irfaanator
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yea. I'd also see everybody going for them safe combos or not doing that fancy shit
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Fighting Games Weekly | Apr 13-19 | This Netkode Is An Injustice
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yea. I'd also see everybody going for them safe combos or not doing that fancy shit
Woah woah...
They are banning select plinks at EVO? I am late to this news, can anyone fill me in?
CountBlack
Member
PS4 won't allow it apparently
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I thought it was only for three years
How so? Who revealed this information?
CountBlack
Member
I think the Select button is mapped to something else on the PS4 software?
I remember the top players talking about this right when Evo announced it'll be the PS4 ver for Evo
El Sabroso
Member
I thought it was 5, which isn't in time yet
it think its the touchpad, which most fighting sticks do not support
Touchpad usually substitutes for the Select button in most games.
Though thinking about it, it's very possible that select plinking might not be in the game. Capcom could've used this opportunity to remove it from the game yet pass the blame on the PS4 ("but it wouldn't have been possible on the PS4 anyway!").
Though thinking about it, it's very possible that select plinking might not be in the game. Capcom could've used this opportunity to remove it from the game yet pass the blame on the PS4 ("but it wouldn't have been possible on the PS4 anyway!").
Did not know this... you said "most" so you are saying that some do support it?
yes, but only in top 8. there will be a referee observing the players' eyes during the matches.
well, there's like 2 Hori sticks i know of that has them and one of them is not out yet. I don't know any madcatz ones that does.
Oh man that would be so good.
Even though it will be a side tournament there will be a lot of strong players there. Cafe Id will be helping stream so MADkof and crew will probably be there. Xiao Hai and Tokido will be there for SF4 so they might enter as well. Not to mention Misterio, Luis Cha etc. This could be big.
Yeah, 5 years was the number mentioned before but I doubt he would mention it now if there wasn't a chance.
Juicebox_FGC
Member
There is no "select" button on an official PS4 controller.
The Hori FC4 (compatible on both PS3 and PS4) has a "share" button where select would be.
My guess is that there is no definition for a "select" input on PS4, but programmers can decide to use the touchpad-click instead. I'm also guessing that the PS4 port of SF4 did not involve reprogramming an input that wasn't intended...
The Hori FC4 (compatible on both PS3 and PS4) has a "share" button where select would be.
My guess is that there is no definition for a "select" input on PS4, but programmers can decide to use the touchpad-click instead. I'm also guessing that the PS4 port of SF4 did not involve reprogramming an input that wasn't intended...
Yeah, I know it's expensive as hell, I just don't know how much he has to pay out of pocket.
Buttons can be remapped via the PS4 OS itself. So I imagine they'll just take advantage of that. If they can't... then they're gonna have to suck it up and plink the old way.
MiniBossBattle
Member
I laughed but then again I think James Chens jokes are the best too.
I'll see myself out as well.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
So apparently a lot of the frame data listed in MKX is straight up wrong.
Not sure how a developer manages to do that.
Not sure how a developer manages to do that.
Daigo and Bonchan probably not so much, since they are also arcade players which probably makes it as easy as changing pants. I'd be more worried about the players that are used to console play + select plinking.
Come to Toronto and help me vf just like oichi did
i swear i've heard that you can actually select plink on arcade cabs with the start button
though the viability of that is something else entirely i guess
Got all my EVO shit booked. Goin Wednesday til Monday.
What's your plan?
CountBlack
Member
I'm getting there Thursday morning til Monday
not sure if I'm trynna get straight goofied the day before tho
Parallax Scroll
Banned
『Inaba Resident』;160562419 said:
IIRC Injustice had that problem.
MiniBossBattle
Member
I just purchased an hopefully getting a raspberry pie 2 with the plans to make my kids an mini arcade machine. Can I talk about emulating games on the device? I plan on installing only the games I own.
I want this.
I want this.
Is there still some sorta US GAF vs Canada GAF going down?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I thought they actually tied those values to in-game variables instead of exporting from framedata.xls this time around?『Inaba Resident』;160562419 said:
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
How the fuck does NRS manage to do this twice?
I have no idea. I'm just going by what I'm reading on various forums. For example, I see people talking about how some of Kung Jin's moves are supposed to be -6 on block yet they get blown up by 12 frame moves.
CountBlack
Member
I really want to get one started. Not sure how many other Canadian Gaffers that are going except for me you and Vulva.
Canada got this free tho
As I understand it, at least part of the issue is that in NRM games, some moves leave the opponent in a "hit" state, where after a certain number of frames, they can block high or low but can't take any other action. But the game still calls this "frame advantage" for the attacking player. It's dumb.『Inaba Resident』;160565065 said:
You can, I remember testing this out and being amused. From my understanding of it you don't need a select button exactly, you just need a button that the game registers as occurring but can't be assigned to a command. Select does this, in arcades start does this since it does nothing once you start playing.
Yeah this would solve a lot of bullshit. No way it will be in ultra but I hope 5 gets it.
Juicebox_FGC
Member
True hitsun by and large doesn't exist in NRS games. It's a way of simplifying the concept of a "combo".
Traditional method: Some of your moves grant enough time for you to combo other things if you practice.
MK method: X combos to Y pretty much always, just dial it in (including the special at the end). Frame data is still there for neutral situations, such as after you block a string will your d+1 win or will theirs. It also measures the length of staggers during which you can guarantee chip or position yourself favorably.
That said, the dash-cancel stuff does seem to be true hitstun for every character that can do it. And, probably 10% of the frame data numbers are still off.
Traditional method: Some of your moves grant enough time for you to combo other things if you practice.
MK method: X combos to Y pretty much always, just dial it in (including the special at the end). Frame data is still there for neutral situations, such as after you block a string will your d+1 win or will theirs. It also measures the length of staggers during which you can guarantee chip or position yourself favorably.
That said, the dash-cancel stuff does seem to be true hitstun for every character that can do it. And, probably 10% of the frame data numbers are still off.
CountBlack
Member
them 3 cr.lp's
Who are you rooming with?
US GAF attending EVO that play SF4 post up if you're down to get your shit pushed in.
This is really strange. Do counter hits exist in mkx and do they effect what can combo into what?
Juicebox_FGC
Member
No kounter-hits at all.
CountBlack
Member
Got a room with my cousin
dat cr.lp after f.lk. Time to retire the washed up King.
EDIT: This whole MKX framedata discussion reminds me of the P4A spin state, sans burst.
Blackenstein?
In SF4, if you press a button lower in the input priority chain (HK->HP->MK->MP->LK->LP->Select) on the frame after you press another button, it counts the "higher" button as being pressed two frames in a row. This means every link becomes 1 frame "longer." As you can imagine, this is really, really useful for characters with lots of tight links once you practice it.
Light attacks have the lowest priorities. So usually you can't plink them, but later people found out the select button is viable too and has lowest priority. So in the end light attacks are plinkable too. Thus the Bonchan remarks and cr.lp.