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FIFA 2018/2022 World Cup Announcement
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ConfusingJazz
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aktham said:
Right, that's why only 22 voters voted yesterday, rather then the scheduled 24.
Why was that?
2 of them got busted for taking bribes.
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
aktham said:
It is through common sense. The Qatari delegation was getting congratulated before the vote was known. They knew their oil money had gone through.
By your logic, only big countries should host a major sporting event.ConfusingJazz said:
It fails to register when the second biggest sporting event in the world (olympic games) are held in a single city.
Size, population, who cares? What matters is, "will it be good" and only the players can do something about it.
In the end, a lot of american crying in here, deal with it, you got :
- 1980 : Winter olympic games
- 1984 : Summer olympic games
- 1994 : Football WC
- 1996 : Summer olympic games
- 2002 : Winter olympic games
In short, learn to share. Also, you know what's ironic? Most of those events happened in the state with huge relents of corruption (well, it was prety much confirmed for Salt Lake :lol)
Regarding other middle eastern countries:
Turkey will never get the world cup, because they're in UEFA. The Europeans will never sacrifice a European world cup for them.
Egypt and the countries of the Maghreb will never get the world cup because they're in CAF. Westerners will never give them an "African world cup" because they're not black enough to fit their stereotype of an "African".
As for countries in the AFC. The obvious candidates for hosting like Iraq, Syria, Iran and Saudi will never be allowed to host for obvious reasons.
So that leaves the field open for the likes of Qatar.
And here's the key point, this world cup is all about the wider region. It's as close as we're going to get to host the world cup. It's a joint offshore hosting if you will.
You can bet that millions of Saudis, gulfies, Iraqis, and Iranians will be coming over to watch.
Regarding technical aspects:
I've looked at the bid evaluation, it was not weak by any means. What it was though is revolutionary, a completely different hosting concept. If Qatar pull it off, I think it will be the best World Cup ever. Compact and intimate. None of that BS of playing each match in a different city like a travelling circus. you're not constantly on the road. Instead, you can settle down in one place and follow the whole tournament from there. The fans of all 32 nations will be in the same place, so the atmosphere is much more concentrated.
It's going to be epic.
Turkey will never get the world cup, because they're in UEFA. The Europeans will never sacrifice a European world cup for them.
Egypt and the countries of the Maghreb will never get the world cup because they're in CAF. Westerners will never give them an "African world cup" because they're not black enough to fit their stereotype of an "African".
As for countries in the AFC. The obvious candidates for hosting like Iraq, Syria, Iran and Saudi will never be allowed to host for obvious reasons.
So that leaves the field open for the likes of Qatar.
And here's the key point, this world cup is all about the wider region. It's as close as we're going to get to host the world cup. It's a joint offshore hosting if you will.
You can bet that millions of Saudis, gulfies, Iraqis, and Iranians will be coming over to watch.
Regarding technical aspects:
I've looked at the bid evaluation, it was not weak by any means. What it was though is revolutionary, a completely different hosting concept. If Qatar pull it off, I think it will be the best World Cup ever. Compact and intimate. None of that BS of playing each match in a different city like a travelling circus. you're not constantly on the road. Instead, you can settle down in one place and follow the whole tournament from there. The fans of all 32 nations will be in the same place, so the atmosphere is much more concentrated.
It's going to be epic.
L0st Id3ntity
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Well then it's hypocrisy, pretending to have a good future intent for a country your loathing for winning the bid.Alucrid said:
FIFA doesn't like multi bids. Nobody else in the region is up for it.ConfusingJazz said:
sazabirules
Unconfirmed Member
Yousefb said:
Because Qatar had the worst bid out of all of them. What's the point in the countries with the best bids applying when it doesn't get them the WC? Evaluating the bids is pointless.
ConfusingJazz
Member
Fularu said:
NBC paid $894 million to broadcast the China games, and another $2.2 billion for the 2010 and 2012 Games. We pretty much finance the IOC, so yeah, we should get more.
And I know, I have already said we were better at this before the 2002 SLC Olympics. Now, we can't play that game anymore, but Russia and the Middle East certainly can.
And while the Olympics are single city events, all of the cities have bigger populations then Qatar.
L0st Id3ntity said:
Oh, I know, they abhor it.
Dr Zhivago
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It's clear the voting for World Cups need to change. Every national association should get a vote, then each vote is worth less and you wouldn't get the likes of Jack Warner becoming powerbrokers.
Chances of Blatter agreeing to this : 0%.
Chances of Blatter agreeing to this : 0%.
L0st Id3ntity
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:lolConfusingJazz said:
Sorry I forgot the footballing demographic I'm addressing here, I should've gone through every little detail in my post.
FIFA president Sepp Blatter has said that single bids are likely to get preference over joint ones when the hosts for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups are decided.
ConfusingJazz
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L0st Id3ntity said:
Trust me, Qatar could have gotten around that.
Harry_Tequila
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I love that people are now sticking up for FIFA and suggesting that they aren't corrupt/don't take bribes. One of the most corrupt organisations on the planet. So much naivety.
Amazing.
Amazing.
ConfusingJazz
Member
hxa155 said:
2002 SLC Olympics and tougher anti bribing laws in both countries since Enron.
ConfusingJazz
Member
Fularu said:
No, because this happens: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/business/worldbusiness/27settle.html
Gareth Bale
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Fularu said:
Is this fun for you?
gutter_trash
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so they have 12 years to build hotels, restaurants and Air Conditionned Stadiums
then have fun with empty stadiums after the WC is done
lol
then have fun with empty stadiums after the WC is done
lol
Gareth Bale
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Fularu said:
No sorry, I should have been more clear. I meant is it fun making shit up like "The UK spent all its money on the London Olympics". Because there is no way you can substantiate that.
ConfusingJazz
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Fularu said:
In the meantime, Western Europe has had 6 major sporting events, 7 if you count Athens.
Western Europe isn't a single entity, it's a patchwork of nations. No one feels "delighted" that Germany gets the world cup in Spain, they prety much don't give a fuck.ConfusingJazz said:
On the other hand, the US are a single nation and got more major sporting events than ANY other nation in the world in the past 32 years, the crying is unwaranted and the number of people somehow believing that because they are the United States of fucking America, they are somehow better than the rest of the world and deserve it more.
This just in, you don't
At least football is the number one sport in Qatar, can't say as much for Australia.vanty said:
Also, timezones probably played a part, no one wants a repeat of the 2002 WC
fizzelopeguss
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Fularu said:
Ahhh there we go.
ConfusingJazz
Member
Fularu said:
Fuck it, we are submitting bids for California, Texas, the North East, the Midwest, and the South East.
Yousefb said:
-Similar position to the world cup in 1994 with the US; nation dominated by other sports but with enough room for soccer
-Much better infrastructure than Qatar
-Better weather than Qatar
-Proven track record with hosting events
-Stadiums that exist today. Some would need to be built, but in a pinch they could use some of the AFL/cricket stadiums
-Larger desire for tourism/caters to more travelers
Yeah, the whole timezone thing, but the great counter argument was that it would be perfect for China's (and maybe India's) emerging middle class.
People are talking about how it's sort of a victory for the entire middle east, and I get that, but I just don't see how the experience is going to be better than any of the other nations on the bid. The stadiums seem cool, but I'd rather have a country to explore. I like the air conditioned metro links, but I'd like to be able to play pickup games without dying.
Gareth Bale
Member
Fularu said:
That was way too easy.
If people want to see butthurt, this is butthurt right here.
When each one of them is a different nation, go for it. That's what they do for England, Scotland and co.ConfusingJazz said:
Actually no, I didn't want Paris to host the Olympic Games and was prety glad for London when they got themBungieware said:
ESPECIALLY right after the bombings
I like when these things goes to new countries. They tend to have another thirst than USA and Europe. Sure, Europe and USA are great but they will not go to the financial and visionary extremes like China for instance did with the Olympics in 2008. I think Qatar, can give us something special, not like your ordinary world cup. Let England have some future euro cup again but seriously, i think its awesome that Qatar and the middle east got it!
Laughing Banana
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Harry_Tequila said:
What is also funny is the sentiments in this thread insinuating that the only party playing bribes is Qatar, while the rest of the bidding nations are as clean as an angel.
And how Qatar must be denounced from its victory because of its bribery, as if the other losing bidders are not trying to bribe FIFA at all in the first place.
What a goddamn joke.
Squirrel Killer
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As an American, I just want to note that my bitching about the World Cup host selections have centered on Russia, not Qatar.Fularu said:
Now if UEFA would just stop acting THAT special, really, when it comes to the World Cup, that would be a nice counterpart to how the US has basically pulled all of it's Olympic bids for the foreseeable future.
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