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[Y2Kev]

Sony is definitely moving GT5 out of march now :lol

 

[Kuraudo]

GOWIII, GT5 (apparently)

Yeah, just FFXIII for m-

STRANGE JOURNEY, man!

Oh, hello.

 

[edgefusion]

I find him pretty attractive though. Does anyone know who he is?

God yes, he must be named so much googling can take place.

 

[Kagari]

Sony is definitely moving GT5 out of march now :lol

March for Japan, April for everywhere else.

 

[Walshicus]

I find him pretty attractive though. Does anyone know who he is?

Mr Smug McSmuggington

Bullshit.
Most european gamers understand as much japanese as they do english.

That's such an incredibly stupid thing to say.

 

[Subliminal]

So.. When this bar fills up, we find out what we get in december?

so

"Retweet this message to help unlock an exclusive Xbox LIVE item for Final Fantasy XIII #FFXIIIXBOX http://xbox.com/ffxiii"

Is complete BS? and it should be

"Retweet this message to help find out about how you can unlock an exclusive Xbox LIVE item for Final Fantasy XIII #FFXIIIXBOX http://xbox.com/ffxiii"

 

[JKTrix]

Did this microsoft/twitter thing catch Sony completely off-guard? Playstation.com doesn't even have a page for Final Fantasy 13, and Microsoft has a whole viral marketing thing going on immediately after the release announcement.

Gracious.

 

[Desi]

Mr Smug McSmuggington

Snow's VA. prolly to save money from paying off Lewis.


ok no i don't know who he is.

 

[DMeisterJ]

Well, shit.

3/9/10 it is. I can't fucking wait.

 

[SecretBonusPoint]

Mr Smug McSmuggington

He'll rot to death, trapped in his gaudy CGI Release date prison walls.

 

[Diablos]

Did this microsoft/twitter thing catch Sony completely off-guard? Playstation.com doesn't even have a page for Final Fantasy 13, and Microsoft has a whole viral marketing thing going on immediately after the release announcement.

Gracious.

I don't know, but the NA FF13 site is a joke. Everyone else has something at least decent. SCEA seems to lag behind SCEE and SCEJ when it comes to releasing new information and talking about promotions.

It doesn't surprise me that MS is promoting some special item or whatever. Sony may have something, too, though.

 

[Crash Station]

As expected, this thread exploded. Wasn't expecting the Leona Lewis hate especially after all the hate the original Japanese theme got. Oh well, at least we know the game is coming soon. Time to go on blackout for the next 4 months.

 

[Kagari]

Did this microsoft/twitter thing catch Sony completely off-guard? Playstation.com doesn't even have a page for Final Fantasy 13, and Microsoft has a whole viral marketing thing going on immediately after the release announcement.

Gracious.

European side does. US side is still sleeping :lol

 

[Die Squirrel Die]

I wonder if there'd be this hoopla if it was Beyonce.

If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it
If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it
Don't be a mad if you take extra fire damage
If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it

 

[Darkpen]

@duckroll's "incomplete" comment: For comparison, the US release of Valkyria Chronicles has a completely omitted Japanese vocal track, and was perfectly fine ("No Matter the Distance" by JUJU). As for how this comparison contributes to the discussion, I have no idea.

Personally, I'm torn. My initial impression of the song on youtube was confusion, and then slight understanding of how the lyrics might relate to Lightning's character, but only lightly. I also understand its marketability, and how this song might even help FFXIII's popularity amongst teenage girls, like FFX's appeal and demographic penetration back when that came out. But as others have expressed, I am disenchanted by the fact that they didn't use Hamauzu's composition and just rewrite or translate the Japanese track, as has been tradition with the vocal tracks in the FF games. On the other hand, the vocal track that's been replaced did have an awfully recognizable Japanese aesthetic.

Can someone post what are the two vocal tracks in XIII?

 

[duckroll]

It most certainly is, in that they are going with a western artist who actually will have some appeal outside of Japan/Asia.

Who is "they" in this case? You are confusing a decision made by the American branch of the company for localization purposes, with a decision made by the development team of the game in Japan. That's the problem I have with your comparison. It doesn't work.

Say they have Leona Lewis do a song for FF15, but it's a Square song, actually written about the game's story -- not licensed from whatever. That could very well happen someday because they're opening it up.

Someday? You mean like how it happened with FFX-2? Did you forget that Jade from Sweetbox sang both the vocal songs in FFX-2? Square songs written for the game, but sung by a Japanese artist in Japan? It already happened, stop pretending like it didn't.

They are clearly experimenting with the idea of using western singers for a game that traditionally used Asian ones, just like they experimented with using a pop song for a scene in a JRPG back in 1998/99 with FFVIII. That wasn't exactly an expected thing back then, now we know it's coming and want to hear what the song is.

See what I said above. There is no experimentation here, it's just lazy licensing. As for pop songs, did you know that Uematsu and Sakaguchi originally wanted to have Maria Carey sing an ending song for FFVII? They would totally have done it too, if they had a few million dollars to spend. Unfortunately they didn't at the time, so they decided to do it in FFVIII instead.

Is it really worth including someone in a game's OST with lyrics that really don't work too well when translated to English, even if it's written for the game? That's not a very good way to represent the artist, especially if they are capable of much better (Faye Wong, for example). I don't think many western gamers would care about losing that. Angela Aki was the only one who got it right. Otherwise just keep it in Japanese like they did in FFX.

I don't think you are fucking understand what the FUCK I am saying, and it is annoying the FUCK out of me. You seem to equate the SINGERS with the SONGS. Which is NOT what I am talking about. I am talking about the SONG, not the SINGER. Faye Wong did not write Eyes on Me. Angela Aki did not write Kiss me Goodbye. This has nothing to do with REPRESENTING the artist. The artist is simply someone who sings the song written by the COMPOSER of the game, for the GAME. ARGHHHHHHHH!

I understand that, and they could have had a western singer do the English version instead of just licensing something, or perhaps have another song made for the game. But like I said, they could very well be heading in that direction if this is an indication.

SEE WHAT I SAID ABOUT FFX-2. THEY ALREADY DID THAT. THEY WENT IN THAT DIRECTION ALREADY. THIS IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DIRECTION WHICH INDICATES SOMETHING ELSE.

No doubt they paid Faye Wong a lot of money, but still, not many people know about her outside of Asia so it could certainly be seen as a way to introduce a western audience to her music. I don't say this to be insulting, I actually don't mind anything else I've heard from her, but I just don't think it did much for her or the song outside of Asian markets.

I'm not sure why you keep talking about "introducing a western audience" to the music. I seriously do not. Why do you have this idea that Eyes on Me was meant to introduce Faye Wong to any western audience? It was a song she was commissioned to sing for the game. The song was composed by Uematsu for FFVIII. It was written for the game, it was not written by Faye Wong. She was simply the vocalist hired to sing it because she is massively popular in Japan and Asia, and the game is developed by Japanese. The fact that the song was also in English meant that they could keep the song in the western versions of the game, without changing it. That's all. It was never intended at any point to introduce any artist to any foreign market. Jeez.

 

[Darkpen]

I wonder if there'd be this hoopla if it was Beyonce.

If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it
If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it
Don't be a mad if you take extra fire damage
If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it

:lol :lol :lol

 

[jump_button]

So.. When this bar fills up, we find out what we get in december?

so

"Retweet this message to help unlock an exclusive Xbox LIVE item for Final Fantasy XIII #FFXIIIXBOX http://xbox.com/ffxiii"

Is complete BS? and it should be

"Retweet this message to help find out about how you can unlock an exclusive Xbox LIVE item for Final Fantasy XIII #FFXIIIXBOX http://xbox.com/ffxiii"

:lol more like MS PR trying to let everyone know it have FF13 as well to bad it's why we not be geting japanese voice track! F you MS god I'm pissed

 

[Feep]

Disclaimer: Please, GAF, not trying to start anything here.

Have there been any side-to-side comparisons of 360 vs. PS3 builds thus far? I own a 360 and would be content to pick it up for the 'Box, but if it suffers a severe graphical degradation I may just wait for my friend to finish it and lend me both his PS3 and the title itself.

 

[brandonh83]

I wonder if there'd be this hoopla if it was Beyonce.

I would seriously cancel my preorder and buy something else.

 

[Crash Station]

I just realized. A March release date means there's a possibility the game will get the South Park bump! Maybe even in the season premiere! Awesome!

 

[Alex]

Japanese companies always struggle with community stuff. Even a game that demands it, like FF14, much like 11, will probably have little to no community support/interaction outside of small fansites.

 

[Kagari]

Disclaimer: Please, GAF, not trying to start anything here.

Have there been any side-to-side comparisons of 360 vs. PS3 builds thus far? I own a 360 and would be content to pick it up for the 'Box, but if it suffers a severe graphical degradation I may just wait for my friend to finish it and lend me both his PS3 and the title itself.

No.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Disclaimer: Please, GAF, not trying to start anything here.

Have there been any side-to-side comparisons of 360 vs. PS3 builds thus far? I own a 360 and would be content to pick it up for the 'Box, but if it suffers a severe graphical degradation I may just wait for my friend to finish it and lend me both his PS3 and the title itself.

I remember seeing one of the 360 E3 build compared to PS3 build, the 360 version was lacking in a few areas - can't remember where i saw it though, its kinda pointless considering the 360 version wasn't as far along

 

[Verano]

hey now where's the guy who bet that the US release was on march!?
Give that guy a fuckin medal of win!

 

[Tiduz]

March 9, 2010 NA/EU

at first i was like

then i went like

 

[MrDenny]

Disclaimer: Please, GAF, not trying to start anything here.

Have there been any side-to-side comparisons of 360 vs. PS3 builds thus far? I own a 360 and would be content to pick it up for the 'Box, but if it suffers a severe graphical degradation I may just wait for my friend to finish it and lend me both his PS3 and the title itself.

I don't think the 360 version will look differently.
You will have to swap disc 3 or 4 times though.
The audio might be more compressed.
Other than that, they should be the same.

 

[duckroll]

I don't think the 360 version will look differently.
You will have to swap disc 3 or 4 times though.
The audio might be more compressed.

What about the FMV?

 

[imtehman]

:lol more like MS PR trying to let everyone know it have FF13 as well to bad it's why we not be geting japanese voice track! F you MS god I'm pissed

well, if you can't use the x360 delays FFXIII card, you use the japanese voice track one instead.

 

[RPGCrazied]

well the little they have showed on the 360, looks damn smooth to me

 

[inner-G]

What about the FMV?

That's the elephant in the room that no one wants to poke.

 

[masterkajo]

Me wants some "dear my friend" instead of "my hands". Will there be a chance that on the US/EU PS3 Blue-Ray there will be a japanese version with english subtitles?

 

[brandonh83]

FINAUAR FANTASHIE

 

[imtehman]

speaking of FMV was the TGS trailer on XBL 1080p?

 

[Perfect Blue]

hey now where's the guy who bet that the US release was on march!?
Give that guy a fuckin medal of win!

Yeah, where is he?

 

[Lain]

What ? I have been to many many european countries and i have always been able to communicate a little with everyone in english. However i dont know anyone (other than a japanese girl in my class) who can understand japanese.

What I said is, most european gamers understand as much japanese as they do english. Since my initial point was, most european gamers don't know english, I think the obvious conclusion was: most european gamers don't know either languages (which is also one of the reasons why we get localizations in as many languages as we do here in Europe).

 

[adamsapple]

What about the FMV?

Didn't Lost Odyssey have 720p FMV's too ? That turned out on 4 discs ..

 

[duckroll]

speaking of FMV was the TGS trailer on XBL 1080p?

How would I know. My 360 is dead. Wait, TGS trailer? There is no JP 360 release right now! :lol

Didn't Lost Odyssey have 720p FMV's too ? That turned out on 4 discs ..

Resolution is less of a concern than bitrate honestly.

 

[imtehman]

Didn't Lost Odyssey have 720p FMV's too ? That turned out on 4 discs ..

it also has 5 languages?

 

[imtehman]

How would I know. My 360 is dead. Wait, TGS trailer? There is no JP 360 release right now! :lol

lol sorry that wasn't a question for you but a general question, i don't know why i quoted you

 

[expy]

Why do I have a feeling that the non-Japanese versions have been gimped for a quicker release window?

 

[Fimbulvetr]

I wonder if there'd be this hoopla if it was Beyonce.

If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it
If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it
Don't be a mad if you take extra fire damage
If you liked it should've equipped a ring on it

*slowclap.gif*



I love that this is how square shot themselves in the foot.

Not the apparent melodrama bullshit, not how the game actually plays, but replacing a bad Japanese song with a bad English song.

GAF I am disappoint.

 

[LiK]

Didn't Lost Odyssey have 720p FMV's too ? That turned out on 4 discs ..

Only a few cutscenes are FMV, most are in-game. I think it was 4 discs mainly because it had a ridiculous amount of language tracks.

 

[adamsapple]

it also has 5 languages?

Yeah that too.

I don't think it should be more than 3 discs personally. That's like 20 GB of disc space. Should be plenty .. right ?

 

[imtehman]

Why do I have a feeling that the non-Japanese versions have been gimped for a quicker release window?

DLC?

 

[Desi]

*slowclap.gif*



I love how this is how square shot themselves in the foot.

Not the apparent melodrama bullshit, not how the game actually plays, but replacing a bad Japanese song with a bad English song.

GAF I am disappoint.

but the japanese one is OFFICIAL. *nod*

 

[grandjedi6]

oh man, the same day as Strange Journey. Go Atlus go! :lol

 

[jump_button]

well, if you can't use the x360 delays FFXIII card, you use the japanese voice track one instead.

Just add it in the PS3 i know they cant do it for 360 but Do it for ps3 I dont want Fucking Leona Lewis

that ass hole who stoping it Only fans will give a shit about japanese voice track

 

[expy]

DLC?

Gimped.

 

[Dead Prince]

I'm surprise the playstation.blog (US) hasn't updated with this news. are they waiting for someone from SE NA to come post it?!

Oh and the host of the FFXIII video is wearing underwear.