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Fantasia: Music Evolved Demo on Xbox Live
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I had fun with the demo, but it didn't let you get far enough into the gameplay. Nevertheless, I think I saw enough to buy it.
Just waiting for my recent purchases to clear on Xbox Rewards so I move up to the next rebate tier.
This article has the list for the default game:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...al-soundtrack-for-fantasia-music-evolved.aspx
This one has the extras and mixes that are available for pre-ordering and buying the expansion packs:
http://www.rockbandaide.com/20482/f...-xbox-one-dlc-revealed-xbox-360-demo-out-now/
Just waiting for my recent purchases to clear on Xbox Rewards so I move up to the next rebate tier.
This article has the list for the default game:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/...al-soundtrack-for-fantasia-music-evolved.aspx
This one has the extras and mixes that are available for pre-ordering and buying the expansion packs:
http://www.rockbandaide.com/20482/f...-xbox-one-dlc-revealed-xbox-360-demo-out-now/
Tried the demo tonight and really liked it a lot! I didn't know there were sections that let you make your own melodies with movement, great stuff.
Definitely picking this up when it's available. Not sure I can justify getting the deluxe edition right now though with Sunset Overdrive coming out at the end of the month. Will those songs be available as DLC as well if I want them later?
Definitely picking this up when it's available. Not sure I can justify getting the deluxe edition right now though with Sunset Overdrive coming out at the end of the month. Will those songs be available as DLC as well if I want them later?
Hi, so the digital bundle comes with 3 DLC packs according to this page
http://www.rockbandaide.com/20482/f...-xbox-one-dlc-revealed-xbox-360-demo-out-now/
Do those packs come with the retail version too?
And how much would it cost to buy those extra 18 tracks that come with the deluxe digital bundle if bought separately?
Trying to figure out what to buy here.
http://www.rockbandaide.com/20482/f...-xbox-one-dlc-revealed-xbox-360-demo-out-now/
Do those packs come with the retail version too?
And how much would it cost to buy those extra 18 tracks that come with the deluxe digital bundle if bought separately?
Trying to figure out what to buy here.
I'm on the fence about buying the deluxe version. Fifteen songs for $30 seems a bit pricey. I've never really owned a music-based game like Guitar Hero or Dance Central. Is $2 a pop the going rate for song DLC?
Can't say for sure, but I think so. There are individual listings for them on the Xbox store. They're currently unavailable, though.
Can't say for sure, but I think so. There are individual listings for them on the Xbox store. They're currently unavailable, though.
Yeah, all of the content available in the digital deluxe will be available for download in the future (some of it at launch). Keep in mind you do get a discount with the digital deluxe bundle, since that also contains the "remix" packs that contain additional remix versions of songs already available as part of the core game. If you think you'll want all of the content, the deluxe will be the cheapest way to get it all at launch.
This is not the first time I've seen this comment, and I have to admit I don't quite understand it. Did the Fantasia films have any Disney film/TV music? Why is there an expectation of Disney music to be featured? Just because the company name is (a small) part of the title?
I know the game isn't available yet, but when it is, the box art isn't too mysterious about what kind of music is featured, so I can't imagine people will feel too misled:
What a bizarre statement. Why bother innovating with Kinect games when Dance Central exists? Really? This is exactly the kind of game the Kinect needs to help show it can be effective at something besides yet another dancing game.
I know the game isn't available yet, but when it is, the box art isn't too mysterious about what kind of music is featured, so I can't imagine people will feel too misled:
There is classical music in this game FYI. That Harmonix went for a diverse tracklist doesn't mean the classic Fantasia tracks aren't there, it's just that a game filled with classical music probably wouldn't be that exciting for most young people, especially since Fantasia: Music Evolved is already a pretty niche title.
The confusion is about you expecting to find Disney music in the game. There is no Disney music in the movies either.
The nature of the chosen music is a more valid reason to be confused, although it has already been stressed out that several classics from the 70s in the playlist are as old now as Nutcracker or Sorcerer's Apprentice were when the original movie released. Anyway it seems a big part of the playlist is still modern songs, making the game more focused on the "be a music conductor" idea than "listen to those great oldies", which are the two defining aspects of Fantasia.
The nature of the chosen music is a more valid reason to be confused, although it has already been stressed out that several classics from the 70s in the playlist are as old now as Nutcracker or Sorcerer's Apprentice were when the original movie released. Anyway it seems a big part of the playlist is still modern songs, making the game more focused on the "be a music conductor" idea than "listen to those great oldies", which are the two defining aspects of Fantasia.
As someone already mentioned, the confusion has nothing to do with Lady Gaga. It has to do with you expecting the game to feature Disney music.
Okay, since there is nothing innovative in any sense of the word in this title, please let me know what other Kinect games I can buy that will let me remix songs or craft jazz drum pieces using motion controls. Apparently I must be missing out on a lot of stuff going on in the Kinect world, and you seem to know a lot more about it than I do.
Okay, since there is nothing innovative in any sense of the word in this title, please let me know what other Kinect games I can buy that will let me remix songs or craft jazz drum pieces using motion controls. Apparently I must be missing out on a lot of stuff going on in the Kinect world, and you seem to know a lot more about it than I do.
I get the knee jerk reaction to it not being a game that one-to-one tries to emulate the experience of the 1940s film (or the follow-up, Fantasia 2000, which did attempt to emulate and continue exactly what was happening in 1940). It’s fair that fans and lovers of the original work might have certain expectations.
Take or leave what I’m about to say in response to these concerns/reactions – it’s not in any way intended to sway your thoughts on the merits of the game, but should frame where we are coming from. (Full disclosure for those who don’t know, I’m PR and Communications Lead at Harmonix and have worked on Fantasia for 12,000 years by this point.)
First, at no point did Disney Interactive want us to re-create the experience of Fantasia (1940) as a game. That exists, it still holds up as one of the most innovative, beautiful pieces of animation ever created to this date. You can’t touch THAT, and I don’t think you should. (See the 1991 Genesis/Mega Drive game for the results of that.) What Disney did want us to do – and this was an open ended assignment, honestly – was for us to capture the spirit of the film and bring it into a modern context using motion control and the interactive medium. I wasn’t there for the meeting, but there’s a legend that someone in the first Disney/Harmonix meeting said “Players should move their arms around and cool music and stuff should happen.” That’s… really broad!
Still, we wanted to be very respectful of what Walt Disney’s original vision for the film was. So beyond just taking a wild guess, we were given access to the Disney archives that contained transcribed notes of literally hundreds of hours of production meetings, meetings where that original team solidified their intent for the project. TL;DR – marry this new medium of film/animation with music to allow audiences to experience music a completely new and unique way. To connect them with musical pieces in a way that a recording or a live performance couldn’t.
At the time, the idea of a concert film started with these classical pieces people associate with the film. But the idea of building on that concept was to release additional shorts with new music, year over year. That never happened. From 1940 to now, so much has changed about music – evolving genres, new ways to create, new ways to share, new ways to consume, etc. So for us, there’s how we looked at the soundtrack, and that included classical music (we have a handful of classical tracks – including pieces from the 1940s film – as well as orchestral remixes of songs original written for other genres), rock music, pop music, electronic music, and more. All told, when you take a hard look at what genres and sounds you’ll hear in the game in terms of various remixes, it’s bonkers: big band jazz, country, heavy metal, punk, chip tunes, dubstep, pop, easy listening, hip-hop, and all matter of genre variations you could think of. [FWIW, there’s evidence based on archives I’ve read that suggested music that featured electronic drums was being considered for future Fantasia pieces… this was in 1939!]
I don’t expect everyone to agree with all of the music on the soundtrack; musical taste is highly personal and subjective. And you either enjoy the experience or you don’t; that’s also personal and subjective. But please don’t for a moment think that Harmonix or anyone at Disney Interactive has any motives outside of creating a truly unique, innovative experience that remains true to the spirit and core of what Fantasia is. (SomewhatGroovy: I do take issue with you saying “this game offers nothing innovative in any sense of the word.” Show me another game that allows players to not only create their own music in the context of existing works, but to take those existing works and alter them dramatically in real time. There really isn’t, as far as I know. The team worked hard to create a new gameplay experience, and I give them crazy props for actually delivering.)
Another thing to note is that the demo showcases performance gameplay, and there's a whole secondary interactive Discovery element that features gorgeous, musical and magical worlds that players can interact with. (That's hinted at in the visuals behind the Performance gameplay, as well as the "upsell video" that plays after you complete the demo.)
Also, CloudWolf’s icon is Mike Patton, so bonus points to him… talk about a musician who wrecklessly tears down genre barriers like woah. I used to sneak out in the middle of the night in high school to see him play improv shows at the Knitting Factory in NYC with a bunch of experimental musicians, which basically exploded my teenage brain.
UPDATE: Just saw SomewhatGroovy came to the same conclusion about the use of music beyond classical. Again, don't expect that to change your thoughts on the experience, but I hope you at least understand that we're being genuine here and not trying to cash in on a license. (FWIW, most of the market doesn't even know what Fantasia is... kids these days!)
BONUS: Also, if you think WE got Fantasia wrong, check THIS out.
Take or leave what I’m about to say in response to these concerns/reactions – it’s not in any way intended to sway your thoughts on the merits of the game, but should frame where we are coming from. (Full disclosure for those who don’t know, I’m PR and Communications Lead at Harmonix and have worked on Fantasia for 12,000 years by this point.)
First, at no point did Disney Interactive want us to re-create the experience of Fantasia (1940) as a game. That exists, it still holds up as one of the most innovative, beautiful pieces of animation ever created to this date. You can’t touch THAT, and I don’t think you should. (See the 1991 Genesis/Mega Drive game for the results of that.) What Disney did want us to do – and this was an open ended assignment, honestly – was for us to capture the spirit of the film and bring it into a modern context using motion control and the interactive medium. I wasn’t there for the meeting, but there’s a legend that someone in the first Disney/Harmonix meeting said “Players should move their arms around and cool music and stuff should happen.” That’s… really broad!
Still, we wanted to be very respectful of what Walt Disney’s original vision for the film was. So beyond just taking a wild guess, we were given access to the Disney archives that contained transcribed notes of literally hundreds of hours of production meetings, meetings where that original team solidified their intent for the project. TL;DR – marry this new medium of film/animation with music to allow audiences to experience music a completely new and unique way. To connect them with musical pieces in a way that a recording or a live performance couldn’t.
At the time, the idea of a concert film started with these classical pieces people associate with the film. But the idea of building on that concept was to release additional shorts with new music, year over year. That never happened. From 1940 to now, so much has changed about music – evolving genres, new ways to create, new ways to share, new ways to consume, etc. So for us, there’s how we looked at the soundtrack, and that included classical music (we have a handful of classical tracks – including pieces from the 1940s film – as well as orchestral remixes of songs original written for other genres), rock music, pop music, electronic music, and more. All told, when you take a hard look at what genres and sounds you’ll hear in the game in terms of various remixes, it’s bonkers: big band jazz, country, heavy metal, punk, chip tunes, dubstep, pop, easy listening, hip-hop, and all matter of genre variations you could think of. [FWIW, there’s evidence based on archives I’ve read that suggested music that featured electronic drums was being considered for future Fantasia pieces… this was in 1939!]
I don’t expect everyone to agree with all of the music on the soundtrack; musical taste is highly personal and subjective. And you either enjoy the experience or you don’t; that’s also personal and subjective. But please don’t for a moment think that Harmonix or anyone at Disney Interactive has any motives outside of creating a truly unique, innovative experience that remains true to the spirit and core of what Fantasia is. (SomewhatGroovy: I do take issue with you saying “this game offers nothing innovative in any sense of the word.” Show me another game that allows players to not only create their own music in the context of existing works, but to take those existing works and alter them dramatically in real time. There really isn’t, as far as I know. The team worked hard to create a new gameplay experience, and I give them crazy props for actually delivering.)
Another thing to note is that the demo showcases performance gameplay, and there's a whole secondary interactive Discovery element that features gorgeous, musical and magical worlds that players can interact with. (That's hinted at in the visuals behind the Performance gameplay, as well as the "upsell video" that plays after you complete the demo.)
Also, CloudWolf’s icon is Mike Patton, so bonus points to him… talk about a musician who wrecklessly tears down genre barriers like woah. I used to sneak out in the middle of the night in high school to see him play improv shows at the Knitting Factory in NYC with a bunch of experimental musicians, which basically exploded my teenage brain.
UPDATE: Just saw SomewhatGroovy came to the same conclusion about the use of music beyond classical. Again, don't expect that to change your thoughts on the experience, but I hope you at least understand that we're being genuine here and not trying to cash in on a license. (FWIW, most of the market doesn't even know what Fantasia is... kids these days!)
BONUS: Also, if you think WE got Fantasia wrong, check THIS out.
I will give the demo another run soon, I was not really feeling it. But reading the responses here I might catch unto it. I liked all Harmonix game thus far so hopefully this one will grab my interest as well.
Admittingly I was sitting while trying and that is probably not the best experience haha.
I do really like the soundtrack they put together so hopefully the experience will be better when giving full efffort.
I hope I have enough space in my room for the kinect to detect me properly.
Admittingly I was sitting while trying and that is probably not the best experience haha.
I do really like the soundtrack they put together so hopefully the experience will be better when giving full efffort.
I hope I have enough space in my room for the kinect to detect me properly.