy.

 

[jesu]

Or maybe they didn't want to pay for extra dialogue?

That's not laziness though.

 

[Talyn]

Seems like a good game for my future ssd. Does anyone know if theres a way to have one or two steam games on a ssd while the steam installation is on a hdd?

Yes, goto Settings/Downloads, click Steam Library Folders and add a new folder on the drive you want to use. Then when you install a game you can pick which folder you want to use.

 

[Unison]

I wonder how much of that is voicework and music...

Obviously it would be silly to worry about the game size. Past Bethesda games have been huge despite smaller file sizes than some of their contemporaries.


While we're talking Fallout 4, have there been any soundtrack reveals yet?

 

[BossDarkseid]

Yes, goto Settings/Downloads, click Steam Library Folders and add a new folder on the drive you want to use. Then when you install a game you can pick which folder you want to use.

Nice! Thank you!

I think I'll definetley be using that.

 

[jesu]

I wonder how much of that is voicework and music...

Obviously it would be silly to worry about the game size. Past Bethesda games have been huge despite smaller file sizes than some of their contemporaries.


While we're talking Fallout 4, have there been any soundtrack reveals yet?

Not licensed songs but there was this article on the original score

http://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/fallout-4-behind-the-score-with-inon-zur/2015/09/22/30

 

[Jonnax]

That's not laziness though.

They were unwilling to invest the money into writing an recording dialogue. I'm not putting the blame on Dave the sound guy. But I don't see why as a consumer I have to say 'oh their managers were cost cutting to the detriment of the game' rather than how I consider the the lack of effort in a part of the game to be lazy.

 

[gossi]

Bethesda tweeted that Fallout 4 contains 3 times as many lines of recorded dialogue than Skyrim (and Skyrim was very talky).

 

[jesu]

They were unwilling to invest the money into writing an recording dialogue. I'm not putting the blame on Dave the sound guy. But I don't see why as a consumer I have to say 'oh their managers were cost cutting to the detriment of the game' rather than how I consider the the lack of effort in a part of the game to be lazy.

Eh whatever, you said they were lazy, then you said it was cost cutting.
I think we are agreed it wasn't laziness.

 

[Jonnax]

Eh whatever, you said they were lazy, then you said it was cost cutting.
I think we are agreed it wasn't laziness.

I'd argue that cost cutting is a form of laziness. "I don't want to spend this money to do a proper job because most people won't tell the difference"

Maybe the term has become quite loaded in the world of games. But I don't see why it wouldn't apply.

 

[owasog]

Let's look at the numbers on PC: Skyrim has 1.5GB of voice files. Triple that for male and female PC and you've got 4.5GB.
The vanilla textures are 1.4GB. The HD textures are 3.3GB but don't replace everything. Let's assume the HD texturepack quadruples the filesize, and you get 6GB.

So that only adds 8GB. Fallout 4 must be doing something more than that. 2K textures? More textures? Cutscenes?

 

[Creaking]

Pretty slim for a big RPG like this.

It's not about the size, it's about how it uses what it's got.

 

[Ashtar]

I remember when people were complaining about the file size of dying light, that was amusing.
Frankly I don't see the big hubbub but GAF Gon GAF

 

[Alcoholikaust]

Good considering Skyrim file size was pretty tiny this is not surprising.

 

[nkarafo]

Skyrim was 3GB. I still cant believe it

Most of the space taken by games is textures/visual assets. Skyrim reuses lots of textures. When i think about this game, the image of the same gray, bricked and rocky textures come to mind.

GTA5 takes up 60GB (PC version). That's because they tried to make every area different, with a huge variety of textures and assets.

 

[samn]

I guess this is promising, it points to more texture and dialogue variety.

Any word on whether the gameplay/shooter mechanics have been improved?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

The PC version was 9gb though.

It was 6gb though.

 

[Crossing Eden]

I'd argue that cost cutting is a form of laziness. "I don't want to spend this money to do a proper job because most people won't tell the difference"

Maybe the term has become quite loaded in the world of games. But I don't see why it wouldn't apply.

Skyrim has 60K lines of dialogue, 60K lines of dialogue spread among a world full of npcs. To imply that there were "too lazy" to put in more is pretty ridiculous.

 

[Bluth54]

It was 6gb though.

Well it was 6 GB with an extra 3GB of free HD textures as an optional download so you're both technically right.

 

[gossi]

Skyrim has 60K lines of dialogue, 60K lines of dialogue spread among a world full of npcs. To imply that there were "too lazy" to put in more is pretty ridiculous.

Yeah. Skyrim also had 70 voice actors, which is ten times than of the prior Elder Scrolls game. Just because you hear a line about sweetrolls a few times does not mean they were lazy. The VO recording took months, and cost a bucket or 12.

 

[bomblord1]

Bethesda's workflow allows for that they use premade chunks for interior layouts and just copy paste them togethor in unique layouts. They could make 20 interiors that are only the size of a single unique one.

 

[Oberon]

Before reading some of the replies here, I thought that would be bad news. I guess that comes from buying mostly physical games.

 

[CyberPunked]

44 days and counting.

Holy shit

 

[Crossing Eden]

Yeah. Skyrim also had 70 voice actors, which is ten times than of the prior Elder Scrolls game. Just because you hear a line about sweetrolls a few times does not mean they were lazy. The VO recording took months, and cost a bucket or 12.

Right? I mean it's like some people forget how little devs had to work in comparison to the new consoles.

 

[CyberPunked]

So that only adds 8GB. Fallout 4 must be doing something more than that. 2K textures? More textures? Cutscenes?

 

[Gouty]

They compress the shit out of their voice audio. Or at least they did on the 360. I really hope they're not so aggresive on that front now that we have the space for better audio. On decent speakers its pretty distracting, sounds like the voice actors read their lines over a phone.

 

[Andrefpvs]

Nice,should leave plenty of space for an on-disc GOTY edition.

 

[Sora the Cat]

I'd argue that cost cutting is a form of laziness. "I don't want to spend this money to do a proper job because most people won't tell the difference"

Maybe the term has become quite loaded in the world of games. But I don't see why it wouldn't apply.

I'd argue that it isn't. Re-using assets (In this case, sound files) it's also a form of optimization and you need an experienced dev to know how to do it properly.
Also, even fallout 4 has a limited budget and time, so you have to know how to balance those things out.

 

[paragonpro]

It does. Because they repeated a lot of dialogue which reeked of laziness.

Seriously? There was hardly anything lazy about skyrim given the hardware restrictions if faced on fhd 360 and ps3, well except maybe the ps3 port.