Of course not.
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Fez (very) unlikely to come to Wii U.
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Of course not.
That was actually a joke by McMillen; everyone just took it the wrong way. He legitimately really loves Nintendo.
Treated. They used to require you to have an office to publish a digital game, and you had to sell a certain amount of copies to start making money, i.e. if you are required to sell 5,000 copies and you sell 4,500, you'll never see a cent of it.
peanutbutterlatte
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OH WOW. It gets even better;
Yes. Yes, you are Phillip. Please someone with eShop experience get in here and call him out on this shit?
Yes. Yes, you are Phillip. Please someone with eShop experience get in here and call him out on this shit?
Sorcerer Supreme
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Phil Fish is my hero.
Palette Swap
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The irony would work if he had not spent forfuckingever working on the game. Back when Fez was announced, MS was the most progressive console platform holder towards indies.
Cerebral Assassin
Member
Makes sense, if it was on the Wii U he wouldn't have an excuse not to patch his broken game.
Yes, I'm well aware. I wasn't asking a question, was a rhetorical question/reaction to his odd statement cause how good Nintendo is with indie lately.
sanji_blue
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I thought the same thing after watching him in Indie Game: The Movie.
Jaded Alyx
Member
As a primarily PC and Nintendo gamer, this guy seems to working overtime trying to piss me off.
After watching Indie Game: The Movie I thought that Fish's erratic behavior was just getting to terms with the development stress but now I'm pretty much asking myself whether or not the entire experience working on the game has permanently cracked him.
Yes, I'm well aware. I wasn't asking a question, was a rhetorical question cause how good Nintendo is with indie lately.
But his whole thing was that he's upset because of how terrible they used to be with regards to indies. Yes, it's a grudge, but it still didn't really make sense with your [rhetorical] question.
Goldenroad
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It's not that it "couldn't", it's that he refused to, despite the fact that he made hunderds of thousands off the people who bought it day one. It's called contempt and he's the king of it.
Mystic_Wanderer
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Weird, all these people in here defending Nintendo. With Luigi hats too!
Anyway, no matter how much they've changed in the past few months, if you got shit on for years and years, wouldn't that change how you feel too?
Either way, going with an established developer on what he says over hypotheses from people with no experience in the arena. Unless someone says otherwise with actual experience.
Anyway, no matter how much they've changed in the past few months, if you got shit on for years and years, wouldn't that change how you feel too?
Either way, going with an established developer on what he says over hypotheses from people with no experience in the arena. Unless someone says otherwise with actual experience.
Christberg
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This guy is way too full of himself for how much he's accomplished. Congratulations, you released one broken albeit well reviewed XBLA game. Good for you.
Devs are supposed to want their game on every platform! Why miss out on potential revenue? Nintendo is good with indies now.
But anyway, he's an asshole. He should keep running his mouth off in public, great idea!
Burn those bridges!
But anyway, he's an asshole. He should keep running his mouth off in public, great idea!
Burn those bridges!
Ya'll seem to forget that Nintendo's limitations for downloadable games on the Wii were even more constricting than Microsoft's. Meat Boy was originally going to be a WiiWare front runner, but due to the insane restrictions Nintendo placed on the service due to their lack of forethought regarding downloads and installs, it was scrapped. Team Meat weren't the only ones who started work on WiiWare titles, but had to jump ship some time into development. The only game I can think of that got a lot of support from Nintendo was CaveStory, which came out when I was in college (nigh on 8 years ago).
Nintendo's downloadable services have only been worth development for about a year now, and even then, it's still fraught with issues. Even with all the steps taken by Nintendo, it seems it still easier to develop for the 360 and PSN. Besides WayForward, who are developing for everything under the sun, I can't think of a single publisher that sees the current state of WiiWare as an actual contender.
When you make a game that most of the gaming community considers to be one of the best games of the year, you matter. It doesn't matter if you like him or his game or not.
Nintendo's downloadable services have only been worth development for about a year now, and even then, it's still fraught with issues. Even with all the steps taken by Nintendo, it seems it still easier to develop for the 360 and PSN. Besides WayForward, who are developing for everything under the sun, I can't think of a single publisher that sees the current state of WiiWare as an actual contender.
When you make a game that most of the gaming community considers to be one of the best games of the year, you matter. It doesn't matter if you like him or his game or not.
It was announced in July 2007 according to Wikipedia (lol). How were the Steam and PSN then? I can't really remember. Well it doesn't really matter because Mr. Fish doesn't value companies based on their current practices but those that are past.
He never got contacted by Nintendo. Not even once. He has never dealt with them before.
Well yesterday he was complaining about the DS and 3DS and now he says he likes them.
https://twitter.com/TronKnotts
https://twitter.com/TronKnotts
They did that to a developer on wii eShop, since then Nintendo has removed those restrictions but I can understand where Phil is coming from; he just has old information, I haven't heard anything of the sort regard the wii u. Also in a later tweet he stated that he doesn't have the resources to port the game to a Nintendo platform unless they handle it themselves.
peanutbutterlatte
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Ooof course you do Davey. Of course you do.
PRjumpman124
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Phish is an... interesting guy.
Oh yeah, I remember him saying that a while ago and GAF (rightfully) getting mad and calling out his BS on that stupid comment.
Seems like to me here the guy has a really strong grudge against the 3DS.
Tummi Gummi
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Exterminieren
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Taking Phil Fish as gospel for anything other than what Phil Fish thinks is... Not a wise move.
If Nintendo's reforms were standard, XBLA Fez wouldn't be broken right now.
Yes, I'm well aware. I wasn't asking a question, was a rhetorical question/reaction to his odd statement cause how good Nintendo is with indie lately.
They're not being good, they're just getting a bit closer to what the norm has been for a long time on other platforms. So considering how terrible they were last gen and before that, they need to be better than this.
funkystudent
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I am sure there is truth to what he is saying but he should try not to be such a dick about it.
Ass or not, you all still played Fez so I guess the joke's on us.
Really? In my opinion there are enough good games in world to support that you don't have to buy the few that have assholes behind them.
Wait, a person can't complain about things he or she likes? I rant about things that I love all the time. It's just that some little issues can bug me like crazy sometimes.
Jaded Alyx
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You seem very misinformed, especially as you still use the term WiiWare and seem to ignore the 3DS.
Ass or not, you all still played Fez so I guess the joke's on us.
I play games if they're good. End of discussion.
Considering indies can self publish and don't require paying for patches, I say they are already in a much better position.
ExigentContact
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Fact is, other developers have spoken on how the eShop situation has improved. Phil Fish's ignorance is merely amusing and perhaps a smidgen justified given the horrid WiiWare/DSiWare days. He makes himself look the fool for not knowing how things have changed.
He's expressing his fucking opinion. I understand the hatred for him when he was an ass hole to the guy from Japan, but the grudges GAF seems to hold for some people/issues and not for others is unsettling. What exactly are any of you considering ass holish about his statement here? He won't release Fez on a Nintendo platform because they weren't conducive to indies in the past. I don't begrudge someone who holds such a view. Neither do I for someone who decides to give Nintendo a second chance.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Ass or not, you all still played Fez so I guess the joke's on us.
We all won. Happy end.
Sony's been doing that and more for a long time now.
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Way to keep that douche image alive, Phil..
Glass Rebel
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Their requirements are lighter and patch cert less expensive (free) than on XBLA though.
Do developers/publishers still have to pay for bandwith? Genuine question.
frankie_baby
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oh well its not like i haven't got plenty of indie devs with games comng to wii u to give my money too (and a few i already have)
peanutbutterlatte
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But he later admits he's not publishing it because he doesn't have the money to do a port. It's not some sort of statement against Nintendo, he's fucking broke.
I sure as hell didn't, and probably won't.Ass or not, you all still played Fez so I guess the joke's on us.
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