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Final Fantasy XIV Information Thread | PC Open Beta... yeah it's not really open.
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Mr. Luchador
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Cindres said:
:lol
Ideally, I want grouping for xp and big missions (think main storyline missions compared to random quests in FFXI), and soloing for most other things aside from maybe NMs and other things of that nature.
I play mainly support and tanking jobs, which are not generally solo-friendly. When I get the retail version of FFXIV I can almost guarantee that I'll play a healer first, then a tanking job, then a support job of some sort if one is available by then. I just can't imagine how I'm going to solo well as a WHM.
In FFXI I have a 75 WHM, RDM, COR, BRD, PLD and SMN (with a 68 SAM) and I rarely have issues finding a party. I understand that I played high demand jobs, but I also usually built my own party instead of sitting around waiting for invites like a vast majority of people did, and complained about.
My only real issue with FFXI partying is the fact that you really only had one "good" tank for xp parties. NIN can't hold hate well until endgame and WAR isn't a very good tank post-37. That left with you with PLD, unless people were willing to experiment with MNK or SAM, which rarely happened. SE kept adding more DD and support jobs, but never another tanking job. Very displeased with that, and I hope there's more of a balance in XIV.
I play mainly support and tanking jobs, which are not generally solo-friendly. When I get the retail version of FFXIV I can almost guarantee that I'll play a healer first, then a tanking job, then a support job of some sort if one is available by then. I just can't imagine how I'm going to solo well as a WHM.
In FFXI I have a 75 WHM, RDM, COR, BRD, PLD and SMN (with a 68 SAM) and I rarely have issues finding a party. I understand that I played high demand jobs, but I also usually built my own party instead of sitting around waiting for invites like a vast majority of people did, and complained about.
My only real issue with FFXI partying is the fact that you really only had one "good" tank for xp parties. NIN can't hold hate well until endgame and WAR isn't a very good tank post-37. That left with you with PLD, unless people were willing to experiment with MNK or SAM, which rarely happened. SE kept adding more DD and support jobs, but never another tanking job. Very displeased with that, and I hope there's more of a balance in XIV.
Mr. Luchador
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DrDogg said:
Aye, I'll be doing something similar, so if GAF'ers are running on the same server give a shout out. I'll be a healer or tank, so we'll be able to swap about if bored.
thetrin
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Ravidrath said:
Hell, I wouldn't mind tiers of quests, defined by how many players are recommended (but not required).
I have no problem putting together a big team for a couple quests if I'm not totally fucked once it disbands. I hated waiting for literally hours for a group in FFXI.
thetrin said:
I really like that idea. There's a lot of expansion story content I missed out on in XI because I just couldn't find people to do it with. Either people would have already done it, or they'd want you to help them with a quest first and then suddenly didn't have time to reciprocate etc.
Also, based on what I've read about jobs and skills etc, am I correct in assuming that we won't have to deal with the dreaded "LEVEL DOWN" this time around?
Fox the Sly
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DrDogg said:
Yeah, I hated that too. Tanking as a pre-37 NIN was tough, but thankfully I had another NIN in my static party to blink with.
Damn do I miss my MNK/NIN. *sigh*
-Pyromaniac-
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I was a really late joiner to FFXI and I had nothing but positive experiences with the community. I was a complete noob and got into some linkshell with some of the nicest people I've ever seen in an online game. They went out of their and spent hours with me helping me level the quickest way possible, any time I needed help even if they were miles away they would get someone to come help me, they were like an interactive wiki you had an all access pass to. They were giving me great weapons I'd probably never get otherwise for an extremely long time.
Maybe I got lucky but I'm hoping FFXIV manages to harbor the same time of community. Really made the game great.
Maybe I got lucky but I'm hoping FFXIV manages to harbor the same time of community. Really made the game great.
Mr. Luchador
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Wow sounds like the opposite to WoW where everyones out to stab you in the back and only care about their own kit and progression.
I stopped playing WOW for at least 6 months now because I got bored, so I have been looking for a new MMO to play. So I hope I will get into the beta.
I think I only played FF XI for a few months in Fairy when the game first came out and quit because it was hard finding a party and grinding. I believe I gave all my gears and money away to prevent myself from starting again heh.
I think I only played FF XI for a few months in Fairy when the game first came out and quit because it was hard finding a party and grinding. I believe I gave all my gears and money away to prevent myself from starting again heh.
Mr. Luchador
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Kintaro said:
Guess I'll just party with friends or people on here.
Dreamwriter
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sky said:
I chose Mithra because I wanted to play as a cat person, didn't really care about race stats
I hate that they still don't let you play as a male cat person, and wonder why - I mean, they've said this world and races have absolutely nothing to do with FFXI, so why keep the same limitations?
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
MMO's are incredibly frustrating to me because I want to play as everything. Simultaneously juggling a dozen or more characters just isn't realistic, and yet I always try. Burn out generally comes pretty quickly. Rarely do I ever reach the endgame.
Dreamwriter said:I chose Mithra because I wanted to play as a cat person, didn't really care about race stats
May be that male mithras are suppose to be rare?
-Pyromaniac-
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But there are no words to describe the satisfaction of sticking to one guy and finishing what the game has to offer and being the king of the lands. No words at all.recklessmind said:
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I'm pretty sure they will be charging for extra characters too. I'm in the same situation but I think I'm going to have to limit myself to 1, maybe 2 (male and female).recklessmind said:
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I didn't realize they charged per character... I've never played FFXI.
I just really appreciate the aesthetics of the series... and the animation/gameplay in the videos is very appealing to me. I think I would really like the game.
But a per character charge is something I'll have to think about. I know myself, and how tempted I would be to explore different options, even at a cost. A charge would be prohibitive, I think, almost like being penalized for my own inescapable curiosity. But maybe it won't be so bad... like I said, I've never played so I don't know the first thing about their account setup and whether or not it's structured fairly for both the dev/consumer. I generally don't respond well though if I feel I'm being nickel and dimed to death.
I just really appreciate the aesthetics of the series... and the animation/gameplay in the videos is very appealing to me. I think I would really like the game.
But a per character charge is something I'll have to think about. I know myself, and how tempted I would be to explore different options, even at a cost. A charge would be prohibitive, I think, almost like being penalized for my own inescapable curiosity. But maybe it won't be so bad... like I said, I've never played so I don't know the first thing about their account setup and whether or not it's structured fairly for both the dev/consumer. I generally don't respond well though if I feel I'm being nickel and dimed to death.
If they keep the inventory system the same way that it was in FFXI without a lot of expandable bank / inventory slots I'm going to have to make two separate accounts.
One for my Mikoto paladin, warrior, thief, ninja and another for my ( taru, can't remember 14 equivalent ) White , Black , Red Mage / Bard.
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One for my Mikoto paladin, warrior, thief, ninja and another for my ( taru, can't remember 14 equivalent ) White , Black , Red Mage / Bard.
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Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
For awhile there I had 3 accounts with 1 mule on each account :lol
My main character needed alot of gear for leveling all of his jobs plus to keep sets for level cap stuff
My main character needed alot of gear for leveling all of his jobs plus to keep sets for level cap stuff
Dreamwriter
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tenchir said:
But that's exactly my point! Male Mithra's from FFXI *are* supposed to be rare, and all hanging out in the Mithra homeland somewhere. But Miqo'te's from FFXIV are supposed to be a brand new race in a brand new world, completely separate from FFXI with absolutely no connection. So why keep the exact same rarity in such a similar race?
Because of the way that skills and armor are going to work in 14 I wonder what way the community are going to implement a skill check considering there aren't conventional levels attached to every player, asking someone if they have "Cure 3" or "Refresh" trained just seems a bit silly :lol
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
It fixed some, but your level 30 gear was usually better than gear ranked lower from what I could tell. But most of the time this was before that patch is when I had my main account. He got banned then I didnt need all the mules.Edeuinu said:
Edeuinu said:
Yes and no. If you just needed a sixth person, getting someone without level capped gear to scale down and come in is an option. But in the same sense, I'd say the CoP level cap fights would be really tough for a group of well geared level 75's scaled down to the appropriate level.
Level caps are an interesting concept though, if a bit annoying in practice. It's a nice way to create low level content that you can't just get one or two of your high level friends to blast you through, and lets underleveled characters have a chance to feel useful and help.
Now I'm sure that FFXI didn't do it perfectly (Okay, done with the 30 cap missions, sell that gear and buy 40 cap.. and then 50 cap.... now buy 60 cap), but honestly even WoW kind of fucked up level capped pvp by allowing absurd enchantments on low level gear.
tl;dr I'm not ready to rule out level caps