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Final Fantasy XV is mostly inspired by Final Fantasy III, IV, V, and VI.
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PixyJunket
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I like you.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Nonsense... where is the crazy hairdo
firebranded
Member
You know what's up
Totally agree with both points though, given the length of the series and the number of copies the PS1, 2 entries sold compared to previous you could say they are lesser known. 7 was what got me into the series with it's amazing (For the time) commercial push, and then I got the previous ones in time. Starting with VI(III here).
Those great stories where the joker aspired to be the god of magic and succeeded.
Switch god of magic to mastermind of Gotham through means of chaos.
Then yes, plenty. Its almost as if that character had been doing that archetype on a smaller scale for decades in a more popular series or something.
They even have the jester motif.
Teletraan1
Banned
How about a mainline console entry going back to what made the series what it was rather than all this pandering to the people who never liked turn based games to begin with. As the battle systems gets more and more rote the sales decline. Probably a correlation.
While I appreciate those games and would pick up Bravely Default and its sequel if I could stand playing handhelds (ergonomic issues) it isn't exactly what I was looking for. It is actually an example of the problem I have with this series. They feel that the classic quality gameplay that a lot of people love is only suitable for some lower budget handheld release.
There, you just posted as to why they're totally different; the joker doesn't aspire to be anything, he just acts. Being evil clowns =/= being the same character. Kefka is more like the IT than the Joker.
He does, depends on which joker you are talking about. Its usually some sort of revenge though.
None of this matters though.
As I will say before , and again and again and again.
The best villian is kuja
He just wants his milkshake to keep bringing boys to the yard. No matter what the cost.
There is no Joker that aspires or wants- especially in the long term and doubly so for the mainline one.
The joker wants to break batman or wants batman to " break " ( kill) him. A long with other things.
Maybe I didn't put that in the smartest way (4am, sorry), but I'd rather have them take gameplay inspiration from the good parts of those old FF first and foremost. Wishful thinking if you will.
Also completely forgot they were going to use the old designs though, that's great for sure. And the whole setting you mentioned is still a very valid point (and I like it actually) yet I wish it was not "just" about that.
On the bright side, that's still way better than anything they have done since... well, a very long time.
Scrooge McDuck
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Eh, Kefka's "aspiration" is to spread chaos. It's just that being a God would make it easier for him to do so. With that line of thinking I could say that the Joker's aspiration is to be a criminal mastermind.
No, the Joker does not want to kill or break batman.
SuperAngelo64
Banned
I won't deny what Tabata is saying, but I think a better statement would be that it's taking inspiration from ALL Final Fantasy games pre-FFX.
FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX were heavily inspired by FFIV, FFV, and FFVI, so they're all connected by that thread. That's why we're seeing a lot of FFVII and FFVIII, and influences from past games as well. It's not one or the other.
FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX were heavily inspired by FFIV, FFV, and FFVI, so they're all connected by that thread. That's why we're seeing a lot of FFVII and FFVIII, and influences from past games as well. It's not one or the other.
Sort of agreed. But at this point I also don't know what to make of the game. It seems to no longer be KH in spirit. It doesn't seem to be ATB nor is it FF1/FFX true turn based. Maybe it's most like XII? I really don't know.
I'm excited for the world, story, the open world freedom.
Still very anxious as to the games combat.
They're doing something completely new with the gameplay. That's better than just retreading the same gameplay from before since the lore/themes will already have some similarities with the older games.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
I don't understand how a copy-paste Joker is a "great villain". The only thing people cite, when they say what makes him great is, "well... he like won, sorta!" Being a great villain doesn't hinge on whether the story has written for you to succeed, or else I could write the greatest villain of all time in my 5 page short story, where the villain kills everyone immediately.
So you deny that kefka also is a crazy ass chaos wanting clown
You deny any similarity with the joker in that regard
Then you deny the jokers beef with batman in the firstplace, for making him the joker. That thing he went to extreme lengths to do, like paralyzing Barbra and murdering Jayson just to fuck with him.
We are done here.
PixyJunket
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"I want a traditional turn-based Final Fantasy."
"Here are three of them."
"NO! I want the title screen to say something specific, I want it released on this box, not that box, and I want them to have spent more money making it."
You do know that XV gives you more freedom and control over Noctis than you do any character in any turn based or ATB based FF, right? Not only that but you give commands to your other party members through a menu via a gambit like system, a menu which you can open up at any time during battle to change and edit commands, equipment, set up tandem attacks and such, so you still have control over your other party members and their commands as you set up their commands, priority lists and everything yourself manually.
It's a hybrid of an ADB and Action RPG playstyle.
In the turn based and ATB FFs, you only give one command to a character at any given time, literally forcing you to give up control of a character and move to the next character after you input a single command for a specific character, this is actually less control than you would have in XV with your party.
Noctis himself has a full arsenal of abilities all readily available to you at will with no restriction in how many times you can attack or act as him, you can do everything he can freely without being forced to give up control of him, and since you set up your commands for your party members too that means they are following battle styles you set up yourself.
But Kefka didn't win. At all.
And from what little we saw I'm a bit worried about it.
That being said doing something completely new isn't incompatible with taking inspiration, even if the gameplay itself is different.
Yeah we are since you don't seem to have any particular understanding of what the joker is if you're contradicting yourself.
sixteen-bit
Member
If that was true he would say it was inspired by VII, VIII and X, the best selling and most popular titles in the series. And let's be honest here, the original game was clearly inspired by VII.
NipplesAndToes23
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Watcha talkin about
Dude killed off the majority of the world's population. At that point he was just playing with his food until the party came. I don't think he even cared about dying at that point.
Herb Alpert
Banned
we will see. Seems a fan bait to me. These games are very different, and from what we saw of ffxv, I fail to see the influence.
Nobody hates FF VI, and most of the people who played it before VII think it's the better game. People who haven't played FF VI will simply differ to that opinion and say "Awesome, at least it's going off a classic rather than FF XIII's example". If anything, though, what we've seen of the battle system seems similar to FF VII Crisis core, what we've seen of the areas seems similar to FF XIII in a less whacky vein and what we've heard about their being only one controllable character makes me think that there's no way in hell it would be like FF VI which swapped out main characters pretty often with full party control, instead it once again seems similar to Crisis Core.
Link1110
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I think I may have worded my question badly judging by the replies, so let me give it another go. Back when Versus was first announced, IIRC it was going to play like a Kingdom Hearts game except that it was a FF game. Now that it's FFXV, will the gameplay still be like Kingdom Hearts, or are they making it more like a non action RPG?
Mode 7
Kefka failed at his main objective. He wanted to completely erase everything in existence, leaving absolutely nothing, including himself.
He roasted the planet and killed most of the population, yes, but in the end he was not even close to annihilating everything that exists.
I'd say that the FF villain who came closer to her original plan was Ultimecia.
I'd like to see some statistics, please. Otherwise that is pulled directly from your ass.
Chocobos? Vast overworld with tons of optional dungeons & shit to discover? Possibly airships? Enemies taken straight from old Amano designs? A story focusing on crystals?
I don't get old-school FF vibes from anything they've shown so far, interested to know what inspiration they're taking from those games.
The only way it's NOT taking inspiration from old FFs is the modern-world inspired setting and it is trying to offer a more modern combat system instead of clinging to the past turn-based systems.
supernormal
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FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
With current console level production values.
As long as the story is as clear as the classics, and airships arent just point to point on a map screen. Also I expect hidden dungeons, ultimate weapons, actual shops and not some crafting system.
What enemies have you seen from old Amano designs though? I know FFXIV gets really damn close with Amano designs.