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Final Fantasy 13 - A Storm Gathers
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MagiusNecros
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Syphon Filter
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what's wrong with her?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Cause... she is. :x
I liked them too. I actually really liked XIII-2 except for the plot holes/unexplained stuff. Which is why I was hoping the 9/1 announcement was XIII-2 International that finally ties everything up but it doesn't seem like it's gonna be that way ):. Oh well.
Nah, I liked them too. It was like a wacky FF version of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures, except with more sexual tension and uguu~s.
MagiusNecros
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Made me laugh.
badcrumble
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I don't want *any* FF characters from previous games to appear in FF Versus XIII, whether I like them or not. FF games are supposed to stand alone, not to be cameo-fests. Gilgamesh is pretty much the sole exception and he isn't a main character.
Can you understand why I wouldn't want Vivi appearing in it either, or Cloud?
I liked them. I HATED Serah in XIII and most of XIII-2, but at the end
I was surprisingly sad when she died.
Noel grew on me much to my surprise (but this stands for very little outside the context of the XIII games); Serah I can see why people hate. Much more so than Lightning actually. I'm pretty sure her one virtue (if you can even call it that) is that Nomura was right - she's the cutest character he's designed. She's kinda dopey and submissive, but she's real easy on the eyes.
good that I wasn't the only one.
Anyways, I have finished XIII-2 and saw all the endings, but I didn't play the requiem of goddess. Is this DLC significant to the story? I probably won't be playing it until end of the year. I hope whatever trailer that comes out this week doesn't spoil this DLC.
Anyways, I have finished XIII-2 and saw all the endings, but I didn't play the requiem of goddess. Is this DLC significant to the story? I probably won't be playing it until end of the year. I hope whatever trailer that comes out this week doesn't spoil this DLC.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Give this man a Genji Medal.
Nah, I like both too. Although I like Serah much more than Noel though. Noel lost some points on talking trash to Snow though.
idlethreats
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Not even Cid?
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Not even Cid?
Biggs/Wedge and the recurring name of Cid are allowed.
He gained like a million points for that in my book.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
MagiusNecros said:
Hahahahaha. You know, any time I see her smile in-game, I think it looks quite unnatural and strange for some reason...
Oh well, her only purpose is to look cool and pose for boxarts.
You're certainly not.
I like Captain MC Hammer Pants quite a bit. Trashing Snow, snarking off, thinking some plans are dumb, having excellent attack animations, etc.
And Serah is the better Farron out of the two due to actually having a personality. I don't buy Serah and Lightning's relationship as sisters, though. The games never made it seem like they were close at all. All Lightning did was drink and yell at her. And Serah never ever calls her by her regular name, as if Lightning bashed it into her head to never call her by her regular name.
Hey remember that rumour from before FFXIII came out where Lightning was supposed to be Serah or some nonsense? Or how she was the daughter of Space Pope?
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Not that significant. It just explains a few things about XIII-2 Lightning's story. Presumably, it's the lead in to the property that they're announcing this weekend, so I wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming teaser spoils this DLC.
Seriously. That was my most anticipated moment of the game, since some of the trailers showed a brief clip of his rant at Snow. It was such a letdown when he backed down from the trash talk. :-(
She's got a fitting smile in this scene.
Isn't that sort of the implication, that they aren't very close at all due to Lightning being a stoic, hardass (drunk)? The prequel novella goes into more detail about their relationship, and shows that Lightning didn't even know that her sister was dating Snow and felt really guilty about never making time for Serah. When she realizes that Snow is starting to creep in on Serah's life, she makes plans to go on a vacation with her to get Serah away from Snow and reconnect with her sister. Then the l'Cie shit hits the fan.
Even though they're not close, it still makes sense that Lightning is obsessed/violent about saving Serah though. Besides the bottle, what else has she got? Her whole identity has been built around being Serah's caretaker/curmudgeon.
15-year old Lightning having an identity crisis about her name probably scared Serah into submission.
MagiusNecros
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No wonder she can't cook.
Meccanical
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idlethreats
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Shhhh! It's headcanon! That makes it "real."
badcrumble
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Not even Cid?
Cid is a different character from one installment to the next, of course.
Cjdamon042
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Those pics are hilarious haha
They also show how good looking the game is too. Sure some models could be better (most are great in my opinion though) but I love the lighting and how well animated everything is.
They also show how good looking the game is too. Sure some models could be better (most are great in my opinion though) but I love the lighting and how well animated everything is.
Dark Schala
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Man I'm trying to find it now, but I definitely read it somewhere.
I was pretty psyched to get my Japanese copy because I read that, and then I played through the game and then I was disappointed. :/
That's a flash of a sideways smirk. When she genuinely smiles, it looks plain weird.
When Lightning talks about how they used to talk and laugh together in FFXIII-2 during theIsn't that sort of the implication, that they aren't very close at all due to Lightning being a stoic, hardass (drunk)? The prequel novella goes into more detail about their relationship, and shows that Lightning didn't even know that her sister was dating Snow and felt really guilty about never making time for Serah. When she realizes that Snow is starting to creep in on Serah's life, she makes plans to go on a vacation with her to get Serah away from Snow and reconnect with her sister. Then the l'Cie shit hits the fan.
Even though they're not close, it still makes sense that Lightning is obsessed/violent about saving Serah though. Besides the bottle, what else has she got? Her whole identity has been built around being Serah's caretaker/curmudgeon.
15-year old Lightning having an identity crisis about her name probably scared Serah into submission.
Vile Peaks
They never talked and laughed. They never seemed close, even though FFXIII-2's trying to tell me that they were close.
But Serah's the only thing she has in terms of family, so they have that, I guess.
idlethreats
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I suppose I assumed she was referring to their pre-orphaned relationship. Since they were both in their teens when their last parent died, they probably have a fairly substantial well of pleasant childhood memories together to draw upon still. I always read their relationship as being one full of regret due to the breakdown between them in the years since the 'rents died, which fueled their mutual desire to find/save/see each other again. To apologize, make amends, right the wrongs of the past few years, etc.
SQEX certainly did a piss poor job of developing their relationship and actually showing (instead of telling) us their sisterly bond though, that's for sure.
I had no beef with Noel or Caius, and as long as Serah continued to be the moron I loved to play her as, I had no problem with her, either.
The only characters I could not stand in XIII-2 were Alyssa and Yeul. Yeul because she had NO IDEA how to walk and Alyssa because UGH UGH UGH UGH.
I hope that, when the English version of Type-0 DOES come out, they sew the third ending together so I don't have to piece it together from the archives. ENDING SPOILERS:
I mean the scenes that Tiz and Lean have leading up to their conversation with Arecia and her conversation with Class 0 prior to creating the new world.
And I still think Lightning is great, if only because she was the only person in Dissidia who ever decided to call Cosmos out on her crap.
Fimbulvetr
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Yet in XIII-2 she's completely subservient to Etro.CorvoSol said:
Snowden's Secret
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So my house got burglarized and the fuckers stole my PS3 the day after I bought XIII-2 so I never got to play it.
Without spoiling the story too much, does XIII-2 reinforce my theory that FFVII and FFXIII are in the same canon? (Jenova is a Fal'cie, Sephiroth her L'cie, his Focus to destroy the planet to summon the Maker, Sephiroth and Cid have similar transformations as they falter, etc)
Without spoiling the story too much, does XIII-2 reinforce my theory that FFVII and FFXIII are in the same canon? (Jenova is a Fal'cie, Sephiroth her L'cie, his Focus to destroy the planet to summon the Maker, Sephiroth and Cid have similar transformations as they falter, etc)
Wut. No. Stop smoking that weed. It expired 10 years ago.
FFVII and FFX are the same canon. FFXIII has nothing to do with that.
Twilight Princess
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You guys do care after all.
Kitase: You don't owe these people anymore. You've given them everything.
Toriyama: Not everything. Not yet.
Snowden's Secret
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Wut. No. Stop smoking that weed. It expired 10 years agTge thoughto.
FFVII and FFX are the same canon. FFXIII has nothing to do with that.
The thought of a dealer caring enough to put a sell-by date on his product us hilarious.
The goddess who saved her life.
Fimbulvetr
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The goddess who gave the source of all her power, and the source of all the world ending paradox energy to a mortal because he was really passionate. Totally not a moron who should be called out for constantly making stupid decisions.
Gods in mythologies often are, particularly Greek.
Fimbulvetr
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Greek gods made stupid decisions because they were selfish assholes. Etro is portrayed as being totally above that, yet still makes decisions so bad they literally lead to the end of all time and space.
No, that's actually not true. Etro, and all the other deities in FNC, are fashioned after the tone of Greek mythology. They're not "above" anything other than being responsible for the creation of life... accidentally. I think you're mistaking what people in the games think of the deities for what the deities actually are.
Fimbulvetr
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Okay, yeah, I exagerrated. Etro is supposed to be fairly humanized(in the sense that she's motherly), but I seriously don't see how that caused her, a being outside of time that can bestow visions of the future and other neat superpowers onto the people she chooses, to make the worst decision ever.
Also is any of that info about the Gods provided in any of the games? Like, even in the datalogs?
This one cracked me up.
HAHAHAHA
In FFXIII I remember the Pulse Datalogs covering a lot of info about the myth of creation. It's presented as legend that is handed down from the ancient times of Pulse. It's pretty interesting because there are contradictions between different sources as well as what the fal'Cie themselves say in the game, which goes to show that no one really knows for certain what is the true origin or nature of the first deities. A lot of the datalogs have to be unlocked by doing the optional Pulse missions though.
In FFXIII-2 all the datalog entries you unlock flesh out the history of Pulse even more, with regards to the way the tribes lived, the belief system centered around the oracle and their relationship with the Goddess. There really isn't anything there which definitely characterizes Etro, because the truth is no one knows Etro.
One of the constant themes of FFXIII which I find interesting, but rather underdeveloped and poorly presented, is that society in the game wants to believe that the gods know what they are doing and are helping them, but in reality their gods are simply looking for answers themselves and seek to find a way to justify their existence.
This one cracked me up.
His smug face is perfect.
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