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Fallout: New Vegas is Gold and PC System Requirements
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Guys, stop defending that piece of trash KOTOR2. Lots of people agree with that Amazon review. In fact, it is the highest-rated review of the game on Amazon. Lousy game has nothing on the spectacular KOTOR1 by RPG gods Bioware (the original Bioware, not the wannabe shovelware Bioware Jr aka lolbsidian; you know, the ones who make original games instead of hand-me-downs), featuring memorable characters such as Carth Onasi and Bastila. Carth has a deep and profound past, which you slowly unfold throughout the game. Why does he act the way he does? It is a mystery which you unravel as you play through, which makes the entire experience very compelling. And don't get me started on Bastila! Shut up and kiss me, fool! This is how you write interesting strong female characters. I am a proud member of the Bioware forum-sponsored Bastila Lovers Club. We still take applications everyday!
What does KOTOR2 have? Some old ugly hag LMAO. She looks like a piece of trash too, which is what KOTOR2 is. Something something about the Force. Nag nag nag nag. If I wanted to read walls of text I'd read a book or play PS:T or something. At least PS:T was made by a competent lead designer.
What does KOTOR2 have? Some old ugly hag LMAO. She looks like a piece of trash too, which is what KOTOR2 is. Something something about the Force. Nag nag nag nag. If I wanted to read walls of text I'd read a book or play PS:T or something. At least PS:T was made by a competent lead designer.
One thing an unfinished bug-ridden RPG with a heart of gold certainly has going for it is that it can get much better with time if the PC community cares about it. My impression of KotOR2 was strongly negative at release, and much more positive when I replayed it recently with the patches and restoration mod.
Discotheque
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Okay that's cool. I can't wait for the doubters to shit their pants when they realize how much better New Vegas is than Fallout 3. The writing sounds stellar already and the gameplay system will stay the same to keep the fanboys complaints to a minimum.
TheExecutive
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Anyway, looking forward to the OT.
Stallion Free
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Kotor 2 was better than 1.
@Llyranor: You started with some kind of satirical point about the value of Amazon reviews, but the rest of your post is incoherent rambling. How can you dismiss a highly-rated Amazon review when you spend hours reading forum posts that people put little to no effort into? The highest-rated Amazon review is basically just a thoughtful forum post that lots (in this case, just over 200) of other customers agree with.
TheExecutive
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Novella said:
Not in the world of logic... if you were presenting an argument on why we should not be excited about New Vegas you failed miserably.
Novella said:
Neither did Black Isle. Of course they never erred on the bad side (nor do I think Obsidian has yet done so), but there were problems all up in every one of their games. It matters little. It didn't matter for Fallout 1/2/3 so I don't see what it will matter for New Vegas.
water_wendi
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Never before was there a better written character.Llyranor said:
Dark Stalkers
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I'm a Zaalbar man myself.
TheExecutive
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Novella said:
Meh... not worth it. I am heading to bed.
I firmly expect New Vegas to be better than Fallout 3, personally, even though I had very mixed feelings about AP. They started out with a complete functional game engine and core gameplay mechanics. That's also, mind you, the extent of what Bethesda excels at, the core sandbox. What Bethesda sucks at is writing, meaningful choices, and finding a good way to handle character progression. We know Obsidian can handle good writing and meaningful choices, and they had Oscuro on the team to hopefully rip apart Fallout 3's systems and rebuild them, like he did magnificently with OOO for Oblivion. All it'll take for me is Hardcore Mode delivering, really, even if all the rest isn't up to expectations.
And besides, we're talking about the leads of the original Van Buren Fallout 3 here, given what amounts to a second chance at making it. That's something special.
And besides, we're talking about the leads of the original Van Buren Fallout 3 here, given what amounts to a second chance at making it. That's something special.
Stallion Free
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Novella, I think the issue at hand here is that you are shitting on games you have never actually played. Reading reviews doesn't count.
water_wendi
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Just dont play it. Its likely going to suck. Play something that looks awesome like Quantum Theory or whatever.Novella said:
The Shadow
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The safest thing we can say about New Vegas is that if you liked/loved Fallout 3, you'll probably like it too. I really doubt it'll be a huge departure either way.
water_wendi
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You're totally right. All of Obsidians games are horrible and New Vegas will be horrible.Novella said:
And you said Quantum Theory looked awesome. If you and your rock-solid investigative skills deem something to be good or bad it must be true. Who can argue with an Amazon review?
The Shadow
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C-Jo said:
What was wrong with the PS3 version? I bought it for PC but I was somewhat tempted to get New Vegas for the PS3 this time around
water_wendi
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LOLBSIDIAN!Wallach said:
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Marvie_3 said:
Ditto. It had a ton of problems but it was so fucking fun just wandering around the wasteland.
Stallion Free
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You look kind of retarded hating on games you have never played. How hard is that to understand? I mean you actually posted some guys Amazon review. It comes off as fucking desperate. It's one thing to not be excited for New Vegas, it's a whole other thing to rip apart a companies back catalog without having so much as touched it.Novella said:
MrBelmontvedere
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it's ok this is the most action this thread has had for a while
The Shadow
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Novella said:
Because you're pov is just as unrealistically negative. Obsidian isn't a bad studio and going by reviews alone doesn't tell you the whole story. Personally, I loved KotOR 2 so the whole point of looking at past game reviews to make a call on an upcoming game is moot for me. Ditto (apparently) for a lot of other people.
Also, what Evibore said for the others goes for you too. Grow a thicker skin.
C-Jo said:
It's not my only option but given the nature of the game, I kinda wanted to play it on my HDTV instead.
Guess I can just get it for PC. No biggie.
Re: Obsidian's pedigree, what it comes down to is that I don't regret playing any of their games.
KotOR 2
Neverwinter Nights 2
Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir
Alpha Protocol
None of these are a Super Mario Galaxy experience by any means. I can levy harsh criticisms towards all of them (though I'd probably have to be at gunpoint to do it for Mask of the Betrayer), but each of them have been valuable gaming experiences and each of them have also unequivocally pushed the genre forward.
KotOR 2
Neverwinter Nights 2
Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir
Alpha Protocol
None of these are a Super Mario Galaxy experience by any means. I can levy harsh criticisms towards all of them (though I'd probably have to be at gunpoint to do it for Mask of the Betrayer), but each of them have been valuable gaming experiences and each of them have also unequivocally pushed the genre forward.
Novella said:
Probably because we don't feel your position has as much merit as you think it does.
There are plenty of problems with Obsidian's past games. Most of us don't feel like those problems made them bad games. In fact a lot of those problems were fixed post-release, even if it was done by the community.
In this particular case, it's an even more unique situation. It's a lot of the original creators of the Fallout series getting to come back to it and fill in some of the gaps that Bethesda was unable to fill with Fallout 3. I'm of the mind that Bethesda got almost everything right (much like the older games did). Luckily for us, the things that Bethesda didn't nail - those are the things the folks at Obsidian excel at, maybe more than anyone in the entire industry.
Its not a clear-cut case of "well, I dropped the egg and it cracked, obviously if I drop another one the outcome is obvious". Were it so simple this industry would not be in such a convoluted state.
water_wendi
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Youve got to be kidding me. There hasnt been one thread for an upcoming Obsidian game where its been a total circle jerk :lol All the Fallout New Vegas threads have had more than their fair share of "LOOKS LIKE SHIT!" and "I HEARD ALPHA PROTOCOL WAS SHIT!" posts. The only reason that this thread had more optimism about the game is that its nearing release and things look great.Novella said:
You come in here spouting a bunch of bullshit about games youve never played and you want to pout when you make yourself look like a fool?
I still don't get the prejudice against the Amazon review. A guy wrote something thoughtful about the game and 200 people agreed with it. That's worth something.Stallion Free said:
And, more importantly, it wasn't even as if the parts of the review I quoted were arguable points. The game isn't finished. Massive amounts of content was cut. Parts of the game are incoherent. These aren't opinions.