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[Nafai1123]

 

[CadetMahoney]

Needs more deep throat.

 

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I will LOL if Russia hacked the FBI's Twitter account but Comey still doesn't want to talk about Trump having links with Russia

fuck Comey

For once, I'm on the side of this being an inside job. The FBI seems to have employees/departments working to advance political goals, and some of those actors may have forced Comey's hand last week.

 

[Outdoor Miner]

Comey's house is a mess. Where's the wife to clean it up? Sad!

 

[jmdajr]

Wonder if this story will make traction.

"FBI Is corrupt" is her big counter right now.

At the very least, the agency is having it's own civil war.

 

[mclem]

But who was FBI?!

The Fuckin-up Bigly Institute.

 

[Metroidvania]

Oh man... The way people prop J. Edgar Hoover up to be this sort of saint of law enforcement is fucking baffling.

Wut?

He's saying that Hoover was a sleazebag, and using his actions as evidence for poor showing by the FBI for decades, not 'propping' Hoover up as a Saint.

 

[Snowybreak]

Wut?

He's saying that Hoover was a sleazebag, and using his actions as evidence for poor showing by the FBI for decades, not 'propping' Hoover up as a Saint.

...I was agreeing with him.

 

[Rentahamster]

Will was responding to a complaint from Jonathan Hutson, a former investigative reporter who now works in communication in Washington, DC. She did not respond to requests, via phone and email, for further comment.

Nancy McNamara, the Assistant Director of the FBI’s Inspection Division, also confirmed to Hutson that she had received the complaint. She copied Voviette Morgan, a 19-year veteran now serving as Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the Los Angeles office.

It looks to me like some citizens who don't know how the FBI's FOIA electronic release protocol works got suspicious, filed a complaint, and now someone has to look into it. Thus, the very existence of someone at the FBI "looking into it" is enough for TP to run a story about how the FBI is investigating itself.

A better explanation would be that Trump supporters are spamming the FBI with FOIA requests, which the FBI has to comply with. They even explained it here:

The FBI's Records Management Division receives thousands of FOIA requests annually which are processed on a first in, first out (FIFO) basis. By law, FOIA materials that have been requested three or more times are posted electronically to the FBI’s public reading room shortly after they are processed. Per the standard procedure for FOIA, these materials became available for release and were posted automatically and electronically to the FBI’s public reading room in accordance with the law and established procedures.

The Twitter account is basically just an extension of their reading room. For those of you who might not know, all agencies have an online "reading room" for searching their FOIA document dumps.

This has been law since 1996, signed by Bill Clinton:

https://www.justice.gov/oip/blog/fo...ct-552-amended-public-law-no-104-231-110-stat

I am pleased to sign into law today H.R. 3802, the "Electronic Freedom of Information Act Amendments of 1996."

...

The legislation I sign today brings FOIA into the information and electronic age by clarifying that it applies to records maintained in electronic format. This law also broadens public access to government information by placing more material on-line and expanding the role of the agency reading room.

Reading rooms like this one: https://www.archives.gov/foia/electronic-reading-room.html

Or this one: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/what-electronic-reading-room

Or this one: https://foia.state.gov/Search/Search.aspx

Or this one, which is the FBI's reading room, which contains the same information as the Twitter account: https://vault.fbi.gov/recently-added


TLR
Don't blame the FBI. Blame Trump supporters for using the law to force the government to release documents. Then blame anti-Trump supporters for not knowing how their government works and thinking it's a conspiracy.

 

[USC-fan]

Just think if the FBI team up with russia.... this could get BAD!

 

[allenpergallon]

The only response necessary.

 

[WeAreStarStuff]

Is this real life?

 

[jmdajr]

It looks to me like some citizens who don't know how the FBI's FOIA electronic release protocol works got suspicious, filed a complaint, and now someone has to look into it. Thus, the very existence of someone at the FBI "looking into it" is enough for TP to run a story about how the FBI is investigating itself.

A better explanation would be that Trump supporters are spamming the FBI with FOIA requests, which the FBI has to comply with. They even explained it here:


The Twitter account is basically just an extension of their reading room. For those of you who might not know, all agencies have an online "reading room" for searching their FOIA document dumps.

This has been law since 1996, signed by Bill Clinton:

https://www.justice.gov/oip/blog/fo...ct-552-amended-public-law-no-104-231-110-stat



Reading rooms like this one: https://www.archives.gov/foia/electronic-reading-room.html

Or this one: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/what-electronic-reading-room

Or this one: https://foia.state.gov/Search/Search.aspx

Or this one, which is the FBI's reading room, which contains the same information as the Twitter account: https://vault.fbi.gov/recently-added


TLR
Don't blame the FBI. Blame Trump supporters for using the law to force the government to release documents. Then blame anti-Trump supporters for not knowing how their government works and thinking it's a conspiracy.

I see

 

[Apathy]

Oh man... The way people prop J. Edgar Hoover up to be this sort of saint of law enforcement is fucking baffling.

The only people that do that are waspy rich people that he never targeted. Everyone else, of multiple religious, political, ethnic, racial backgrounds know hoover to be corrupt as fuck

 

[StrikeNinja24]

It looks to me like some citizens who don't know how the FBI's FOIA electronic release protocol works got suspicious, filed a complaint, and now someone has to look into it. Thus, the very existence of someone at the FBI "looking into it" is enough for TP to run a story about how the FBI is investigating itself.

A better explanation would be that Trump supporters are spamming the FBI with FOIA requests, which the FBI has to comply with. They even explained it here:


The Twitter account is basically just an extension of their reading room. For those of you who might not know, all agencies have an online "reading room" for searching their FOIA document dumps.

This has been law since 1996, signed by Bill Clinton:

https://www.justice.gov/oip/blog/fo...ct-552-amended-public-law-no-104-231-110-stat



Reading rooms like this one: https://www.archives.gov/foia/electronic-reading-room.html

Or this one: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/what-electronic-reading-room

Or this one: https://foia.state.gov/Search/Search.aspx

Or this one, which is the FBI's reading room, which contains the same information as the Twitter account: https://vault.fbi.gov/recently-added


TLR
Don't blame the FBI. Blame Trump supporters for using the law to force the government to release documents. Then blame anti-Trump supporters for not knowing how their government works and thinking it's a conspiracy.

So time to spam every single case Trump has ever been in?

 

[paskowitz]

I give you the F... B... I.

 

[Elandyll]

It looks to me like some citizens who don't know how the FBI's FOIA electronic release protocol works got suspicious, filed a complaint, and now someone has to look into it. Thus, the very existence of someone at the FBI "looking into it" is enough for TP to run a story about how the FBI is investigating itself.

A better explanation would be that Trump supporters are spamming the FBI with FOIA requests, which the FBI has to comply with. They even explained it here:


The Twitter account is basically just an extension of their reading room. For those of you who might not know, all agencies have an online "reading room" for searching their FOIA document dumps.

This has been law since 1996, signed by Bill Clinton:

https://www.justice.gov/oip/blog/fo...ct-552-amended-public-law-no-104-231-110-stat



Reading rooms like this one: https://www.archives.gov/foia/electronic-reading-room.html

Or this one: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/what-electronic-reading-room

Or this one: https://foia.state.gov/Search/Search.aspx

Or this one, which is the FBI's reading room, which contains the same information as the Twitter account: https://vault.fbi.gov/recently-added


TLR
Don't blame the FBI. Blame Trump supporters for using the law to force the government to release documents. Then blame anti-Trump supporters for not knowing how their government works and thinking it's a conspiracy.

So how do you explain that said twitter address has been dormant for a year, to suddenly, 1 week before the election, post a FOIA request that contains a postive/ fluff about Trump's father (for appearance of neutrality), followed by a negative on Bill Clinton?

 

[ReAxion]

TLR
Don't blame the FBI. Blame Trump supporters for using the law to force the government to release documents. Then blame anti-Trump supporters for not knowing how their government works and thinking it's a conspiracy.

technically, it's still a conspiracy.

 

[Rentahamster]

So how do you explain that said twitter address has been dormant for a year, to suddenly, 1 week before the election, post a FOIA request that contains a postive/ fluff about Trump's father (for appearance of neutrality), followed by a negative on Bill Clinton?

If you look at the history of the document releases it seems to happen in spurts, so the fact that there are long periods of dormancy doesn't seem too out of line. The timing is tied to who is doing the FOIA requests. It's close to the election because the people submitting the FOIA requests are doing so because of the election, so of course the timings are the same.

technically, it's still a conspiracy.

For lack of a better word, sure. But it's not an FBI conspiracy, which is the point of all the hullabaloo.

 

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TLR
Don't blame the FBI. Blame Trump supporters for using the law to force the government to release documents. Then blame anti-Trump supporters for not knowing how their government works and thinking it's a conspiracy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-03/the-fbi-wants-to-make-america-great-again

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ Project on Government Secrecy, told me it was true that records requested from multiple people are supposed to be added to the government agency’s electronic reading room. “What undermines that explanation is that they were not just added to the reading room, they were broadcast on this rarely used Twitter account,” he said. What’s more, Aftergood said government agencies have great discretion when they respond to Freedom of Information Act requests. “There is always a bottleneck, because the resources to review FOIA requests are inadequate to the demand,” he said.

 

[double jump]

Guy 1: "It wasn't supposed to end like this."
Guy2: "When we first started I told you to aways watch your back"

Election day can't come soon enough. It's been a circus of stupidity.

 

[jmood88]

Man, I once thought that the FBI was like this well-oiled machine that could stop any threat that rise, online or otherwise. But after this, the FBI is a haphazard mess, and it runs like an old ass jalopy.

When people are involved, things get sloppy.

 

[Rentahamster]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-03/the-fbi-wants-to-make-america-great-again

That account's activity has occurred in bursts before. The document release is what it is because that's what people requested. There has been a large online push to get a lot of people to submit FOIA requests about anything Clinton related.

 

[AlphaDump]

That account's activity has occurred in bursts before. The document release is what it is because that's what people requested. There has been a large online push to get a lot of people to submit FOIA requests about anything Clinton related.

Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ Project on Government Secrecy, told me it was true that records requested from multiple people are supposed to be added to the government agency’s electronic reading room. “What undermines that explanation is that they were not just added to the reading room, they were broadcast on this rarely used Twitter account,” he said. What’s more, Aftergood said government agencies have great discretion when they respond to Freedom of Information Act requests. “There is always a bottleneck, because the resources to review FOIA requests are inadequate to the demand,” he said.

They are supposed to be added to the agency's electronic reading room, not broadcasted on twitter.

There was no discretion.

 

[Rentahamster]

They are supposed to be added to the agency's electronic reading room, not broadcasted on twitter.

There was no discretion.

They're supposed to do both.

 

[AlphaDump]

They're supposed to do both.

right, and they didn't..

 

[andythinkpad]

LOL is FBI working for Putin now.

 

[Nafai1123]

They're supposed to do both.

If that's the case, what did they do before Twitter? Surely there must be some evidence of the FBI broadcasting stuff out a week before the election in previous election years if it's not unusual at all, right?

 

[Cyan]

Delete your account.

 

[The Shadow]

WTFFBIBBQ

 

[Rentahamster]

right, and they didn't..

Yeah they did, check the Twitter history.

If that's the case, what did they do before Twitter? Surely there must be some evidence of the FBI broadcasting stuff out a week before the election in previous election years if it's not unusual at all, right?

Huh? I'm not sure what your complaint is. They did this before Twitter (and continue to do so now): https://www.justice.gov/oip/blog/fo...ct-552-amended-public-law-no-104-231-110-stat

 

[Cidd]

But who investigates the FBI investigating the FBI?

 

[xaosslug]

delete it fat!

 

[PlayALLtheGames]

So FBI is now investigating itself. Seems par for the course.

 

[Stop It]

Federal Bureau of Idiots

God damnit.

The FBI have really showered themselves in glory this election cycle. Apparently not trying to bias the election means something entirely different at their offices.

 

[Cybit]

This is the most 21st century FBI investigation I've seen in a while. Investigating its' own twitter account.

Though, to be fair, this is the same organization that tried to convince MLK to kill himself, so maybe we shouldn't be overboard on the entire "wow the FBI has really fallen from its glory days" bit.

 

[Nafai1123]

Yeah they did, check the Twitter history.


Huh? I'm not sure what your complaint is. They did this before Twitter (and continue to do so now): https://www.justice.gov/oip/blog/fo...ct-552-amended-public-law-no-104-231-110-stat

Where does it say they are required to broadcast their FOIA release to the public? All I'm seeing is that they're required to release it, which nobody is contending.

 

[DragonSworne]

Wonder if this story will make traction.

"FBI Is corrupt" is her big counter right now.

At the very least, the agency is having it's own civil war.

24 hour TV news Media doesn't care unless it was corrupt against Trump.

 

[AlphaDump]

Yeah they did, check the Twitter history.


Huh? I'm not sure what your complaint is. They did this before Twitter (and continue to do so now): https://www.justice.gov/oip/blog/fo...ct-552-amended-public-law-no-104-231-110-stat

And i read through, there is nothing about broadcasting it, especially over twitter.

There would also be prior examples.

Also, why investigate if it is their policy?

 

[Easy_D]

LOCK THEM UP

Federal Bureau of Idiots

Seems the Complete Idiot Agency has some competition

 

[Rentahamster]

Where does it say they are required to broadcast their FOIA release to the public? All I'm seeing is that they're required to release it, which nobody is contending.

And i read through, there is nothing about broadcasting it, especially over twitter.

There would also be prior examples.

Twitter didn't exist in 1996. In an effort to be more internet savvy, they gave their reading room a Twitter component too, which has been used since 2011.

Also, why investigate if it is their policy?

Because some people complained.

 

[Nafai1123]

Twitter didn't exist in 1996. In an effort to be more internet savvy, they gave their reading room a Twitter component too, which has been used since 2011.


Because some people complained.

So how did they publically broadcast this in the past? Press conference? Interviews with radio/TV stations or publications in newspapers? Anything at all?

 

[Gnome Scat]

I wish this would all end after election day but I know it's not.

 

[Rentahamster]

So how did they publically broadcast this in the past? Press conference? Interviews with radio/TV stations or publications in newspapers? Anything at all?

They put it in their online reading room, or sent it through the mail to the recipient, depending on the circumstances. What's the hangup with "publicly broadcasting"?

 

[Nafai1123]

They put it in their online reading room, or sent it through the mail to the recipient, depending on the circumstances. What's the hangup with "publicly broadcasting"?

Uhh, that's the entire problem with this and it's why they're looking into it to begin with. Putting something on their site, or mailing it to the recipient, is not the same as tweeting it out, and is CERTAINLY not the same as tweeting it out a week before the election.

 

[RainForce]

Has the election driven the FBI insane or have they always been like this?

 

[Elaugaufein]

Its so weird that this stuff get's investigated internally. You'd think there be independent agencies specifically to investigate problems in investigative / proprietorial / judicial agencies.

 

[StickSoldier]

What's going on with this country man? I have never seen an election this crazy before!

 

[dskillzhtown]

They put it in their online reading room, or sent it through the mail to the recipient, depending on the circumstances. What's the hangup with "publicly broadcasting"?

So you are saying that the FBI started this investigation just for the hell of it? They must think something may be amiss if they are investigating, right? If everything went according to plan, then why investigate?

 

[Netherscourge]

Trump has a couple friends in the FBI.