I'm not debating the whole package, I'm debating the gameplay which is what every other component of the package is built around. Everything that is built, the modes, presentation, commentary, either lead you back to playing the game or enhance the gameplay experience. In the end, gameplay is fundamental. This is why games like ryse are judged to be poor games. Amazing package but it's a poor game, why? Gameplay. Unfortunately, fifa is a poor game. If you wrap a turd in a beautiful package, does it make it not a turd?
there you go again, if this isnt fanboy comment then i dont know what is. i have said many times they both have their pros and cons, you on the other hand keep saying fifa is shit, which is not the case, at all. fifa has the better presentation, the teams, the online, the community, something PES doesnt have, at least at fifas level. PES could take some ideas from fifa just like fifa can take from pes, gameplay is subjective, dont try to make you OPINION FACT like you have been trying to do all this time.
Fifa is far from a shitty game, if you dont know how to play it or how things work then ask or find out before making dumb assumptions based on what? on a game you havent played cause it hasnt come out. I think PES 2014 was better than fifa 14, many will disagree, you probably think pes 2014 was crap, i thought it was great. PES is a great game no doubt, but IMO, its not better than fifa.
You can be mad all you want, fact is, fifa outsells pes every year 10:1, even fifa street outsells PES. What was once a gerat football franchise, was left behind by incompetent developers who failed to listen to their fans and couldnt adapt to a new console generation. Fifa has and will continue to do so, in the meanwhile, since i run a games page here in my country, i will be playing both and objectively reviewing both of them.
Remember, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
either way, just wait for pes if you dont want to play fifa, am done with this discussion. its fifa time for me.