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Final Fantasy XIV Information Thread | PC Open Beta... yeah it's not really open.

B.K. said:
Some person that does lighting work for Square Enix posted on his/her Linked In resume that he/she has worked on Final Fantasy XIV for PC, PS3, and 360.

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/02/0...ys-final-fantasy-xiv-for-pc-ps3-and-xbox-360/

PC and 360 have similar dev tools right? If that's the case, then it's not out of the question for SE to be developing for all three to save time when MS finally caves. I don't think it's an indication that a 360 version is official though.
 
DrDogg said:
PC and 360 have similar dev tools right? If that's the case, then it's not out of the question for SE to be developing for all three to save time when MS finally caves. I don't think it's an indication that a 360 version is official though.

Finally caves? Is there any hope that this happens before it launches? Or will it be like 11 and show up long after?

I realize no one can probably answer these as it's all speculation, wish they would just come out and say one way or the other so I could plan accordingly. Although I've been very tempted to reinstall 11 and get back into the MMO groove.
 
Rawk Hawk said:
Finally caves? Is there any hope that this happens before it launches? Or will it be like 11 and show up long after?

I realize no one can probably answer these as it's all speculation, wish they would just come out and say one way or the other so I could plan accordingly. Although I've been very tempted to reinstall 11 and get back into the MMO groove.

Who knows. PC/PS3 version are launching first though, according to S-E.
 
It's a crystal tools game so it goes without saying that a 360 version is most likely in the works, I'm not convinced its MS being the stubborn guy here, maybe Sony have made a timed exclusive deal.

After all FF11 came to the 360 with no problems from MS, it would seem unlikely that they would have a problem with FF14.
 
Let the 360 have it. This is an MMO. The more players the better.
 
DrDogg said:
PC and 360 have similar dev tools right? If that's the case, then it's not out of the question for SE to be developing for all three to save time when MS finally caves. I don't think it's an indication that a 360 version is official though.

The problem wasn't that the 360 is similar to PC or different to PS3, it's just an issue that MS has of not wanting an online multiplatform game and not being able to profit from it.

Eitherway, if it ends up being for Live Gold, I doubt there's a considerable amount of people that would get hurt by it, hurt as in having to pay for Gold on top of the game fees, really doubt there's any, or many people that wants to get the game having only a 360 and that don't have Live Gold already.
 
Sacha said:

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

VanaFest 2010 Confirmed!

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It is our pleasure to announce that the next edition of VanaFest, Japan's premier Final Fantasy XI fan event, will be held on Sunday, February 28th 2010 in Tokyo!

Attendees can expect this year's event to be a veritable goldmine of mind-blowing news. Development and operation team members will engage in a talk session and divulge juicy pieces of information such as new content scheduled for upcoming version updates, planned job improvements, and other exciting milestones for the year 2010. The evolution of Final Fantasy XI is far from over, folks!

But save your awestruck faces for the special announcement...and be sure to hang on to your seats when it comes!

Even those unable to attend need not be disheartened! All the latest news and developments announced at the festival will be delivered to you hot off the press, so stay tuned!

Hopefully, hopefully..
 
Kagari said:
Not until MS changes their policies or allows an exception.

MS has no policies against cross platform games nor MMOs.

Examples include Final Fantasy XI, Phantasy Star, and lastly the newly announced Monster Hunter Frontier.

To set the record straight you don't need Live Gold to play an MMO, you just nee a silver account. I don't know if you need gold for Phantasy Star, however.

Cross platform games on the 360 already include: Lost Planet and Final Fantasy IX.

The only thing holding these games back from being released on the 360 are the publishers and developers.
 
Kenak said:
Just registered for the PC Beta. Do we have any clue if/when a PS3 beta will be held?

None, for all we know, the PS3 beta could start at the same time with the PC beta, or even first.
 
UltimaPooh said:
MS has no policies against cross platform games nor MMOs.

Examples include Final Fantasy XI, Phantasy Star, and lastly the newly announced Monster Hunter Frontier.

To set the record straight you don't need Live Gold to play an MMO, you just nee a silver account. I don't know if you need gold for Phantasy Star, however.

Cross platform games on the 360 already include: Lost Planet and Final Fantasy IX.

The only thing holding these games back from being released on the 360 are the publishers and developers.

How many of those games include say... cross platform with 360 and PS3?
Also, Monster Hunter Frontier has separate servers from PC.
 
Kagari said:
Creator's interview in Famitsu says the beta will start soon, but no date yet :|

To add more info on this:


- How did 2009 treat you?

Tanaka: I've been producing the same online game since 2000, so the years generally follow the same cycle. Honestly, I was just working away to the point where I couldn't really feel the passage of time. (laughs) We put together presentations on Final Fantasy XIV, and of course were actively keeping Final Fantasy XI going as well. So just like the year 2000, it was a marathon. Still, if I were to say how much of my mind was occupied by either XI or XIV, I would say XIV became increasingly important as the year went on.

- How do you feel about the gaming industry as a whole?

Tanaka: Personally, I think 2009 was the year that really brought iPod Touch and iPhone gaming to the forefront. There was an explosion of applications, including games, and what was essentially a multimedia device suddenly had a rush of new and interesting software. Services like Twitter have also become commonplace, changing the way we spread information, which I think will continue to expand this year.

In Japan, for the most part, cell phones are cell phones, and we use Nintendo DS or PSP for portable gaming. But now, if more killer titles begin to appear on the iPod Touch or iPhone, they could really start making waves in the industry. Although the CPU and memory capabilities of these devices lose out to dedicated gaming handhelds, the potential is there for iPod Touch and iPhone to become serious portable gaming systems. As for the rumored tablet, it's probably doubtful it will focus on being a gaming device, which would undermine some of the concept behind the iPod Touch line.

Either way, I have my Docomo phone. (laughs)

- What are you expecting from 2010?

Tanaka: We are going to start service for Final Fantasy XIV, which we have been working on for several years now. We don't have an official announcement yet, but we are certain the game will be ready for all users to enjoy. First, we want to get the beta test rolling.

- What kind of time frame are you thinking of for the beta test?

Tanaka: We don't intend to set a specific time frame for the test, but if we begin too close to a finished product, we cannot apply the opinions and reactions of the users. Therefore, we want to let users try out the game in its unfinished state, and from there we will take in user feedback and gradually build together towards a final version. However, we have to avoid making it too much trial-and-error, or it would be more of a development process than a beta test, which could pose problems. For instance, the servers would need to be shut down for days at a time while the developers work on the game, and I think it would be difficult to run a smooth beta test. I can't really say anything definitive about the length of the beta test at this time.

- Where do you see the gaming industry moving this year?

Tanaka: I see the birth of more unique interfaces and technology such as Project Natal. For XIV, we're worrying whether or not we can implement voice chat. Like XI, it will run across multiple platforms, and there isn't a single, unifying way to support them all. Not to mention, we have many other communications issues to confront, such as communities being splintered by system, player harassment and translation features. At the moment, supporting voice chat will be difficult.

- Tell our readers your ambitions for 2010!

Tanaka: I'm working hard to begin service for Final Fantasy XIV, and I hope to see you all in Eorzea! And of course, there is Final Fantasy XI, which I have been so proud to be a part of for 8 years now. Things are going to be heating up again this year, so I'll see you back in Vana'diel too!

http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=21451
 
Kagari said:
Seems odd to separate them at first then.
Really!? You know when a new online game starts, they basically have no idea how many people are really gonna log on, and more often than not the servers are in chaos for a week or so while the devs catch up? Do you think the existing MH population would appreciate that? :lol
 
Does FFXI 360 have cross platform play with the PS2 players?
Khrno said:
None, for all we know, the PS3 beta could start at the same time with the PC beta, or even first.
Mm. I'll just trust that someone here will find out when it is announced. /subscribed.
 
Kenak said:
Does FFXI 360 have cross platform play with the PS2 players?

Of course, and with the PC players too.

The thing is that MS needed to have SE on their side at the start of the this gen, and what better way to let them have their MMORPG running on their Live Silver service.

But now things have changed, and MS are in a very different position as they were 5 years ago, so they are being pricks.
 
I'm glad this is coming to 360, but I'll still probably play it on PC. My first 360 got RRoD from falling asleep playing XI, leaving it on all night :lol

Hopefully WHM / BLM aren't disgustingly expensive this time around.
 
Kagari said:
How many of those games include say... cross platform with 360 and PS3?
Also, Monster Hunter Frontier has separate servers from PC.

I guess it's just a waiting game then, to see if it ends up on 360 or not.
 
Well, it's good to hear that they are still committed and on track for release this year. I wonder if the focus group has already begun.
 
I would love to hear an opinion from someone who played on both PC and console, preferably 360. What was the transition between the two like?

I played the hell out of FFXI on the PC but I'm quite tempted in picking up FFXIV for the 360.

Are there any noticeable advantages PC users get such as for macros, NM hunting etc? And what about communicating with others? Thanks.
 
Aurora said:
Are there any noticeable advantages PC users get such as for macros, NM hunting etc? And what about communicating with others? Thanks.

The biggest difference and advantage for the PC version over the 360/PS2, is this one: http://windower.net/.

If you really want to get a console version for XIV, go for it, but the PC (if you have a great gaming PC) will be the superior version, not just because of technical details, but because of all the possible add-ons (even if they are against the TOS or if they are hacks) which would be impossible to have on the console versions.
 
Aurora said:
Are there any noticeable advantages PC users get such as for macros, NM hunting etc? And what about communicating with others? Thanks.

PC advantages came in the form of a lot of plugins for the Windower app which a lot of PC players used, mainly plugins which helped with battle ability timer management, etc.

Apparently PS2 users were at an advantage initially when competing to claim NMs and HNMs though, or so it was believed.
 
Aurora said:
I would love to hear an opinion from someone who played on both PC and console, preferably 360. What was the transition between the two like?

I played the hell out of FFXI on the PC but I'm quite tempted in picking up FFXIV for the 360.

Are there any noticeable advantages PC users get such as for macros, NM hunting etc? And what about communicating with others? Thanks.

I played on PC and PS2 back when I was really into the game, and played on the 360 for a very very little bit. I, personally, liked playing with the mouse/keyboard better than controller, even though some seem to think the interface was built more for a controller. Macros are just much faster with a keyboard rather than a controller, and as a red mage main I had to be quick about those things. I know you can use a keyboard on the console version, though, but it is kind of weird without a mouse. Other than that the PS2 version had ass for graphics, so that was the one difference there :lol. The 360 looks fine though.

I'm personally probably going to pick up XIV on my PS3, despite spending so much time with XI on the PC. I just like sitting on my couch and playing on my TV much more now. That and the good PC in the house is my fiance's, so I'd have to pretty much take her computer 95% of the time if it hooks me like XI did.
 
Hmm, well I stopped playing FFXI before any of this windower add-on shit was around. The add-ons essentially let you know when abilities/spells are refreshed and stuff? Sounds like a decent advantage if that's the case.

How easy (convenient) is it to hold the same account on both PC and console?
 
Aurora said:
Hmm, well I stopped playing FFXI before any of this windower add-on shit was around. The add-ons essentially let you know when abilities/spells are refreshed and stuff? Sounds like a decent advantage if that's the case.

How easy (convenient) is it to hold the same account on both PC and console?

It was pretty easy to have the same account for me. I switched back and forth a decent amount, depending on if I was downstairs on the family computer or if I wanted to really stay up late at night and was up in my room on my PS2. Only problem was that you had to update both the PC and PS2, and some of those updates were pretty long.


Also, those add-ons would have been kind of useful, but I already had all my macros set to tell me when the spells were ready again. So unless I got antsy and hit the macro before the timer/notification came up, it worked well enough for me.
 
Aurora said:
Hmm, well I stopped playing FFXI before any of this windower add-on shit was around. The add-ons essentially let you know when abilities/spells are refreshed and stuff? Sounds like a decent advantage if that's the case.

How easy (convenient) is it to hold the same account on both PC and console?

Your POL sign on basically has all the information. Jumping between PC and console would only really effect your macros you have set up as those are localized to the platform you are on. But other than that, I played on the PS2 and PC very often when playing FFXI. If I get it again, it will be for the 360 though, I did prefer the console version myself.
 
Rawk Hawk said:
Your POL sign on basically has all the information. Jumping between PC and console would only really effect your macros you have set up as those are localized to the platform you are on. But other than that, I played on the PS2 and PC very often when playing FFXI. If I get it again, it will be for the 360 though, I did prefer the console version myself.

Oh yeah I forgot that was my one HUGE annoyance. I'd make a big change to my macros on one system and then forget to change it elsewhere and do something I didn't want to while partied on another system.

It especially got confusing for me since I could be playing on my family PC, my laptop, my PS2, my girlfriend's PS2, my girlfriend's PC, or my girlfriend's mom's PC..
 
:lol
RDreamer said:
Oh yeah I forgot that was my one HUGE annoyance. I'd make a big change to my macros on one system and then forget to change it elsewhere and do something I didn't want to while partied on another system.

It especially got confusing for me since I could be playing on my family PC, my laptop, my PS2, my girlfriend's PS2, my girlfriend's PC, or my girlfriend's mom's PC..


Haha yea, I ended up solving my issue later in my FFXI career by using one system for crafting and farming and the other one for any major party/events. So my macros were basically saved just on one system. I can see where you might run into an issue though.
 
Aurora said:
How easy (convenient) is it to hold the same account on both PC and console?

As people said, macros might be the only issue, unless they save them server side, I think they started doing that recently in XI.

However bear in mind that you cannot have the same account logged on 2 different machines, so for dual boxing purposes a second account was needed and will most likely be like that now too.
 
Khrno said:
As people said, macros might be the only issue, unless they save them server side, I think they started doing that recently in XI.

However bear in mind that you cannot have the same account logged on 2 different machines, so for dual boxing purposes a second account was needed and will most likely be like that now too.

I looked into that because I couldve sworn that I uploaded my macro sets to their servers on PCand then transferred them to my 360 and PS2 but according to a 2005 thread on alla, that isnt possible.
 
Yeah that's understandable. I had a mule account anyway. Has S-E released any information regarding monthly fees?

I'll probably pick this up on PC first and try out the 360 version before diving in.
 
Salaadin said:
I looked into that because I couldve sworn that I uploaded my macro sets to their servers on PCand then transferred them to my 360 and PS2 but according to a 2005 thread on alla, that isnt possible.

When I said recently I meant 2009 :lol


And nothing about fees yet but it'd probably be around the same price as most MMORPGs nowadays, hopefully they have some deals to for paying a year in advance and stuff.
 
Khrno said:
When I said recently I meant 2009 :lol


And nothing about fees yet but it'd probably be around the same price as most MMORPGs nowadays, hopefully they have some deals to for paying a year in advance and stuff.
:lol

Yeah. Im almost certain that I was able to do it. I dont know how Id have the patience to play on 3 platforms otherwise.
 
If the only way SE can get MS' approval is to gimp the PS3 version by segregating PS3 players to their own servers, then I'd rather they not release a 360 version. Ideally the game would launch on all three platforms with cross-platform servers, but that ball in is MS' court.
 
Aurora said:
I would love to hear an opinion from someone who played on both PC and console, preferably 360. What was the transition between the two like?

I played the hell out of FFXI on the PC but I'm quite tempted in picking up FFXIV for the 360.

Are there any noticeable advantages PC users get such as for macros, NM hunting etc? And what about communicating with others? Thanks.

To add my $.02

I started on PC and switched to 360 for the convenience on sitting on my couch and playing with the controller AND the HD graphics (my PC wasn't that strong). I know much of my reasoning is moot if you end up doing all that with your PC.

I still used a keyboard so macros was not an issue for me. I couldn't use windower so that was my only drawback. Other than that, I love playing with my 360 controller. Feels so comfortable and feels good on my HD tv.

Be wary though... Besieged sucks for 360 players. I've had many freeze-ups (as well as other 360 players) during Besieged.
 
Kronotech said:
To add my $.02

I started on PC and switched to 360 for the convenience on sitting on my couch and playing with the controller AND the HD graphics (my PC wasn't that strong). I know much of my reasoning is moot if you end up doing all that with your PC.

I still used a keyboard so macros was not an issue for me. I couldn't use windower so that was my only drawback. Other than that, I love playing with my 360 controller. Feels so comfortable and feels good on my HD tv.

Be wary though... Besieged sucks for 360 players. I've had many freeze-ups (as well as other 360 players) during Besieged.

Any of the large scale battles were a pain on 360. I had the same types on lockups in Beseiged and Campaign. All the XP I lost and time I wasted because of it. Ugh.

It also ran very choppy during some Dynamis runs..choppier than it did on PC, which is why I made the switch
 
I didn't like playing FFXI on the 360, it just seemed slower for some reason. Not to mention the whole profile linking bullshit you have to go through.

If you have a choice, go with PC for FFXIV, I can't really think of any advantage for playing on consoles. Unless you have access to two accounts and dual boxing for some reason won't work on PC. I would play on PC and PS2 at the same time to power level myself or to go to LS events on my friends account. I found that easier than switching windows.

Azrael said:
If the only way SE can get MS' approval is to gimp the PS3 version by segregating PS3 players to their own servers, then I'd rather they not release a 360 version. Ideally the game would launch on all three platforms with cross-platform servers, but that ball in is MS' court.
I don't know what the hold up is to be honest, but I can't see SE making private servers for any console.
 
Azrael said:
If the only way SE can get MS' approval is to gimp the PS3 version by segregating PS3 players to their own servers, then I'd rather they not release a 360 version. Ideally the game would launch on all three platforms with cross-platform servers, but that ball in is MS' court.

We don't know if that's really the issue, though. I'm guessing it's not. Would it really do MS any harm to allow their 360-buying customers to play this game with their PS3-buying friends? Even if they think that would hurt them, it couldn't be worse than the effects of not having the game at all. SE isn't going to back down on the cross-platform server approach, period.

I'm guessing they're being pricks about live fees/subscription fees.
 
HappyBivouac said:
I'm guessing they're being pricks about live fees/subscription fees.

I dont know why thatd be an issue now when it wasnt for FFXI. Why change your minds? It also makes no sense to not allow a game on your console for something so simple and stupid.
 
SimpleDesign said:
If you have a choice, go with PC for FFXIV, I can't really think of any advantage for playing on consoles.

A console is cheaper to buy than a top of the line PC, which is what the minimum specs will be.
 
PC for me, since my wife will play also, so well go questing together and such :D
 
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