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[R0nn]

funny thing, but the psp actually sends control inputs to itself over wi-fi. so lag is built into the hardware, and your issues totally aren't imaginary. damn you sony.

:lol

 

[Drinky Crow]

how did sony fuck up Japan? It's selling well, there, especially at double the cost of the DS. Not DS well, but plenty good. This isn't the 360 we're talking about. The PSP by any standard is a success.

 

[Pimpbaa]

how did sony fuck up Japan? It's selling well, there, especially at double the cost of the DS. Not DS well, but plenty good. This isn't the 360 we're talking about. The PSP by any standard is a success.

Here on GAF, anything other than 1st place is bombing.

 

[MrSardonic]

how did sony fuck up Japan?

I'd say their software sales have been more problematic than their fairly decent hardware sales. IIRC, one of the sales threads claimed the DS sold more software in January 2006 than PSP did over all of 2004-2005 (was this really correct?)

 

[dyls]

how did sony fuck up Japan? It's selling well, there, especially at double the cost of the DS. Not DS well, but plenty good. This isn't the 360 we're talking about. The PSP by any standard is a success.

I thought it was selling for considerably less than double the cost of the DS (especially the used DSs .) Or are they only selling value packs over there now?

 

[A Link to the Past]

how did sony fuck up Japan? It's selling well, there, especially at double the cost of the DS. Not DS well, but plenty good. This isn't the 360 we're talking about. The PSP by any standard is a success.

IIRC, Drinky GP, the PSP isn't that much more expensive than the DS.

 

[kenta]

How much and do you have a Paypal account?

I've got PayPal, I'll bet you the MSRP of your book

Eh, what he says is true and Sony know it. They need better games in Japan. They need games suited to a handheld. The PSP does have potential to be doing much better.

The next few months is interesting because the PSP lineup is considerable.

Spoiler

back down before Kobun rapes you of your money

What I referenced was extremely subjective, and honestly it sounded like he was blinded by fanboyism and grasping at straws trying to find stuff to complain about. I don't disagree that the games could be better (and are getting better), but I felt his subjectivity was out of place in an editorial like that.

 

[NG_Kris]

Ah, yes, Tim. He has an opinion.

Thanks for pointing out the blips that got through in Tim's story, folks. They've been fixed. Those responsible have been sacked.

 

[Musashi Wins!]

I felt his subjectivity was out of place in an editorial

oh come now.

 

[FallenOne666]

Give me new Landstalker info, Famitsu!

 

[Kobun Heat]

how did sony fuck up Japan? It's selling well, there, especially at double the cost of the DS. Not DS well, but plenty good. This isn't the 360 we're talking about. The PSP by any standard is a success.

You're using capital letters and punctuation, which means you want to talk serious? I don't know. I'll give you the b. of the d.

a), and maybe this is a cheapo "gotcha" point but it should be said anyway: the PSP launched at less than 5,000 yen more expensive than the DS. The difference in price, there, was almost negligible right from launch.

b), Sony totally miscalibrated what Japan was going to want in terms of a new portable system. The aim behind the PSP was "take over," not "sell considerably fewer units than the DS."

c), as I have been saying since about 2004 or so, the math doesn't work. Making a full-on PSP game that uses the platform's potential costs more money than they can actually hope to recoup, with software sales being at the level they are. But much like Levar Burton I feel the need to say: don't just take my word for it. Look at what's happening on this system in Japan. Ports, remakes, and severely slimmed-down projects.

This isn't to say that I am not jazzed for Maverick Hunter X or Exit, just that it should be crystal-clear at this point that developers have had to scale way, way back on budgets to make PSP development a good idea.

d), in Japan there has historically never been a good ol'fashioned brawl like we got with SNES v. Genesis or PSP v. DS. One system stomps the shit out of everything else and developers just move right over to it, nearly exclusively. You are either number one or you are number fucked.

Again, insofar as "getting bass-taped by Nintendo" was never part of the plan, saying that Sony has fucked up Japan really shouldn't be controversial at this point. They are in a much better position to rectify shit than Microsoft is, of course, but this doesn't change the fact that shit still needs to be rectified.

 

[kaching]

But the fact that Famitsu just painted such a rosy picture of the assbeating the PSP is taking in Japan smells more like "sponsored editorial" than "constructive discussion."

Have you got access to the original article? Because i wouldn't want to infer too much about the tone of the original Famitsu article based on Tim's scatterbrained account of it.

 

[kenta]

oh come now.

Oh come now yourself! The rest of the article was very informative and I enjoyed reading it, but it just seemed like he had a personal agenda that shone through a little too brightly in some spots. Maybe I just used the wrong word.

 

[Kobun Heat]

Have you got access to the original article? Because i wouldn't want to infer too much about the tone of the original Famitsu article based on Tim's scatterbrained account of it.

True. And I don't.

 

[ziran]

ziran, I'd like to thank you for summarizing Next-Gen's coverage of this. They're 3 page article about it was horrible - I can't believe I read through that expecting to glean any other info...you summarize what they reported from Famitsu perfectly.

thanks.

Well, actually, excuse me -- the PSP has had some good games. But the fact that Famitsu just painted such a rosy picture of the assbeating the PSP is taking in Japan smells more like "sponsored editorial" than "constructive discussion."

"Constructive discussion" on PSP-in-Japan has to start with an analysis of how bad Sony fucked up and how they can fix it, not delusions of success based off a highly suspect Famitsu puff piece.

you misunderstood. i was hoping this thread would be 'a constructive discussion' and i think it has been, not the article, which imo had too much filler.

...the PSP launched at less than 5,000 yen more expensive than the DS. The difference in price, there, was almost negligible right from launch.

the interesting thing is ds lite is retailing for more than the current ds, 16,800 yen, only 3,000 yen (~$25) cheaper than psp.

 

[Sho Nuff]

Actually, last I heard Tim works for Sony.

Would that be a conflict of interest? :/

 

[Mike Works]

People would have to consider what he writes interesting for the point not to be moot in the first place.

 

[Mook1e]

God damn, Sony must have paid Famitsu Shinjuku's weight in gold.

Exactly what I was thinking

 

[DCharlie]

Actually, last I heard Tim works for Sony.

As per Largeprimenumbers, i believe(1) he works for Ken Kutaragi directly in some capacity, and Ken personally helped him find his flat, i believe(1)

No one at sony seems to know him but that might just be because he`s really busy? *shrug*

Would that be a conflict of interest? :/

he proclaimed that he wouldn`t stop writting or posting stuff that may get him fired if he worked for sony over at LPN.

to be fair, i actually thought this piece wasn`t bad. But i`m not sure how Ken would feel. Maybe he`s spank him over the desk on Monday(2)?

 

[Juice]

You're using capital letters and punctuation, which means you want to talk serious? I don't know. I'll give you the b. of the d.

a), and maybe this is a cheapo "gotcha" point but it should be said anyway: the PSP launched at less than 5,000 yen more expensive than the DS. The difference in price, there, was almost negligible right from launch.

b), Sony totally miscalibrated what Japan was going to want in terms of a new portable system. The aim behind the PSP was "take over," not "sell considerably fewer units than the DS."

c), as I have been saying since about 2004 or so, the math doesn't work. Making a full-on PSP game that uses the platform's potential costs more money than they can actually hope to recoup, with software sales being at the level they are. But much like Levar Burton I feel the need to say: don't just take my word for it. Look at what's happening on this system in Japan. Ports, remakes, and severely slimmed-down projects.

This isn't to say that I am not jazzed for Maverick Hunter X or Exit, just that it should be crystal-clear at this point that developers have had to scale way, way back on budgets to make PSP development a good idea.

d), in Japan there has historically never been a good ol'fashioned brawl like we got with SNES v. Genesis or PSP v. DS. One system stomps the shit out of everything else and developers just move right over to it, nearly exclusively. You are either number one or you are number fucked.

Again, insofar as "getting bass-taped by Nintendo" was never part of the plan, saying that Sony has fucked up Japan really shouldn't be controversial at this point. They are in a much better position to rectify shit than Microsoft is, of course, but this doesn't change the fact that shit still needs to be rectified.

Ding! Everything I've ever said about PSP's position in Japan.