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Films that originally had different directors. The possibilities.

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Bit-Bit said:
Aronosky's Batman sounds like the worst idea ever.

I wished Kubrick was still alive to do AI. (though I still love the AI that we got) I just really like Kubrick's style of filming.

Maybe Nolan should do a reboot of A.I.
 
Jack Scofield said:
Most of these films probably would have been the same regardless of director. The only current director who I can think of who OWNS his movies is Tarantino. He has a style and flair that would completely be lost if another director directed one of his films.

But for others like Martin Scorsese? Anyone could've directed his films and no one would probably be able to tell a difference (well, maybe the editing wouldn't be so atrocious). And while Spielberg definitely has a certain style to him, it's so easily replicated that it means nothing anymore. Take Super 8, for example. If it was released in the '80s, EXACTLY how it is now and marketed as a Spielberg flick, no one would dispute it.

Hollywood is really in need of unique directors who can bring a special vision and talent to a project and not just hammer out a film by the numbers.

Whoa, whoa, back the fuck up. Have you seen Raging Bull or Taxi Driver?
 
Takao said:
Stephen Chow was originally going to direct Dragon Ball Evolution. He's the man FOX went after. However, he had commitments with CJ7 that made it difficult for him to feel like he could commit to the project. Instead we got James Wong, who probably shouldn't have directed that movie. We also got Stephen Chow producing ... oh wait nope, he had a temper tantrum and washed his hands of the film when he realized that being a producer gives you almost 0 input on the end product. Fantastic.

Oh, did I mention that Stephen Chow would later direct his own adaptation of Journey to the West (the legend that Dragon Ball is based upon) ?
Dragonball Evolution may have had a chance of being watchable with Chow directing.
 
SamVimes said:
Yeah, well, that's just like your opinion, man

yes it is. I find Nolan as robotic in his film making as Kubrick. There is a certain style which I cannot point to which I find very similar between the two. Perhaps it is the subtle emotions that they both evoke not from the characters but the audience.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
He really needs a tag of some sort to give people a heads up.

I dont even think that Willy's tag "motherfucking dumbshit member" would be sufficient. Hell, it is pretty unfair to Willy IMO, but would fit well with some other posters.
 
Atom Egoyan's There Will Be Blood.

(Nothing to do with the high quality of the film and the brilliant directing, but just to see it form another style and perspective)
 
icarus-daedelus said:
I like A.I. as is quite a lot, ending and all, but I don't think it is unreasonable to say that a version actually directed by Kubrick would have been interesting (and possibly superior to what we got.)

if you have seen the way Kubrick works he used to make sure the actors act the way he wanted. he controlled the actors the way he desired even moreso than the story itself. Case in point Shelly Duvall was practically pushed to the breaking point by Kubrick because he could not see the performance from her that he wanted.
 
Scullibundo said:
I don't know what you're trying to refer to, but Cameron was originally going to shoot

X-Men, Spider-Man (you can find his screenplay somewhere - he came up with the organic web shooters) and was closest to doing Planet of the Apes.

Please don't use this thread to exercise stupid opinions that peg A.I as anything other than an vastly underrated and under appreciated film.

AI was terribad.
 
A recent one is Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol. Instead of the great Brad Bird it was offered to Ruben Fleischer(Zombieland & 30 Minutes or Less) but he turned it downed because he thought he wasn't ready for such a big project..
 
AgentChris said:
A recent one is Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol. Instead of the great Brad Bird it was offered to Ruben Fleischer(Zombieland & 30 Minutes or Less) but he turned it downed because he thought he wasn't ready for such a big project..

Wow. Didn't know that. Of course, Brad Bird is the main reason I am so excited to see it.
 
Willy105 said:
I would have liked to see Burton's Superman movie.

No you don't....

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SamVimes said:
Harry Potter by Gilliam might have been really good.

Harry Potter by Spielberg sounded intriguing. It would've been an animated movie with Haley Joel Osment providing Harry's voice.
 
Guillermo del Toro was going to direct The Hobbit but the whole MGM situation delayed filming for a while then he left to do other things like Pacific Rim with Idris Elba. Peter Jackson is now directing The Hobbit.
 
Jack Scofield said:
Most of these films probably would have been the same regardless of director. The only current director who I can think of who OWNS his movies is Tarantino. He has a style and flair that would completely be lost if another director directed one of his films.

But for others like Martin Scorsese? Anyone could've directed his films and no one would probably be able to tell a difference (well, maybe the editing wouldn't be so atrocious). And while Spielberg definitely has a certain style to him, it's so easily replicated that it means nothing anymore. Take Super 8, for example. If it was released in the '80s, EXACTLY how it is now and marketed as a Spielberg flick, no one would dispute it.

Hollywood is really in need of unique directors who can bring a special vision and talent to a project and not just hammer out a film by the numbers.
I hope you're joking man.
 
GCX said:
Tales from the Earthsea by Hayao Miyazaki.

In the 80s Miyazaki asked Ursula Le Guin several times if he could direct a movie based on Tales from the Earthsea novels. Her answer was always no since Miyazaki was still a nobody outside Japan in the 80s.

Unfortunately she said yes when Goro Miyazaki asked to do the same thing two decades later.


LOL so this was the story. She deserted it 100%.
 
Lynne Ramsay was originally attached to The Lovely Bones. Her version would have been quite different from Peter Jackson's. I was disappointed when Ramsay left, but hopeful for Jackson. I expected something more along the lines of Heavenly Creatures, but was sadly mistaken.
 
AgentChris said:
Guillermo del Toro was going to direct The Hobbit but the whole MGM situation delayed filming for a while then he left to do other things like Pacific Rim with Idris Elba. Peter Jackson is now directing The Hobbit.

You left out the most disappointing part of that news: Del Toro was going to make At the Mountains of Madness with James Cameron producing, but Universal pulled the plug. THEN he went to make Pacific Rim.
 
tino said:
LOL so this was the story. She deserted it 100%.

She had reason to worry with what Sci-Fi channel did with their miniseries.

She saw Totoro later on, fell in love with it, and realized that's the guy who should do an adaptation. Such a shame it didn't work out.
 
TheExodu5 said:
I was really hoping Guillermo would be the one to direct it. I loved Pan's Labyrinth.

Pan's Labyrinth will probably be the next movie poster I have framed. It's beautiful.

icarus-daedelus said:
He really needs a tag of some sort to give people a heads up.

But that would be giving him what he wants.

Edit: Kubrick's take on AI would have been amazing to see, but I can't say I'm in the (large) camp with those who believe the Spielberg-helmed film we received is shit.
 
Jack Scofield said:
Most of these films probably would have been the same regardless of director. The only current director who I can think of who OWNS his movies is Tarantino. He has a style and flair that would completely be lost if another director directed one of his films.

But for others like Martin Scorsese? Anyone could've directed his films and no one would probably be able to tell a difference (well, maybe the editing wouldn't be so atrocious). And while Spielberg definitely has a certain style to him, it's so easily replicated that it means nothing anymore. Take Super 8, for example. If it was released in the '80s, EXACTLY how it is now and marketed as a Spielberg flick, no one would dispute it.

Hollywood is really in need of unique directors who can bring a special vision and talent to a project and not just hammer out a film by the numbers.

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Edmond Dantès said:
The Hobbit.

Would have been very interesting to see Guillermo's vision of the story and how much it would have differed from Peter's trilogy.

Del Toro's would have been much worse. Dude is a great art director, but not a great director.
 
Expendable. said:
Drive was originally going to star Hugh Jackman and directed by the terrible Neil Marshall. Thank god that didn't happen.

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Neil Marshall terrible? The fuck? Far from it. Also, I've been scratching my head for weeks now over why so many of you are lining up to blow Winding Refn. I haven't seen Drive, obviously, but the dude's biggest films of note so far are Pusher and Valhalla Rising, neither of which is anything to write home about.
 
Solo said:
Del Toro's would have been much worse. Dude is a great art director, but not a great director.
Whoa now. Generally I agree with alot of your opinions Solo, but the two Hellboys and Pans, especially Pans, are both fantastically made films.
 
BotoxAgent said:
I wonder what a QT-directed bond would have been like

Quentin Taratino has said that if he had directed Casino Royale, he would have kept Pierce Brosnan. Considering how wonderful Casino Royal turned out, I'm kinda glad it never happened.

Yeah, this doesn't belong in this thread I don't think. QT was NEVER in lined up to be a Bond director. EVER. He made comments that he wanted to do one, but thats it. EON had no interest in him (or any American directors, ever) and never even acknowledged him. Completely one sided story. Its basically like when Spielberg wanted to do Bond in the 80's. One sided.
 
Buckethead said:
Michael Mann was originally going to direct The Aviator, but Scorsese stepped in when he went to direct Collateral instead.

This is the rare case where everyone benefitted. Scorsese was a great director for hire on The Aviator and Mann's Collateral was excellent.
 
Solo said:
Del Toro's would have been much worse. Dude is a great art director, but not a great director.

preach it brother. Lets not even talk about his English scripts either, terrible.

Winding-Refn has been pretty mediocre so far but Drive looks like a legit "Thief" ripoff, I can get behind that. In Mann I trust, in imitation Mann I kinda trust.
 
tarantino casino royale would have been awesome

all retro and shit

and yeah i feel kubrick could have made AI great.. as it is it's a semi interesting failure
 
Solo said:
Del Toro's would have been much worse. Dude is a great art director, but not a great director.
Del Toro is a far more efficient director than Peter Jackson, whose films are bloated and meandering in comparison.
 
Snuggler said:
at least Kubrick wouldn't have relied so much on the nauseating sentimentality that ruins AI
We were watching different movies if the sentamentality was that thick. Spielberg was trolling his stereotype to the last shot.
 
Marty Chinn said:
No you don't....

Tim-Burton-Superman-Lives-test-suit.jpg

I thought this was from Smith's Superman Lives, or was it the same film? EDIT: Yeah same flick. I didn't put them together based on that story Smith tells of Burton hating him so much...

Also, was every director in Hollywood attached to Return of the Jedi at some point? Reading this you would think so....
 
Quick said:
Harry Potter by Spielberg sounded intriguing. It would've been an animated movie with Haley Joel Osment providing Harry's voice.


I think them casting an American as Harry would have produced more riots in London than we're seeing right now...
 
Solo said:
Neil Marshall terrible? The fuck? Far from it. Also, I've been scratching my head for weeks now over why so many of you are lining up to blow Winding Refn. I haven't seen Drive, obviously, but the dude's biggest films of note so far are Pusher and Valhalla Rising, neither of which is anything to write home about.

I haven't liked a single one of Marshall's films. From what I've seen they are just gratuitous for no reason at all and can't craft interesting characters to save his life. Have you seen Bronson? That is my favorite of Refn's. Drive is on a whole other level though.
 
Somewhat related, Hayao Miyazaki was turned down to make an anime adaptation of Pippi Longstocking too. That could have been marvellous. Although, at the time he hadn't made any of his masterpieces yet so I somewhat understand Astrid Lindgren not giving a random Japanese guy access to her greatest character.
 
Going ahead and just bumping the thread since I just ordered 'Wartime Lies' from Amazon.

For a long time before his death, Kubrick was developing a film called 'Aryan Lies' based on the text, which is what originally caught my interest a long time ago.

Anyway, he stopped development in around '93 when he learned Spielberg was shooting Schindler's List at the time.

I would have loved to have seen Kubrick's exploration of the Holocaust.
 
the story behind the production of THE FLY (1986) is kinda wild.

At the same time, Brooks and Cornfeld were trying to find a suitable director. Their first choice was David Cronenberg, but he was working on an adaptation of Total Recall for Dino De Laurentiis and was unable to accept. Cornfeld decided on a young British director named Robert Bierman after seeing one of his short films. Bierman was flown to Los Angeles to meet with Pogue, and the film was in the very early stages of preproduction when tragedy struck. Bierman's family had been vacationing in South Africa and his daughter was killed in an accident. Bierman boarded a plane to go to his family, and Brooks and Cornfeld waited for a month before approaching him about resuming work on the picture. Bierman told them that he was unable to start working so soon, and Brooks told him that he would wait three months and contact him again. At the end of the three months, Bierman told him that he could not commit to the project. Brooks told him that he had understood and had freed him from his contract.

Cornfeld then heard that Cronenberg was no longer associated with Total Recall and once again approached him with The Fly. Cronenberg agreed to sign on as director if he would be allowed to rewrite the script.

The revised script differed greatly from Pogue's screenplay, though it still retained the basic plot and the central concept of a gradual mutation. Cronenberg rewrote the characters and most of the dialogue from scratch (as well as fusing DeWitt and Chandler--who had romantic intentions toward Barb in the Pogue draft--into Stathis Borans), and carried over a few key moments and concepts. Certain aspects of the transformation from Pogue's draft (such as the hero's loss of body parts) were expanded upon, and Cronenberg also layered in his trademark themes of sexuality, body horror, and personal identity. He also made it a point to keep Seth Brundle as articulate as possible for as long as possible, as opposed to Pogue's draft, in which Geoff Powell loses his ability to speak two-thirds of the way through the script.

and, of course, cronenberg cast jeff goldblum, which in my mind is one of the best casting decisions ever made in the history of cinema.
 
Just saw that:

Jack Scofield said:
Most of these films probably would have been the same regardless of director. The only current director who I can think of who OWNS his movies is Tarantino. He has a style and flair that would completely be lost if another director directed one of his films.

But for others like Martin Scorsese? Anyone could've directed his films and no one would probably be able to tell a difference (well, maybe the editing wouldn't be so atrocious). And while Spielberg definitely has a certain style to him, it's so easily replicated that it means nothing anymore. Take Super 8, for example. If it was released in the '80s, EXACTLY how it is now and marketed as a Spielberg flick, no one would dispute it.

Hollywood is really in need of unique directors who can bring a special vision and talent to a project and not just hammer out a film by the numbers.

Worst. post. ever.
 
beelzebozo said:
the story behind the production of THE FLY (1986) is kinda wild.





and, of course, cronenberg cast jeff goldblum, which in my mind is one of the best casting decisions ever made in the history of cinema.

I love the fly, but i didn't know that we missed a movie based on PKD filmed by 80s Cronenberg :(
 
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