Leafhopper
Banned
The only one actually justified in the OP is Morrigan.
I like Lulu but her outfit is just stupid.
Ah, I see.
I like Lulu but her outfit is just stupid.
Ah, I see.
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Fanservice Designs (That Are Justifiable)
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CannonFodder52
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If it's what above poster just mentioned, thats present within the game.
I haven't read much extended universe stuff, but I'm pretty sure most stuff is alluded to in the game.
I haven't read much extended universe stuff, but I'm pretty sure most stuff is alluded to in the game.
Acquiescence
Member
Ivy Valentine
Justifiable in the sense that, when engaged in battle with an opponent, it is imperative that you remain agile, especially when wielding a tricky and hard-to-manage weapon like the whip. So equiping the bare minimum armour that only covers the key areas of the body (i.e. easy targets) makes total sense.
Justifiable in the sense that, when engaged in battle with an opponent, it is imperative that you remain agile, especially when wielding a tricky and hard-to-manage weapon like the whip. So equiping the bare minimum armour that only covers the key areas of the body (i.e. easy targets) makes total sense.
captainpat
Member
It's not like justification are going to make the people who hate that stuff hate it less. Just do the skimpy and be honest about it.
crowphoenix
Banned
I mean, I like Boa. I have not kept up after the time skip, but I liked her before that.
However, the way you are describing her is really all about her looks. It just doesn't sound empowering. It seems like she is nothing more than a pretty face capable of manipulating men around her. That's a fairly well worn cliche.
KyanMehwulfe
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All of FF XIV A Realm Reborn?
It's basically aesthetic fan service toward nostalgia for the art of FF VI, XI, and XII.
It works because, 1. it's cool, 2. it's a MMO which means art/lore often revolves around gamer entertainment (e.g. progression or content) rather than creativity authenticty, 3. it was a failing MMO that arguably 'was not FF enough' and needed to boost fan excitement/interest.
I wouldn't necessarily want a new single player story FF designed that way as I appreciate art that tries to stand on its own new creativity vision, but for a MMO it was rather smart (and successful) game design.
It's basically aesthetic fan service toward nostalgia for the art of FF VI, XI, and XII.
It works because, 1. it's cool, 2. it's a MMO which means art/lore often revolves around gamer entertainment (e.g. progression or content) rather than creativity authenticty, 3. it was a failing MMO that arguably 'was not FF enough' and needed to boost fan excitement/interest.
I wouldn't necessarily want a new single player story FF designed that way as I appreciate art that tries to stand on its own new creativity vision, but for a MMO it was rather smart (and successful) game design.
Ivy Valentine
Justifiable in the sense that, when engaged in battle with an opponent, it is imperative that you remain agile, especially when wielding a tricky and hard-to-manage weapon like the whip. So equiping the bare minimum armour that only covers the key areas of the body (i.e. easy targets) makes total sense.
or she just likes to always wear her dominatrix outfit.
Nights Owl
Member
I basically fully agree. But in the same aspect I think everyone doing the same pose when you finish a fight is pretty goofy and repetitive. It'd be less of an issue if everyone in the game had 2 or 3 victory poses.
Ivy Valentine
Justifiable in the sense that, when engaged in battle with an opponent, it is imperative that you remain agile, especially when wielding a tricky and hard-to-manage weapon like the whip. So equiping the bare minimum armour that only covers the key areas of the body (i.e. easy targets) makes total sense.
Her "armor" does a poor job of that. If anything it makes her less agile. She really lacks breast support.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Kaine, totally. 2B and A2 and all the ladies of NieR Automata? What justification can be made for those?
Don't get me wrong, I love the designs and characters of Automata, but they're unjustifiably "fanservice-y"
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
"Examples of objectified women in gaming that you're able to overlook because you can rationalize what ultimately amounts to, fap material at the experience of not only the representation of women but the medium itself"
The thread. Good lord someone said Ivy's outfit would support help support movement.....
The thread. Good lord someone said Ivy's outfit would support help support movement.....
breasts+gravity, how do they work?
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
DarknessTear
Banned
captainpat
Member
Honestly could go either way. Hard to tell.
"avatar quote"
I mean, with cases like EVA it's an actual justification, It's part of her character and makes sense. It's fine if the artists wants to make a half naked characters ,as long as they're aware that's what they're doing and don't try to find a justifictation afterwards.
Don't try to sell me this character in fetish gear with half assed excuses.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The OP starts with Lulu who's wearing this throughout forests and quite literally fields with constant electricity strikes:
so you really never know.
The Yorha androids are partially propoganda-bots (morale among androids can be pretty shit) and the flashy designs are meant to make them striking and memorable. Also the story equates the thrill of combat with sexual pleasure at a few points.
You can make a strong argument for Kaine, but like 2B? Nah. That is what it is.
Come on that's stretching pretty far for an in universe justification.
Lord of Ostia
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Are you talking about Acquiesence's post? They are definitely being sarcastic.
Honestly i don't care about fanservice designs they look nice. But i prefer the designs in my profile pic or Marina/Midna/Zelda above those.
Not every women design needs a big ass or bust but if it fit's em why not? Women come in all sizes etc so do males.
Ofcourse there are some ridiculous fanservice designs but something like Samus or those fire emblem waifu's i don't mind tbh.
Quiet tho... Yeah that was a bit much. Eva Sniper Wolf, Even The Boss had fan service but they were legit good characters, in those cases i don't care tbh.
The OP's ones are fine.
I do find that there should be more male character fan service too tho to balance it out a bit.
Not every women design needs a big ass or bust but if it fit's em why not? Women come in all sizes etc so do males.
Ofcourse there are some ridiculous fanservice designs but something like Samus or those fire emblem waifu's i don't mind tbh.
Quiet tho... Yeah that was a bit much. Eva Sniper Wolf, Even The Boss had fan service but they were legit good characters, in those cases i don't care tbh.
The OP's ones are fine.
I do find that there should be more male character fan service too tho to balance it out a bit.
captainpat
Member
There's justification for her to be sexy but sexy doesn't have to mean half naked. There's tons of ways design a sexy female character without her boobs hanging out (I'm definitely a fan of this but I don't need any story justification).
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
If the thrill of combat is akin to sexual pleasure then why aren't they dressed to make combat as easy as possible over high heels that could interrupt it
? Because that justification is stupid
Because Nomura wanted to challenge his team iirc, in response they removed her from any cutscene that required physical activity lmfao.
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CannonFodder52
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Humanity is a big theme in the game, the robots and androids are trying to understand and/or recreate human behavior. Frequent visuals of the robots trying to recreate sexual acts, trying to understand love etc, it feels very uncanny and I could see the argument that the android's outfits feed into this as well.
If I recall Jackass is discussing fetishising or sexualising violence as well.
If I recall Jackass is discussing fetishising or sexualising violence as well.
Although, obviously the main reason for this is because Taro "likes girls"
Yea, this is a problem in the industry.
The explanation is that they were designed by Nomura
Is this an accurate depiction of your face the entire time you play these games???
Haha, accurate as hell.
Then my wife sneaks up on me while I'm playing boobymaidens II in the dark with headphones, and I make this face
Devil May Cry 3 Dante.
Came to post this.
Cause video games are a visual medium and character designs can and should reflect themes/atmosphere/feelings the creators are going for even if they don't make "practical" sense.
super-famicom
Member
How the hell can a belt dress be justified?
I would say this is maybe justified just because it represents actual things she at least had in metroid games.
I mean, these definitely feel more practical than the Zero Suit as far as outfits go. They're essentially just athletic outfits. They show more skin but I'd say they're less fanservice-y than the standard skintight look.
Except for the jet heels because those are so obviously, thoroughly dumb that they cancel out any practicality.
Astral/H3X
Member
My two main examples are Bayonetta and Zero Suit Samus, and both for totally different reasons.
Bayonetta is simple -- she fucking rocks that shit, doesn't give a fuck, and at absolutely no point does it seem like she's doing it for attention or for anyone other than her feeling like the badass she is.
Zero Suit Samus because it *completely* makes sense and is pretty much what she'd be wearing even if she was a male -- it's space underwear, and is simply the layer between her and the metal robot suit. It needs to be form fitting because otherwise it simply wouldn't work as what it is. People who have an issue with this design point to either Smash 4, ignoring the history of it and how it was depicted (where it's fanservice in terms of nostalgia, and not sexuality), or point to Other M, which yes was a bad game and we know it.
Case in point; ignoring that having gaps like that would do nothing to stop the metallic gaps in the robot armor would pinch the ever loving hell out of you.
Jet heels are there to justify ZSS being her own character, and as a subtle finger wag at Other M's ZSS design.
Bayonetta is simple -- she fucking rocks that shit, doesn't give a fuck, and at absolutely no point does it seem like she's doing it for attention or for anyone other than her feeling like the badass she is.
Zero Suit Samus because it *completely* makes sense and is pretty much what she'd be wearing even if she was a male -- it's space underwear, and is simply the layer between her and the metal robot suit. It needs to be form fitting because otherwise it simply wouldn't work as what it is. People who have an issue with this design point to either Smash 4, ignoring the history of it and how it was depicted (where it's fanservice in terms of nostalgia, and not sexuality), or point to Other M, which yes was a bad game and we know it.
Case in point; ignoring that having gaps like that would do nothing to stop the metallic gaps in the robot armor would pinch the ever loving hell out of you.
Jet heels are there to justify ZSS being her own character, and as a subtle finger wag at Other M's ZSS design.
Why would the practicality of any outfit in a jrpg need to be justified? If you're after realism then you're looking at the wrong genre. Unless you just think it looks ugly, in which case I agree
Lol, this was what I always replied as a kid when someone walked in on me playing Dead or Alive asking why the girls were so skimpily dressed. I knew very well that was complete BS, but I thought it was a funny way to shut everyone up.
I actually love me some sexy fanservice in games, but only if it is still tasteful and aesthetic. This for example I don't deem tasteful or aesthetic in any way:
Tavernacle12
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I would say this is maybe justified just because it represents actual things she at least had in metroid games.
Plus it's not usually her intention to wear it, she only has to fight in it when something's gone horribly wrong. It's basically her undershirt so she not naked in the suite. D.Va's outfit is somewhat similar in function.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Hence why we get so many bad characters designs for women since oftentimes they end up contradicting the themes, atmosphere, and feelings of the games they're in.
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
In Nier Automata every humanoid character is sexy in their unique ways.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Lol, this was what I always replied as a kid when someone walked in on me playing Dead or Alive asking why the girls were so skimpily dressed. I knew very well that was complete BS, but I thought it was a funny way to shut everyone up.
I actually love me some sexy fanservice in games, but only if it is still tasteful and aesthetic. This for example I don't deem tasteful or aestetic in any way:
Genuinely don't even know why the devs just didn't create a nude mod at that point wtf?
TGO
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Both are technically Witches and you think Bayonetta is a good example?
Lulu looks like a witch, the belts just go with Gothic look she has, it fits her character her dress is just overdesigned.
Bayonetta looks a Dominatrix/ Woman with glasses fetish design, and she is naked when she summons too because it's her hair? Bayonetta is probably the worse out the bunch, even Quiet is more justifiable
It's really about the over-the-top way she does it. Again, I draw comparisons to Bayonetta, who also operates in an exaggeratedly sexual manner that people attributed it as positive rather than cringey.
Just look at her signature pose:
where she arcs her head back to such a ridiculous degree as to show how she's always looking down at you.
It's so stupid it wraps itself back to being amazing.
Also she does have an extended (and tragic) backstory, but I was trying to make the OP minimal at length. The short version is that she was a child slave who was eventually freed, then rose up to create her own kingdom of amazons and eventually grow in power as one of the Warlords of the Sea.
Without a doubt, Hancock owns her sexuality, and has used it to amass a literal kingdom.
Lol, this was what I always replied as a kid when someone walked in on me playing Dead or Alive asking why the girls were so skimpily dressed. I knew very well that was complete BS, but I thought it was a funny way to shut everyone up.
I actually love me some sexy fanservice in games, but only if it is still tasteful and aesthetic. This for example I don't deem tasteful or aesthetic in any way:
I love these drive-by posts to say "we don't need a discussion" in the middle of a discussion.