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Abraham Lincoln sold poison milk to schoolchildren.

 

[The Librarian]

So you think that the belief that blacks and whites are so incompatible that they must live separately is commendable? Rather than invite the freedmen to become full participants in the body politic, and indeed the nation, the attitude was to just give up and send them off to some foreign continent.

That is, in effect, segregationism taken to its full conclusion - separatism.

Even if his private opinions were all about full equality for all, he couldn't come out and just say it because of political expediency. Remember how Obama and half the Republican Party were against gay marriage not that long ago? It's because until recently, it would have been political suicide.

Lincoln was a great man who achieved so much under incredibly dire circumstances. Heck, my wife and I were *this* close to naming our son after him, but let's not pretend that his opinions, at least his public ones, weren't a product of his times. His racist, racist times.

Obama was never against gay marriage. And half the Republican party is now for gay marriage? News to me.

 

[The Boat]

Not really famous but the guy who invented wonder woman and the polygraph made his mistress and wife wear copper bracelets.

WTF I didn't know this! It all makes sense now!

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

Obama was never against gay marriage. And half the Republican party is now for gay marriage? News to me.

Up until the sunset of his first term, he supported Civil Unions, not full equality. The Republican Party, at least the ones out of office, want the issue gone, because it's an election loser. Hence the letter to the Supreme Court.

 

[The Librarian]

Up until the sunset of his first term, he supported Civil Unions, not full equality. The Republican Party, at least the ones out of office, want the issue gone, because it's an election loser. Hence the letter to the Supreme Court.

Obama supported gay marriage as a state senator. Not talking about it doesn't mean he didn't support it. It was very clear from his otherwise outstanding record on gay rights that he supported marriage equality.

Also, it doesn't matter if Republicans out of office want the issue gone, unless they're extremely prominent. That's not the same as "half of the Republican party is now for gay marriage." That letter doesn't mean anything if there aren't any current officeholders. The Republican party is still very much against gay marriage.

 

[Currygan]

Richard the Lionheart

Supposed English hero, who couldn't/wouldn't speak English, and spent about 6 months of his entire 10 year reign in England.

His reputation in his home provinces, and his behaviour was so vile, that he caused a revolt in Gascony in 1183. Roger of Hoveden, in Gesta Henrici II Benedicti Abbatis records rapes and murders by Richard during this. He and his friends favourite evening's entertainment was going out on the town, getting drunk, and raping any pretty woman they desired, especially in front of husbands and fathers who they beat or killed if they objected.

He was also a total money-grabbing fame-hungry soldier, sold pardons, dissolved treaties (agreed to free King William I of Scotland from his oath of subservience to Richard in exchange for 10,000 marks) sold off State lands and rights, auctioned off Government posts to the highest bidder who then milked them like there was no tomorrow, causing endemic corruption and widespread suffering to fund his military campaigns.

Steven Runciman's final verdict of Richard I: "he was a bad son, a bad husband, and a bad king, but a gallant and splendid soldier." ("History of the Crusades" Vol. III) He had good qualities, everyone does, but not many kind ones.

How the hell he became known as the epitome of Kingship, and Englishness god alone knows.

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and plus, he single handedly nearly bankrupted the Kingdom because he was dumb enough to get caught and John had to pay a massive ransom. As for his reputation being that big and John's being the complete opposite I would say that the fact the most prominent chroniclers at that time, Matthew Paris and Roger Wendower were monks is quite telling, considering Richard's attitude towards the church (and John being quite ambiguous at that)

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

Obama supported gay marriage as a state senator. Not talking about it doesn't mean he didn't support it. It was very clear from his otherwise outstanding record on gay rights that he supported marriage equality.

Also, it doesn't matter if Republicans out of office want the issue gone, unless they're extremely prominent. That's not the same as "half of the Republican party is now for gay marriage." That letter doesn't mean anything if there aren't any current officeholders. The Republican party is still very much against gay marriage.

His platform as a presidential candidate was not for full equality but for civil unions. End of story. Politicians have to hold opinions as candidates that they don't personally believe to get elected and make decisions while in office that go against their ideology in order to get things done.

It was the same in Lincoln's day and will continue to be so until democracy is eventually replaced by robotocracy.

 

[Octavian]

So what man doesn't have a dark side?

 

[The Librarian]

His platform as a presidential candidate was not for full equality but for civil unions. End of story. Politicians have to hold opinions as candidates that they don't personally believe to get elected and make decisions while in office that go against their ideology in order to get things done.

It was the same in Lincoln's day and will continue to be so until democracy is eventually replaced by robotocracy.

Sorry, it's not end of story. He's been for gay marriage the entire time, and he wasn't doing anything while in office that went against that idea (in fact, he stopped defending DOMA in court). It's not the same as Lincoln, as he didn't hold that slavery should be abolished before he was president, but was pushed into coming to that conclusion.

 

[gutter_trash]

Obama was never against gay marriage. And half the Republican party is now for gay marriage? News to me.

this actually untrue. in 2008, Obama was a opposed to gay marriage for electoral reasons.
He changed his tune with the times for 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K9dS9wl7U

 

[tino]

Leonardo da Vinci was almost certainly gay and was accused of sodomy but it's likely that since he was so close to the Medici that they pulled the strings and got him acquitted.

No, everybody was gay in the Renaissance. It was a popular "thing". So was the Ming Dynasty.

 

[EagleBurnn]

He's been for gay marriage the entire time.

lol...that's just not true. He mentioned multiple times in his '08 campaign on his "definition" of marriage. It was obviously a hidden anti-gay marraige ideal. Whether he believed in that or not, that's what he was saying. He was "against" gay marriage to help him get elected.

 

[Kinyou]

Yeah. If you look back on the comic, it's clear he has a femdom truth fetish. "She's going to tie you up and make you tell the truth. She also looks like Bettie Paige." HMMMMMM

Wonder Woman gets tied up a lot as well

When this isn't bondage then I don't know what is.

 

[Bombadil]

So what man doesn't have a dark side?

The point of the thread is to give details of the dark sides.

We know everyone has them, man.

 

[vas_a_morir]

The point of the thread is to give details of the dark sides.

We know everyone has them, man.

Not me. I use Incognito Window mode.

 

[Bombadil]

Not me. I use Incognito Window mode.

They still record your data man.

Incognito was a lie.

 

[J.W.Crazy]

I hate this type of information =( It always seems like pretty much everyone I ever looked up to and admired was pretty much a dick aka human I guess.

Edit: holy shit the Nixon quote has me rolling what the hell is that? And is he somewhat implying that he has had homosexual feelings?

Doesn't seem like it, it just seems like he's all Some Of My Best Friends Are.

He was a weird paranoid and hated everyone, though, so it's not as if that group was being singled out. If the homosexual vote would keep him in office, he'd be all "I declare this Gay Day" on tv.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivVcfSBVSM

That quote really cuts out a lot of what he said. I'd love to know what he says during the 14 second bleep.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Chamillionaires shocking Michael Jordan story.
MJs a huge douchebag

Wow Michael Jordan is a piece of shit.

 

[MrHicks]

Wow Michael Jordan is a piece of shit.

thats pretty much what everyone says that ever met him
can't believe tons of idiots still buy his shoes making this POS even richer

 

[Ether_Snake]

Well in general if you take more of Nixon than his bastardy into account. He worked in creating the EPA, OSHA and CPSC, signed an extensive Clean Air Act expansion (and vetoed another), instituted wage and price controls, went to China, started SALT, got out of Vietnam through diplomacy, advocated for increased government health care involvement including a mandate, etc. The current Democratic Party expends a lot of words in defense or support of many of these programs/ideas.

My feeling is that a lot of the Nixon quotes were actually things Nixon said as jokes. In the sense that he was purposely exaggerating his thoughts, almost like a made up character. He was probably a funny guy, his sense of humor was probably just crass for some.

 

[MisterHero]

Wonder Woman gets tied up a lot as well

When this isn't bondage then I don't know what is.

If that's not weird enough for a kids comic, it can only get weirder!

Golden Age comics I'll tell you what

 

[Bombadil]

My feeling is that a lot of the Nixon quotes were actually things Nixon said as jokes. In the sense that he was purposely exaggerating his thoughts, almost like a made up character. He was probably a funny guy, his sense of humor was probably just crass for some.

I don't think Nixon ever exhibited any sense of humor. He doesn't even fall on the lowest end of the spectrum from least funny to most funny. He has no funny.

 

[jaxword]

Sorry, it's not end of story. He's been for gay marriage the entire time, and he wasn't doing anything while in office that went against that idea (in fact, he stopped defending DOMA in court). It's not the same as Lincoln, as he didn't hold that slavery should be abolished before he was president, but was pushed into coming to that conclusion.

I don't mind Obama, dude, but I have to side with the others here; he was definitely not in favor of gay marriage back in the day. He sided with it for obvious political reasons--not that this is different than ANY other politician.

 

[The Librarian]

I don't mind Obama, dude, but I have to side with the others here; he was definitely not in favor of gay marriage back in the day. He sided with it for obvious political reasons--not that this is different than ANY other politician.

He personally believed in gay marriage the entire time, he just didn't talk about it/switched his stance in the Senate and as president until the right moment.

This is like saying LBJ wasn't a Roosevelt New Dealer based on his time as Majority Leader.