Support NeoGAF

[Xpliskin]

All these years of R&D for nothing ?

The past is the past I guess.

It was a bad sign when the lead technical director behind Luminous left a while ago.


I hope they can salvage their own tech by learning from UE.


...


On the other hand this means we will know ahead of time what is/was planned for further episodes.

UE data reads like a book.

And modding will be easy too.

 

[charsace]

The FF15 engine must be hard to work with.

 

[AuthenticM]

It's good to have confirmation.

 

[damn that's nice]

will marcus fenix be playable?

Perhaps they could include deathmatch as well.

 

[raven777]

SE Japan is going almost full UE4....

Bandai Namco is similar.. Tekken 7, Summer Lesson, Ace Combat all using UE4.

 

[hiryu64]

I think that's because they seem to be taking animations they made for Final Fantasy XV and putting them into the FF7 remake as opposed to any parts of the engine.

And really, if they can achieve visual parity using UE4, then there are virtually no drawbacks to using it over Luminous.

 

[JuanLatino]

Goodbye Luminous Engine

 

[Nibel]

I think that's because they seem to be taking animations they made for Final Fantasy XV and putting them into the FF7 remake as opposed to any parts of the engine.

Like the part where Cloud is walking through a tight corner appears to share the animation for doing so.

Yeah that's the part that I meant, but I can see them using other similar stuff as well apart from animations.

As long as it helps development I'm all for it, not complaining or anything.

 

[kayos90]

Goodbye Luminous Engine

And good fucking riddance.

 

[mrmickfran]

All that time wasted on Luminous.

 

[Percy]

Good.

No good has come from SE trying to develop games on their own engines these past ten years at least.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Really? Interesting, this is the first time I heard this.

Yeah, pretty amazing and should be a record for SE that they don't fuck up once but twice when developing new engine

 

[Deviousx]

Good to know.

Based UE4.

 

[VariantX]

Very odd that aren't just going to reskin FF 15 for this.

Why not use that engine?

Because its way more work and It's likely UE4 does most of if not everything Luminous engine does, but better. If it doesn't, it'll probably get updated by Epic to do that thing. Epic probably does the vast majority of the work here on the engineering side and all Square Enix has to worry about is making the game and assets to poplulate that game. SE saves money and can build games much faster this way.

 

[KyanMehwulfe]

All these years of R&D for nothing ?

Sometimes the greatest experiences are losses or wastes of time ;p gotta learn those hard lesson haha

 

[10k]

That's great.

A little off topic but that means the NX supports Unreal Engine 4 since DQXI was confirmed for it.

 

[Hastati]

How does UE4 compare to 3 in terms of ease of use and overall development times? I feel like there haven't been that many AAA releases that have used it yet, but there seem to be a lot of good things said about it.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Good, reduces time for development by 50%+...

And looks great so far.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Is Just Cause 3 using UE4?

With Tabata talking about bringing in some of Avalanche's devs to assist in a potential DLC controllable airship with XV, I wonder if Kitase will do the same with VII:Re? Might be a lot easier to implement than it would be with Luminous, too. Maybe?

 

[thehillissilent]

Is Just Cause 3 using UE4?

With Tabata talking about bringing in some of Avalanche's devs to assist in a potential DLC controllable airship, I wonder if Kitase will do the same with VII:Re? Might be a lot easier to implement than it would be with Luminous, too. Maybe?

No, it's using a custom engine by Avalanche.

 

[Mr. Poolman]

Wooojooo!!! no Lightning cameo!

 

[mugurumakensei]

Nice to have it confirmed. Epic did good with UE4.

 

[evilr]

Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest
Kingdom Hearts

They did the hat trick.

I'd expect all future SE games to be developed with UE4.

 

[jmga]

Isn't Dissidia also using UE4?

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Weird to me, but alright. Epic collecting bank.

 

[Asd202]

And good fucking riddance.

.

 

[mugurumakensei]

I'd expect all future SE games to be developed with UE4.

Small titles and mobile will probably be unity.

 

[Struct09]

I bet it was because they were able to use the pre-packaged Cole Train model for Barrett

 

[ChaosZeroX]

I honestly expected this. Especially with KH3 and DQ11 being developed on UE4

 

[omonimo]

Expected but it's not exactly a good news for their finances. I mean, they practically admitting to have waste time and money in the luminous engine.

 

[Ruff]

is UE4 easy to mod supposing this game ever gets a PC release? I'm expecting a certain G man to be removed within a day if so :L

 

[Ghost Slayer]

Isn't Dissidia also using UE4?

No, Team Ninja in-house engine

 

[Psxphile]

That's great.

A little off topic but that means the NX supports Unreal Engine 4 since DQXI was confirmed for it.

"Confirmed"... right.

 

[Samimista]

As expected.

 

[Pie and Beans]

Shenmue 3 and Final Fantasy 7 Remake being made with the same tools. What a time to be alive.

 

[Japanmanx3]

Goodbye Luminous. I never knew ye.

 

[Kilrathi]

The lighting in game trailer gave it out real easily that it was using UE4.

 

[orichalcos]

I told you...

 

[BatDan]

I would love to a behind-the-scenes tell-all of the disastrous developments of Crystal Tools and Luminous Engine.

 

[Spaghetti]

not surprised. that engine is a godsend to japanese developers right now, and for good reason.

 

[thehillissilent]

is UE4 easy to mod supposing this game ever gets a PC release? :L

It will get a PC release since PC has most of the other FF games and FFX is coming to PC as well. Users should have no issue with modding FF 7 Remake.

 

[Falk]

We'll be able to import Mario to FF7.

A dream come true for many.

 

[Dunkley]

Huh, I actually thought that was already confirmed, but I guess not.


Color me surprised on that it only was confirmed now.

 

[rayman1900]

More focus on Game Design, less worrying about tech, that's good news.

 

[Rush_Khan]

Excellent news. UE4 seems like a good engine to use for faster development.

 

[charlequin]

Man, I wonder how much money square has pumped in to luminous so far. Far less than it would have cost them to license UE4, I'm sure.

Niro and I did some napkin math and we're figuring their investment just purely into Luminous is probably in the range of $10 to $20 million. That amount of money would probably cover the license fee for UE4 in 5+ games, and that's before getting into the enormous amount of lost productivity (due to bad tools) and lost revenue (due to worse games shipping later) that Luminous is responsible for.

 

[Tevos]

We're never going to get a full game of Agni's Philosophy are we

 

[Aeana]

We're never going to get a full game of Agni's Philosophy are we

You were never going to. It was a tech demo from the start, and that's all it was ever going to be.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

We're never going to get a full game of Agni's Philosophy are we

It depends on how much Hiroyuki Ito likes it and decides to use it as the basis for XVI.

 

[Ruff]

We're never going to get a full game of Agni's Philosophy are we

I don't think people ever expected to. I would certainly have liked to see it expanded on though.