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[kamspy]

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."

Well there it is GAF.

 

[ColdPizza]

Comey is a very trustworthy individual, I believe that there shouldn't be any criminal charges brought on her, but a very important element of his public announcement should be noted.



Hillary has no business running for the most important job in the US with a statement like this coming from the FBI, while Trump is not fit for presidency either in my opinion, the US is truly as a nation, in a lot of trouble with both of these candidates. I don't think there should be celebration from either side of the aisle if you are a voter.

Kind of hard to run for POTUS with revoked security credentials.

 

[Volimar]

Comey is a very trustworthy individual, I believe that there shouldn't be any criminal charges brought on her, but a very important element of his public announcement should be noted.



Hillary has no business running for the most important job in the US with a statement like this coming from the FBI, while Trump is not fit for presidency either in my opinion, the US is truly as a nation, in a lot of trouble with both of these candidates. I don't think there should be celebration from either side of the aisle if you are a voter.

Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and celebrate for Hillary because I'm a democrat and she's going to forward the democrat agenda.

Spoiler

woohoo

 

[sangreal]

Well there it is GAF.

There is half a quote, yes

 

[captive]

Good, now we can retire this boring talking point

good luck with that people are already taking this

and saying if she werent hillary clinton she would have been indicted.

 

[Merc_]

https://twitter.com/HAGOODMANAUTHOR/status/750364807937667076

:jnc

lmao people are going to town on him.

 

[Monty Mole]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/750352884106223616

Trump talking about 'bad judgment' hahahahaha

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Comey is a very trustworthy individual, I believe that there shouldn't be any criminal charges brought on her, but a very important element of his public announcement should be noted.



Hillary has no business running for the most important job in the US with a statement like this coming from the FBI, while Trump is not fit for presidency either in my opinion, the US is truly as a nation, in a lot of trouble with both of these candidates. I don't think there should be celebration from either side of the aisle if you are a voter.

She wanted to use her blackberry.

 

[pigeon]

Kind of hard to run for POTUS with revoked security credentials.

Uh, I mean, no it isn't? There's no requirement that you have security clearance to run for office. How would that even work?

They're not going to revoke her security clearance anyway. Go through all that paperwork and set all those flags just to have to do it all again in six months? Remember, this whole scandal is because NSA IT was lazy in the first place.

 

[wenis]

 

[pigeon]

Very consistent with the GOP playbook. They'll probably investigate Comey now just as they did with the IRS director.

 

[Horns]

The outcome that was expected.

 

[QuantumZebra]

Just had to point out that Pearl Jam is the GOAT rock band and this is the GOAT music video.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Well there it is GAF.

He said in the next sentence (that your coicidentally ignored) that it would be administrative discipline and not criminal charges.

 

[Torokil]

Pretty much, yea...no, because the second half of that quote says that those consequences would be administrative, not legal.

Well yeah Hillary dipped out of her previous administrative job years ago so it's pretty obvious that there's not a lot of security clearances to be revoked. You don't have to cherry pick/be a Fox News employee to see it as another case of Clinton being slimy as fuck but skating by on technicalities. In fact if Hillary wasn't a presumptive nominee of a major party she probably would've gotten more than just being called naughty, similar to how Trump "managed" to get the Trump U case pushed back to late November. It's all water under the bridge I guess.

I think the real outcome is going to depend on whether Trump and the Republicans can make the message focus on the first 10 minutes of his remarks, where he outlined negligence and incompetence, or whether David Brock and Hillary can successfully push a message of Hillary being vindicated once again. Trump is a fuckup so I presume David Brock will correct this record.

 

[BitStyle]

The outcome that was expected.

Yep, the outcome and the responses.

 

[diablos991]

Kind of hard to run for POTUS with revoked security credentials.

We all know they won't revoke the credentials here even if the FBI alluded to it happening to non pedigree folk.

 

[RealityCheque]

If someone has trouble making that decision then that says a lot about them as a person.

None of them being qualities I'd look for in any elected official, let alone the President of the US.

 

[B-Dubs]

Uh, I mean, no it isn't? There's no requirement that you have security clearance to run for office. How would that even work?

They're not going to revoke her security clearance anyway. Go through all that paperwork and set all those flags just to have to do it all again in six months? Remember, this whole scandal is because NSA IT was lazy in the first place.

That's the crux of it. Had NSA IT given half a shit and accommodated her and everyone else access to mobile devices in a world where they are basically standard none of this would have even happened. Basically the US Government is like a decade behind in terms of technology, which is shocking to no one.

Who didn't see that coming?

 

[ColdPizza]

Uh, I mean, no it isn't? There's no requirement that you have security clearance to run for office. How would that even work?

They're not going to revoke her security clearance anyway. Go through all that paperwork and set all those flags just to have to do it all again in six months? Remember, this whole scandal is because NSA IT was lazy in the first place.

I misworded, but basically responding to Comey's quote, security or administrative actions (barring legal actions) would pretty much be revocation of security clearances.

There are clearly some instances where the president might not have clearance for information, but we know as POTUS most everything they're looking at is Top Secret (and a need to know basis).

 

[whyamihere]

He's saying he wants to look into how this was decided.

The Clintons are wrapped up in a scandal where they are admonished but ultimately cleared of any illegal activity. And an amutious speaker overplays his hand to try to get them on SOMETHING, ultimately fails. It's the fucking 90s!

 

[TheOMan]

good luck with that people are already taking this

and saying if she werent hillary clinton she would have been indicted.

But...I mean the quote itself says that wouldn't happen.

???

 

[CharminUltra]

O Queen! My Queen!

 

[Hazmat]

Just had to point out that Pearl Jam is the GOAT rock band and this is the GOAT music video.

Conservatives and liberals, democrats and republicans, and Hillary voters and Bernie voters can all unite for Do the Evolution.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Comey should wear a Sheriff's star so the GOP will respect him.

 

[Black Republican]

Not surprised but the gop still have their talking points. Benghazi and emails talk will continue

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Well yeah Hillary dipped out of her previous administrative job years ago so it's pretty obvious that there's not a lot of security clearances to be revoked. You don't have to cherry pick/be a Fox News employee to see it as another case of Clinton being slimy as fuck but skating by on technicalities. In fact if Hillary wasn't a presumptive nominee of a major party she probably would've gotten more than just being called naughty, similar to how Trump "managed" to get the Trump U case pushed back to late November. It's all water under the bridge I guess.

I think the real outcome is going to depend on whether Trump and the Republicans can make the message focus on the first 10 minutes of his remarks, where he outlined negligence and incompetence, or whether David Brock and Hillary can successfully push a message of Hillary being vindicated once again. Trump is a fuckup so I presume David Brock will correct this record.

If she weren't running for president, this wouldn't have even come up. Nobody's going through Condi Rice's or Colin Powell's old email and they did the same thing.

 

[MrBadger]

Predictable outcome. Now to avoid the Reddit front page, as it's most likely feeling the wrath of the Donald Trump subreddit, who seem to have forgotten how dodgy and stinking rich their own candidate is.

 

[pigeon]

Well yeah Hillary dipped out of her previous administrative job years ago so it's pretty obvious that there's not a lot of security clearances to be revoked. You don't have to cherry pick/be a Fox News employee to see it as another case of Clinton being slimy as fuck but skating by on technicalities. In fact if Hillary wasn't a presumptive nominee of a major party she probably would've gotten more than just being called naughty, similar to how Trump "managed" to get the Trump U case pushed back to late November. It's all water under the bridge I guess.

Comey: "If somebody else had done this they would probably get in trouble, but not get charged."
You: "See, it's pretty clear that if somebody else had done this they would get charged."

Okay then.

 

[Monocle]

Since you clearly have zero experience in dealing with classified information, let me enlighten you a bit.

I've conducted four investigations for accidental/negligent discharge of classified data...in 2016. This stuff happens all the time, and it completely comes down to the circumstances of the event as to whether or not we do a damn thing about it. I've had people carry a backpack full of classified data outside of a SCIF environment. We bring the hammer down for that.

People sending TS data over NIPR can be a serious event, depending on who the recipients were, whether or not we can establish positive control of the distro chain, and explanation for how the data came to be on an unclassified system.

If Hillary and company were discussing TS initiatives and programs in veiled, roundabout terminology, it's fucking nothing. If Hillary was forwarding improperly marked emails that she received on her Blackberry, the originator will be investigated and may have disciplinary action. If Hillary is literally purposefully copying/pasting or typing data she knows is TS into her BB, then she should have charges.

From what we've heard on this case, we know it's not option C. So we're left with fucking nothing.

If you want to use this as a stump for a racist, misogynistic, thin-skinned, uneducated asshole to be president, be my guest. Join Trump in putting on clown shoes while you're at it.

Roasted.

 

[studyguy]

Very consistent with the GOP playbook. They'll probably investigate Comey now just as they did with the IRS director.

This horse isn't quite dead yet but the talking points were never going to go away anyhow. They won't until Clinton is out of the spotlight, then it'll be crickets.

 

[kamspy]

He said in the next sentence (that your coicidentally ignored) that it would be administrative discipline and not criminal charges.

You'd be willing to share what she did on a private server and only expect 'administrative discipline'?

This is leaving an enormous stink on the only party in the US that I've ever voted for. I don't think many people here are looking at this objectively. There are plenty of other potential Democratic torch bearers that could lead the country. I don't see the need to attach our ideals to this person.

 

[BrutishMrFish]

None of them being qualities I'd look for in any elected official, let alone the President of the US.

Ideally, sure, but a lot of people don't have the luxury of picking the perfect candidate, and if being habitually dishonest and negligent with technology disqualified someone from running for office, we would have no politicians.

 

[TheOMan]

Since you clearly have zero experience in dealing with classified information, let me enlighten you a bit.

I've conducted four investigations for accidental/negligent discharge of classified data...in 2016. This stuff happens all the time, and it completely comes down to the circumstances of the event as to whether or not we do a damn thing about it. I've had people carry a backpack full of classified data outside of a SCIF environment. We bring the hammer down for that.

People sending TS data over NIPR can be a serious event, depending on who the recipients were, whether or not we can establish positive control of the distro chain, and explanation for how the data came to be on an unclassified system.

If Hillary and company were discussing TS initiatives and programs in veiled, roundabout terminology, it's fucking nothing. If Hillary was forwarding improperly marked emails that she received on her Blackberry, the originator will be investigated and may have disciplinary action. If Hillary is literally purposefully copying/pasting or typing data she knows is TS into her BB, then she should have charges.

From what we've heard on this case, we know it's not option C. So we're left with fucking nothing.

If you want to use this as a stump for a racist, misogynistic, thin-skinned, uneducated asshole to be president, be my guest. Join Trump in putting on clown shoes while you're at it.

Post of the day? And it's not even Noon?

 

[Revolver]

That whole press conference was strange. I can't remember the last time the FBI held a presser to announce no charges were forthcoming AND give the accused a nice little tongue lashing. I'd like to see some investigating into how different agencies handle the passing of classified information. I'm willing to bet the results wouldn't be pretty. The governments IT as a whole seems really shoddy.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Five dollars the GOP are going to attach themselves to the 'Extremely Careless' portion of the statement and try to attach that to her. I also expect trump to constantly repeat 'Extremely careless' in debates. Like, he'll hold his finger up, say 'Excuse me!', and then when everyone is quiet, he'll say 'Extremely careless.'

 

[Amagon]

Move along citizens.

 

[CrazyDude]

You'd be willing to share what she did on a private server and only expect 'administrative discipline'?

This is leaving an enormous stink on the only party in the US that I've ever voted for. I don't think many people here are looking at this objectively. There are plenty of other potential Democratic torch bearers that could lead the country. I don't see the need to attach our ideals to this person.

Why don't you share, you are the one who is making accusations.

 

[DrForester]

Since you clearly have zero experience in dealing with classified information, let me enlighten you a bit.

I've conducted four investigations for accidental/negligent discharge of classified data...in 2016. This stuff happens all the time, and it completely comes down to the circumstances of the event as to whether or not we do a damn thing about it. I've had people carry a backpack full of classified data outside of a SCIF environment. We bring the hammer down for that.

People sending TS data over NIPR can be a serious event, depending on who the recipients were, whether or not we can establish positive control of the distro chain, and explanation for how the data came to be on an unclassified system.

If Hillary and company were discussing TS initiatives and programs in veiled, roundabout terminology, it's fucking nothing. If Hillary was forwarding improperly marked emails that she received on her Blackberry, the originator will be investigated and may have disciplinary action. If Hillary is literally purposefully copying/pasting or typing data she knows is TS into her BB, then she should have charges.

From what we've heard on this case, we know it's not option C. So we're left with fucking nothing.

If you want to use this as a stump for a racist, misogynistic, thin-skinned, uneducated asshole to be president, be my guest. Join Trump in putting on clown shoes while you're at it.

Excellent post.

Kind of wish this had been worded in the "I don't know how much you know about Japanese culture...." format though.

 

[Volimar]

Don't look into the hashtag #Comey


By all accounts he was a stand up guy. Until this morning.

Yeesh.

 

[metalslimer]

That whole press conference was strange. I can't remember the last time the FBI held a presser to announce no charges were forthcoming AND give the accused a nice little tongue lashing. I'd like to see some investigating into how different agencies handle the passing of classified information. I'm willing to bet the results wouldn't be pretty. The governments IT as a whole seems really shoddy.

Government servers have been hacked numerous times, so I'm not particularly confident. Really, the best thing that could have come of this would be a review of all the levels of IT across the different departments and not just the state department. But we all know that won't happen

 

[captive]

But...I mean the quote itself says that wouldn't happen.

???

you're assuming that conservatives A) can read B) don't need it completely spelled out for them and C) only outcome that was acceptable to them was indictment.

 

[Tragicomedy]

Uh that's completely wrong. If something is regularly considered unclassified "certain terminology" and it's being associated with classified information those terms become classified.

If Hillary read emails and knew they might contain classified information regardless if they were marked at the time then it's her responsibility to mark them.

Disagreeing with Hillary means wanting to vote for Trump? Fuck off with this slippery slope bullshit.

You're banned so I'm likely wasting my time here, but no. We use cover terms and to discuss programs and technology all the time. Using those terms is completely acceptable, that's why they exist. You get read into special access programs and they all have different terms. If you were to associate specifics with those terms, you've treaded a fine line that could potentially cross into the classified realm. Which, for the record, happens all the time. I was read into three different programs in Iraq because a loose-lipped Agency rep did exactly that.

As for implying Hillary should have acted as a clarification authority, I can't do much more than laugh. Senior leaders at all levels of government are relatively clueless on these matters. General officers don't log into their own systems, and we write ghost emails for them and transmit on their behalf. Outside of DIA channels, most officials don't even know what caveats and portion markings signify. Expecting the Secretary of State to add portion markings to incoming emails is hilarious. It's not a bridge too far. The bridge never existed in the first place.

 

[kamspy]

Why don't you share, you are the one who is making accusations.

Surely everyone here has a family member or a friend in the military or government that has access to information that must handled in a prescribed way. Ask them what would happen to them if they transmitted those documents on a private server. I'm guessing 'administrative discipline' will not be in their answers.

 

[Angry Grimace]

She's gonna take a hit of a few points and you'll see a period of people diablosing hard as fuck because Trump will look way more competitive, but Trump will fuck up within a week or so.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

None of them being qualities I'd look for in any elected official, let alone the President of the US.

Sure, but all politicians -- nay, ALL people -- are dishonest, so you have to accept that one if you live in the real world. So you're basically asking which is worse, negligence or racism? And if you have trouble with that, then you're kinda the turd in this scenario.

 

[DuffDry]

People had made their minds up about this ages ago. This either confirms your beliefs about how this was blown way out of proportion or that the system is "rigged."

Perspective is neat.

 

[Super_Cobra]

So can I go driving without a license and carelessly and get away with it?

 

[Jenov]

So can I go driving without a license and carelessly and get away with it?

Totally the same dude

 

[B-Dubs]

She's gonna take a hit of a few points and you'll see a period of people diablosing hard as fuck because Trump will look way more competitive, but Trump will fuck up within a week or so.

Considering he's said he's going to release the speaker's list for the RNC tomorrow expect that fuck up within a few days.