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FIFA 17 |OT| We're all Alex Hunter

KingSnake said:
I think there is actually a middle ground for this "input delay" argument. Marc^o^ is right when he talks about physics influencing the game and that you can't just pass or shoot anywhere no matter how your player is positioned or in motion. Just like in the real football you just can't shoot or pass immediately if you need first to turn or set/stop the ball properly. That's why I argued that PES is much more of an arcade game for example. And that's fine. I like that FIFA tries to do these things closer to the real football.

I also understand that some people just want to mash buttons and the game to immediately respond to that with no limitation. It's not even about skills, it's about what people find to be fun. It's like with the racing games, some people prefer simulation other people prefer arcade and complain about the controls in the simulation racers. This is not trowing shade at anybody, it's really about preferences.

Now, FIFA is far from perfect with this "delayed input" because sometimes it just can't run the animations at the same speed like the actual game and you end up with a shot after you pressed the button 10 seconds ago. And that's wrong. I think there should be a threshold and the game should not do the action pass a certain amount of time because it becomes stupid.

So I like the way FIFA does it, but I wish they would polish it more.
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After all the back and forth about input delay, I'm glad someone posted a level headed argument. I totally agree with this because there is an attempt by EA to keep it from being a button mashing fest which is admirable but the implementation of it definitely leaves something to be desired.
 
TheGraykid said:
I've experienced the game. I understand that there's a certain amount of RNG, in the game, like once in a million shots Phil Jones will score an absolute screamer from 50 yards out. I've watched League 1 games where amazing feats of skill occur.
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I don't think that is the problem here. I have no problem when my opponent shows flashes of amazing skill even when they have a terrible team ; The issue i have is when your own team plays like shit. I've played fifa for many years now so I'm not the worst player in the world, I've completed most of the skill challenges with gold rankings so I know how to place a weighted pass and how to direct a shot, yet I've had far too many games to count in which even my most gifted players will play like dog shit.

I understand that this can happen in real life (we only have to look at the Iceland v England match to see how a group of gifted players can play like crap) but this isn't real life, and Ultimate Team especially is based around obtaining the best players to help improve your squad, which is totally pointless if the game suddenly decides to make them play terribly for you.
 
So.. it's an alright FIFA it appears. I'm enjoying it. FUT is still trash but that's what all my friends are playing unfortunately.

So if anyone wants to play regular 1 vs 1 matches online.. please let me know! I'd like to play against some GAF users. I'm not that great but not that bad either.. I'm on PS4.
 
What's that bizarre puff of smoke effect/animation you get on the pitch when it's a bit overcast? Looks ridiculous.
(Supposed to be breath)
 
God, I hate this game. I haven't tried multiplayer yet but single player is atrocious.

Passes just seem random in where they go and I've pretty much stopped using through balls now because even though it's Ozil they will still just hit an opposition player straight in front of him even though I was holding up.

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but my players just don't seem to want to do headed clearances half the time anymore. I hold X to do a headed pass away from my goal but instead of them doing that they'll try and control it on their chest for some reason and even though they are professional football players they apparently can't control for shit and will instead bounce it to an opposition player in our box. Holding circle isn't any better as they still just won't clear it sometimes instead they'll control it terribly off their chest and then because I was holding circle and they lost control of the ball they'll go to ground giving away a penalty in the 90th minute...

Again I don't know if I'm doing something wrong but it seems almost impossible sometimes to actually tackle or pressure the ball from players when they are near the box. So many times I've had Mustafi or Koscielny just be held off by a player half their size is ridiculous and of course this happens on the wing where they'll cross it in and then my players will just chest it back to them instead of heading it.

I'm actually ashamed I bought this game instead of getting Pes, after hearing about its low sales I feel I let it down as I'm positive it's the better game.
 
Jesus, dont know how i got through this game but I'll take it!
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On to the semis!
 
idonteven said:
the input delay is making me so angry when some dude gets the ball from me when it takes a good 1-2 sec to pass the ball sometimes and everything becomes slow as fuck


Was 3-0 up yesterday and out of nowhere my players because super slow,took ages to pass the ball and could not defend for shit...result 3-2

still won but it was super super close
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classic fifa scripting for that ass.
 
Wait... squad builder challenges means swapping everyone in the squad I'm submitting for a fucking loan player? Oops, I just gave away my entire first team because I didn't read it, I thought it was cool. Now it's clearly just another way to get you to buy coins. Back to the drawing board for me. Sigh
 
weekev said:
Wait... squad builder challenges means swapping everyone in the squad I'm submitting for a fucking loan player? Oops, I just gave away my entire first team because I didn't read it, I thought it was cool. Now it's clearly just another way to get you to buy coins. Back to the drawing board for me. Sigh
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I just got Harry Kane in a pack that i earned for submitting a a gold non rare team. Not bad.

A quick FYI . Iv'e read on the forums that there's a glitch with the single player difficulty in ultimate team, apparently the game sets the difficulty to what ever your default difficulty was set as when you first started the game no matter what level you play at. Which is why iv'e been finding ultimate team so damned hard because my default was Legendary! To stop this, just go back to the main menu and tone down the difficulty and you should find games to be much easier to cope with.
 
Maximus P said:
I just got Harry Kane in a pack that i earned for submitting a a gold non rare team. Not bad.

A quick FYI . Iv'e read on the forums that there's a glitch with the single player difficulty in ultimate team, apparently the game sets the difficulty to what ever your default difficulty was set as when you first started the game no matter what level you play at. Which is why iv'e been finding ultimate team so damned hard because my default was Legendary! To stop this, just go back to the main menu and tone down the difficulty and you should find games to be much easier to cope with.
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So put it on amateur, go on FUT and pick highest rated teams for extra coins for minimal effort you say ? Hmmm.
 
Is there a guide on how to get better at defending and playmaking at this game? I upgraded to professional from semi-pro in The Journey and I find it extremely difficult to get the ball off the AI. They seem to always be able to turn their back to me and make me unable to get the ball from them, even though they can easily take it from me if I try to do the same. If I try to apply pressure to the opponent with one of my defenders that usually leaves a hole that the AI immediately exploits. Making good plays is also really hard to do as the defenders dont seem to get baited into doing anything.
 
Onemic said:
Is there a guide on how to get better at defending and playmaking at this game? I upgraded to professional from semi-pro in The Journey and I find it extremely difficult to get the ball off the AI. They seem to always be able to turn their back to me and make me unable to get the ball from them, even though they can easily take it from me if I try to do the same. If I try to apply pressure to the opponent with one of my defenders that usually leaves a hole that the AI immediately exploits. Making good plays is also really hard to do as the defenders dont seem to get baited into doing anything.
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I usually play in 3-5-2, high on the field with a pressing tactic activated in defense. Then use use L2/LT to block off options combined with L1/LB to have an AI player pressure. You have to read the game as much as you can, and go for 1st touch controls.

Watch some other tips in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQNyuczbh4
 
anyone has tips for best formation to play on pro clubs withouth any (lag makes it impossible)? we usually play 3 to 4 friends.
 
In Journey, first you pick your favorite team, then after a while you get to choose which team to sign for. I picked Arsenal for favorite, and started playing for Leicester. Will there be a point where you can sign for an another team, besides going out on loan?
 
HOLY SHIT! Did that basic gold upgrade squad builder challenge and got this card from the TWO player card along with Coquelin

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marc^o^ said:
I usually play in 3-5-2, high on the field with a pressing tactic activated in defense. Then use use L2/LT to block off options combined with L1/LB to have an AI player pressure. You have to read the game as much as you can, and go for 1st touch controls.

Watch some other tips in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neQNyuczbh4
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Thanks, I actually have no idea how to do first touch. I also dont know how to do things like pushing the ball up so you can run faster down the field.
 
As is the case every year, I assume all the complaints are from people playing on Assisted without changing sliders?
Not saying their complaints aren't valid btw...

How does it play on full Manual? I absolutely loved 16 on Manual/Slow.
 
LNBL said:
HOLY SHIT! Did that basic gold upgrade squad builder challenge and got this card from the TWO player card along with Coquelin
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Nice pull.

I actually quite like the fact that you can't trade these cards becuase i'd be too tempted to sell them on for a quick profit

I've had some great cards from the gold upgrade packs,

Eriksen
Cavani
bellerin
Coman
Rashford
Walcott

I've suggested to friends just starting the game mode to work on opening a few of these packs with cheap gold cards and then to build a team around the players they pull.
 
SomedayTheFire said:
I really really dislike this game. They've made offline play even worse.
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Yeah, offline is pants.

Anything over professional difficulty and you end up watching the ball get passed around constantly for large periods of the game. There just seems to be no variation in the AI play style no matter what the opponent weather it be Real Madrid or Newport County.
 
Maximus P said:
Yeah, offline is pants.

Anything over professional difficulty and you end up watching the ball get passed around constantly for large periods of the game. There just seems to be no variation in the AI play style no matter what the opponent weather it be Real Madrid or Newport County.
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I could have fun winding down playing this last year. I like to have a career game going just for fun. But jesus I am having absolutely no fun with this at all.
 
Maximus P said:
Yeah, offline is pants.

Anything over professional difficulty and you end up watching the ball get passed around constantly for large periods of the game. There just seems to be no variation in the AI play style no matter what the opponent weather it be Real Madrid or Newport County.
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So they all play a very possession based, short passing game? I noticed this as soon as I went up to professional.
 
Maximus P said:
I just got Harry Kane in a pack that i earned for submitting a a gold non rare team. Not bad.

A quick FYI . Iv'e read on the forums that there's a glitch with the single player difficulty in ultimate team, apparently the game sets the difficulty to what ever your default difficulty was set as when you first started the game no matter what level you play at. Which is why iv'e been finding ultimate team so damned hard because my default was Legendary! To stop this, just go back to the main menu and tone down the difficulty and you should find games to be much easier to cope with.
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I don't think it overwrites it. I just played a match on Ultimate with my thing set to beginner and it was definitely Ultimate.
 
TehGoomba said:
I don't think it overwrites it. I just played a match on Ultimate with my thing set to beginner and it was definitely Ultimate.
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I'm not sure if it works like that.

I think the game sets it what ever your default difficulty was as a minimum.

In my case Default was Legendary so even amateur opponents would be legendary. Ultimate would still be Ultimate in your case.

Here is the thread I saw it discussed in earlier-

https://fifaforums.easports.com/en/discussion/182678/starter-cup-glitch

It's kind of confusing but the general consensus is that you should always check the difficulty level before any match and set it to the lowest possible, as the game seems to be putting games at higher difficulty settings by default.
 
Maximus P said:
Nice pull.

I actually quite like the fact that you can't trade these cards becuase i'd be too tempted to sell them on for a quick profit

I've had some great cards from the gold upgrade packs,

Eriksen
Cavani
bellerin
Coman
Rashford
Walcott

I've suggested to friends just starting the game mode to work on opening a few of these packs with cheap gold cards and then to build a team around the players they pull.
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Same, pulled:

Koke
Vertonghen
Benattia
And the costa if

Wouldnhave certainly sold costa for a good profit, but he's actually nice to play with
 
The UT weekend champion comp is hard-core.40 matches?... In a weekend?. The rewards are great, but I'm not willing to spend the entire weekend playing fifa.
 
Maximus P said:
The UT weekend champion comp is hard-core.40 matches?... In a weekend?. The rewards are great, but I'm not willing to spend the entire weekend playing fifa.
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You only need to play five matches to be ranked iirc. Don't need to play all 40 to be eligible to receive rewards. Though more wins result in better rewards ofc.
 
Minor complaint, and I know you can easily avoid them, but what did they think with regards to the default goal celebrations? I don't think I have more than 2-3 times of my entire life of watching football live and on tv seen goals been celebrated by involving the corner flag. And I've watched plenty of football.
 
What are some good 4 star teams to play with for head to head? I don't play FUT and I have no interest in playing the same 5 star team every time.
 
don't know if i'm just that bad..but i can't seem to get good at this game,at least against the cpu..my players feel sluggish and unresponsive as hell..they don't so runs and it's pretty much impossible to past the cpu opponents..and i'm not even playing at legend...
 
Mugen08 said:
Minor complaint, and I know you can easily avoid them, but what did they think with regards to the default goal celebrations? I don't think I have more than 2-3 times of my entire life of watching football live and on tv seen goals been celebrated by involving the corner flag. And I've watched plenty of football.
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Have you played online at all? I would say I've played 30 matches online now and out of those matches around 28 of them used the 'dab' as the celebration.
 
timewyrm said:
Question: My team has an 81 rating (almost every player between 82-84). I'm not sure how to upgrade each position now.

E.g. my RB is Ivanovic (80); should I upgrade to (e.g.) Juanfran for 4k or just save up for Alves/ Lahm at this point ?
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Didnt see the E.g.
 
Well well well. Just been doing the journey.
what a load of shit. Just ending with an England call up! Did I miss something??
 
Picked this up yesterday and had a few warm up matches whilst it installed then jumped straight into the journey. This is my first fifa since fifa 14 when ps4 launched.

I am loving the new corner controls, makes it much more intuitive and effective. Defending is taking some getting used to. Especially when only playing as Hunter. Annoying to watch your defence just keep dropping back and not putting a foot in.

The journey is brilliant. Just made it to the first game of season. I come on at 1-1 score 1 and setup another help us to a 4-1 win.
 
I'm hooked, best Fifa in years. The amount of random things that happen on the pitch is unprecedent in a football game. I love the pace, the new passes.

I need to start The Journey someday, if I ever lose my online connexion.
 
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