The Elite
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The bad reactions are from an obnoxious subset of the gaming community that tends to shit on everything.
The game will sell well as always and the good PR they get from this will go a long way.
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FIFA 16 Trailer: Women's National Teams are in
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The bad reactions are from an obnoxious subset of the gaming community that tends to shit on everything.
The game will sell well as always and the good PR they get from this will go a long way.
They can add them to expand their audience base for all I care. My problem with EA is their lack of major improvements in the gameplay department.
DOBERMAN INC
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Great addition to the game, hopefully this leads to female club football too.
Give us 5-a-side indoor next.
Give us 5-a-side indoor next.
A scrimmage? That's no evidence, that's a practice match. To be clear, I'm not saying there are physical and competitive differences between men and women's soccer, but I am saying that citing a scrimmage as evidence is faulty. By the same coin, the MLS All Stars beat Bayern Munich at last years friendly, therefore MLS is clearly as competitive as the Bundesliga. See? That too made no sense.
Yep. Fifa is a mediocre game at best. The lack of alternative options is what continues to excuse it.
But to the people citing this as a reason why Fifa gameplay isn't getting improvements, I wonder how long they've been playing Fifa lol. Fifa has been like this since 2002
I see your point but... there is really no point to really argue about men vs. women on the pitch. They don't play the same game. When the womens team is in the gym lifting or on the field sprinting, they are preparing to face other women, not men. Judging them on how they preform against men doesn't really prove anything at all.
Like, no one should be looking for a favorable result in a Men vs. Women game to justify the women's league. That's like saying Allyson Felix isn't fast because Usain Bolt is much much faster.
Hans.Gruber
Banned
In America they probably do. But in Europe not so much. Watching a WC Final doesn't tell you much about interest. It's the league play that is important in football and makes up 90% of the revenue. And so far, women's football isn't even in the same ballpark as the 3rd tier men's league (here in Germany) in terms of attendance and revenue.
It will get better of course, but so far the womens game is not big enough to function as a big reveal goodie. EA sent the message "this year we added women. Full stop." with the reveal, so of course some gamers will get mad.
Most fans were hoping to see gameplay and graphic updates. This trailer - the first for FIFA 16 - isn't meant for them, unfortunately.
Led_Zeppelin
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Because men have been playing professional football for over 90 years (and in some countries for much more than that) and in amateur form from over 120 years or more, there has been World cups since 1930. And the biggest clubs in the world are over 100 years old. On the other side Women's WC has been a thing since 1991 and the nations that are good at them (outside of Germany) are nations that don't have a competitive male NT. Also there is no professional women league in most countries and if they are (like in the biggest football nations) they are eclipsed in its entirely by the male professional league.
I think the only market where the female WC and or professional league gets any coverage in news and media in regular form is the US. Under those conditions is no wonder that the interest for women's football is almost no existent outside of the US.
Voltreffer
Banned
i think we can agree that having a hypothetical discussion has indeed no sense.
About the caring point, i don't think anyone says nobody cares. Yet the number means absolutely nothing in relation to Fifa the game. Next to that womens football in Europe and the US are to completely different things. Therefore the comments about Ea introducing this after the recent up stets Fifa went trough i can actually understands the comment. And i am myself having big doubts if i will buy or support this version of the game.
I agree, and I was actually responding to someone that said "nobody cares about womens football" Lol :
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
i cant wait for the next homoerotic fifa thread
will it match salsa's thread, i wonder?
will it match salsa's thread, i wonder?
This was a long time coming. They finally did it.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
if Mia Hamm is in this game
pound for pound she should be the best player
pound for pound she should be the best player
Americanmushroom
Banned
Man this thread,.. Better grab the popcorn.
The Elite
BOSS
Imagine being in 5th grade, lol
Honestly, you think they will really care?
I have heard players actually do comment on ratings in these games.
But like I said, they will be rated separately. No other way to do it.
Incorrect. As a self-proclaimed football gaming connoisseur, 02 was a brand new engine then that failed horribly. FIFA 15 is a refined version of 09.
It explains the gap in popularity in Europe/South America.
Now for the USWMNT and your Serena Williams example, I'd say if Federer (during his dominant run), or one of the Klitschko brothers (using another dying sport in America) and the German Mens National team were American, it would be a completely different story in America.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
Imagine being in 5th grade, lol
Honestly, you think they will really care?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBDReZkbHk
This is nothing new.
Well, threads like this are good to expose what people consider rational thought for what it really is...
You can be misogynistic or insecure or w/e but just don't try to disguise as objective reason.
Just say something like,
"Well, as a I man, I feel uncomfortable with women being in Fifa. Why? I dunno, I just do"
I respect that a lot more than,
"This is factual evidence that no one likes women! (not my opinion)!
No, just that the market isn't big enough, otherwise they would make it a quick cash grab tie in with the wc, be it a standalone game or in more recent years as DLC.
I'm not too mad as the game isn't worse because of this I doubt they put serious development time into this.
But still, it's like NFL releasing with European national teams, it creates discussion
You know that EA includes the national teams, at least a big bunch of them, regardless if there is a WC edition the same year or not ?
This isn't even possible, unless we are talking about PES quality like keepers.
bigboss370
Member
Will we be able to play women's teams againt the men teams? Will we be able to make trades so you could have a mixed custom team? I wants.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Oh my god EA, don't put new stuff into your game! All we ever wanted was the same game but with slightly better graphics, updated rosters and bug fixes! Nobody ever wanted new stuff in their FIFA game!
Just fix the bugs, update the rosters and release a new game every year for 60, that's all everybody wants!
Just fix the bugs, update the rosters and release a new game every year for 60, that's all everybody wants!
Yes, this is sarcasm in case you were wondering.
But that's not my point lol. We wouldn't be cheering an American Federer because he's "not a woman", we would be cheering him because he dominates. We aren't cheering Serena because she's not a man, we are cheering her because she wins. If the USWMNT was a crappy team, they would have far less support, period.
The main deciding factor is performance, everything else is secondary and tertiary
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. These are the same athletes who cry on twitter if someone says a bad word about them in the papers...
There absolutely should be a female on the cover along with Messi and whoever the regional player is
aggro crag
Member
Yeah, some of the response to this thread are wack as fuck. I'm just going to post a couple ideas I think should be included in the game since Women's National Teams are getting added.
Female refs would be really welcome for both men and women's matches. Include female coaches and scouts in career mode. I think female scouts is more than reasonable, since scouts just appear as names with star ratings attached to them. For career mode, since we can already receive offers to manage Men's National Teams, I think it would be really cool to also get offers from Women's Teams as well.
For future iterations, I think it'd be dope to eventually get women's clubs and ultimate team.
Female refs would be really welcome for both men and women's matches. Include female coaches and scouts in career mode. I think female scouts is more than reasonable, since scouts just appear as names with star ratings attached to them. For career mode, since we can already receive offers to manage Men's National Teams, I think it would be really cool to also get offers from Women's Teams as well.
For future iterations, I think it'd be dope to eventually get women's clubs and ultimate team.
The Elite
BOSS
I bet Europe will have Messi only but I think NA will get a female player in there as well.
Does FIFA have female refs for games with men?
bigboss370
Member
I would be surprised if this didn't happen honestly.
HarryKS
Member
Why?
Not saying it's a bad thing. But what's the logic behind it? In terms of appeal to the fanbase?
Probably a toss up between Morgan and Wambach which makes me sad...
Lloyd is not the hero we deserve.. but the she is the one we need right now.
The Elite
BOSS
There was a still showing gameplay mocap somewhere in this thread.
Using male mocap for women makes no sense.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
What actually offends me is that EA & FIFA are the twin children of the Devil but now I have to grudgingly acknowledge that they did something nice for a change!
Bring on the women, flood gaming with estrogen and when we find the naysayers, we can deport them to create a better world
Have Alex and Messi high five each other on the box art or something, the misogynists will melt...
Bring on the women, flood gaming with estrogen and when we find the naysayers, we can deport them to create a better world
Have Alex and Messi high five each other on the box art or something, the misogynists will melt...
Led_Zeppelin
Member
They are being funny, but if you read football releated news and interviews and what not. You will know that the majority of players since the 90's play at some way or another FIFA since the megadrive only days or PES since the PS2 era (which PES was THE football game). Players always talk how they like to distend and play videogames (mostly FIFA/PES) and that they discuss about the rating on the game and how accurate or inaccurate they are. Again it is nothing new for anyone that follows football, after all FIFA/PES have transcendent the niche of videogames a long time ago and even people that never owned a console are most likely to have played this games with friends at one point or another.
Voltreffer
Banned
Wait what? It is people like you who make this kind of behavior possible. It sickens me.
The implantation of women football in Fifa is totally wrong. They should not be equal to men, not in rating, movement, any form of the game. Is it therefore strange that people are complaining they won't buy it? No it isn't.
Not to mention the popularity question over here in Europe. Hence people will have other priorities and expectations from it.
I thought notable animators said that male can mocap for in-game females fine when the AC: Unity stuff happened.
It's mostly running after all.
It's a pretty huge addition to the series and they should promote it as best they can. What better way than to put a female player on the box along with Messi
Press needs to earn her stripes. She's goes from brilliant to awkward way too often on the pitch. However, as a pure striker she has more selfishness than morgan or leroux combined, and that is a good thing.
That too