LordKasual
Banned
The NPC Sonia has that hair texture, but it's conveniently hidden under her hat.
I'm really hoping they include some good black hair options. Especially if it's as well animated as the current hair options.
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Final Fantasy XV Multiplayer Expansion - First Look + Closed Beta August 3rd
- Thread starter benzy
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The NPC Sonia has that hair texture, but it's conveniently hidden under her hat.
I'm really hoping they include some good black hair options. Especially if it's as well animated as the current hair options.
Death Penalty
Member
Playing this reminds me how much I would adore a co-op Final Fantasy game that lets you play with friends through the story, ugh.
SunhiLegend
Member
SixMachine
Member
Just played all 3 missions. The AI seems pretty weak compared to a player, since they basically let the coeurls and crew wreck havok. The truck eventually died when I was by myself. Since the bosses seem to have tons of hp, maybe just having someone try to get those parrys in to activate warp strike mode to go ham seem pretty effective.
I know most of the default faces were locked but I wish the sliders and adjustments were more pronounced on the face we did get to play around with. I ended up just making my guy freakishly tall and hopping in the chocobo suit and responding only in chocobo emoticons since I didn't really care for my guy's look.
The angry chocobo face is pretty damn good. It's the perfect response to anything your teammates put in chat. I think it is avatar worthy.
I know most of the default faces were locked but I wish the sliders and adjustments were more pronounced on the face we did get to play around with. I ended up just making my guy freakishly tall and hopping in the chocobo suit and responding only in chocobo emoticons since I didn't really care for my guy's look.
The angry chocobo face is pretty damn good. It's the perfect response to anything your teammates put in chat. I think it is avatar worthy.
She's in serious need of conditioner, look at those split ends. Gotta that use that Antialiasing crème suprême beauté.
screaming at this
God I love the effort they went into animating the hair for this.
RustyNails
Member
How good is character creation? Can I create Mr Huggs?
SixMachine
Member
How good is character creation? Can I create Mr Huggs?
Nah, it's mostly 2 faces (one normal face and basically an older looking version of it) and how you blend them together. Then some slight adjustments. Body shape can make you chubby.
AlexFlame116
Member
It was a bad example. That chick is also bouncing around that other one is better cause at least she is walking(?) and it's the same hair type. But whatever.
SixMachine
Member
I never could connect with quick match, but when I choose custom game to host and just let people join me, it ends up working fine. I don't know what it looks like on their end, but mine was smooth.
SoulUnison
Banned
Um, isn't this actually several Final Fantasies?
At the very least, I know IX lets you individually assign characters to different controllers.
Even when i start a custom room and wait out the timer it gives me 3 AI teammates.
Sometimes the timer *doesn't* run out and it acts like it found people, and then... 3 AI teammates.
RikuDawn
Member
I'd like to see stuff besides combat added. Chocobo racing or missions where you have to go around on chocobos. Even though driving isn't the best in FFXV, I'd like to see it added in some way. Missions where you just explore and/or find stuff. Implementing fishing in some kind of way like fishing contests or something.
Also, how are they going to have playable Noctis in this if this is supposed to take place during the time he's gone?
Was it really that hard to understand what he wants ?
Exploring the world and fighting in real time with his friends in a Final Fantasy setting.
As opposed to one player doing everything, exploring alone, and then the others able to control a character during painfully slow battles.
SixMachine
Member
That did happen to me once, when it sent me to Lucis server instead of Niflheim where it usually sent me. I wonder that the conditions to their matching server is. I set the settings for the region to Mine when I make the room, but I wonder what dictates it sending you to Lucis or niflheim or how big it considers your region for connection. Usually if I see a person's name pop up and disappear in the top left, I at least have 1 connection. I had one time I had to kill the game because it seems that the people canceled and it still kept searching and I couldn't talk to Cor to do it over again.
It's janky, but it's more to do during combat when getting ragdolled around and chugging potions while fishing for linkstrikes.
Pointless, sure. That i can understand.
But "Tacked on"?
Everyone's impressions here seems to suggest otherwise.
crashnburn
Member
Best features are by far the chocobo and cactuar stamps for quick chat/emotes. Avatar material if you ask me.
(On mobile so no pics....)
(On mobile so no pics....)
Death Penalty
Member
Yeah, it was pretty awful in Duscae, as well. I'm not sure why they decided to put this system back in but skip out on Duscae's ideas that were actually good, like weapon abilities.
Still though, I'm really pleased with Comrades so far so I won't nitpick the base game too much.
Thanks for that, this is exactly what I meant!
How good is character creation? Can I create Mr Huggs?
As close as I can get it in the beta.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Does the MP let play the whole SP campaign online or are those special MP quests?
SixMachine
Member
Right now in the beta you just going in and choose 1 of 3 mission sets to play. Nothing really saves except the character you created but you can play around with the weapons that are quest rewards on the 2nd mission in the set (they have difference offensive spells and passive effects).
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
So we still don't know how it will end up when the MP is fully up, right?
SixMachine
Member
I assume it will basically be similar with more mission and things to do in the lobby/waiting area. There is a lot of locked up stuff (like stuff you can interact but they say it's not available to use), but it seems PSO-ish in that you talk to the Quest NPC (in this case Cor) and you and your team go into an instance to complete a mission. If they do allow multiplayer in the main game I would be highly surprised.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Does the beta let you voice-chat or at least text-chat?
SixMachine
Member
You have chat commands to bring up pre-sets and chocobo/cactuar emoticons, and you can also voice chat. Though in the parties I played, it seemed that some dude forgot he left his mic on and I could hear him chewing...
Oof, having some buyers remorse here. Technical issues aside, it just wasn't very fun. If you don't like the base combat in XV, I don't think this'll change your mind too much.
Holding circle to auto attack does not feel good, it's unsatisfying and feels slow unless you're using the twin daggers. There is not much feedback (unless you charge an attack with a heavy weapon) when you attack something and a lot of times my character is still swinging at something already dead if it's a smaller mob. This is probably more of a beef with the base combat of the actual game though
In a full party, all of the smaller mobs die too quick and you'll end up warp striking to an already dead enemy. Then a boss with a big amount of HP appears and you'll all group up to take it down, I really thought this part was going to be fun. Playing with actual living people doesn't feel like a collaborative experience so far and it didn't add much to the experience. It feels as messy as playing some of the single player stuff except with actual people, and that's all it really feels like. I thought that was going to be as fun as it sounds but it feels pretty dull.
The missions are pretty basic and usually take place within a very small area that you cannot leave. My last mission was to take down 2 behemoths in a small arena and of course, we died, but even had we won, it seemed like the process to win would've been a hit and run strategy which seems like it would consist of warp striking to safety and warp striking back until you have to warp away again. Not exactly highly strategical stuff. Then again, I didn't really get a grip on how those skills attached to weapons work.
The leveling and upgrading gear seems like it could be fun in the long run though and perhaps this beta doesn't really 'demo' well since you can't keep any of your loot or exp.
Holding circle to auto attack does not feel good, it's unsatisfying and feels slow unless you're using the twin daggers. There is not much feedback (unless you charge an attack with a heavy weapon) when you attack something and a lot of times my character is still swinging at something already dead if it's a smaller mob. This is probably more of a beef with the base combat of the actual game though
In a full party, all of the smaller mobs die too quick and you'll end up warp striking to an already dead enemy. Then a boss with a big amount of HP appears and you'll all group up to take it down, I really thought this part was going to be fun. Playing with actual living people doesn't feel like a collaborative experience so far and it didn't add much to the experience. It feels as messy as playing some of the single player stuff except with actual people, and that's all it really feels like. I thought that was going to be as fun as it sounds but it feels pretty dull.
The missions are pretty basic and usually take place within a very small area that you cannot leave. My last mission was to take down 2 behemoths in a small arena and of course, we died, but even had we won, it seemed like the process to win would've been a hit and run strategy which seems like it would consist of warp striking to safety and warp striking back until you have to warp away again. Not exactly highly strategical stuff. Then again, I didn't really get a grip on how those skills attached to weapons work.
The leveling and upgrading gear seems like it could be fun in the long run though and perhaps this beta doesn't really 'demo' well since you can't keep any of your loot or exp.
pentium486
Neo Member
That's the problem with all sorts of publishers advertising their betas as "demos" and using them as such. Because of this most people will think of this right here as a demo as well and not a real beta test, which it actually is.
It's literally called closed beta test.
Not " hey everyone come try out our demo ! It's super representative of the final product ! "
edgefusion
Member
I haven't been able to get into any combat yet, but it's nice to play as a character who isn't constantly stumbling over things and flailing about like he just learnt to walk.
PshycoNinja
Member
Funny thing is that even though we all, including myself, have called it a beta it isn't called a beta. It calls itself a "Closed Online Test".
Weapons have different attacks based on directional imput.
The Shirukin let you airstep/dance, for example (which can be used to dodge while still attacking).
Holding back while attacking with the sword dashes backwards then charges a lunge attack.
Some weapons that drop add different magic and effects.
There's a lot of room for potential here.
The combat is great, imo, but it needs development. It all depends how far they take this.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Severs are pretty bad
FriskyrumX
Banned
https://twitter.com/FFXVEN/status/893490498026979328
Note: The test going on now is still running till the 8th, they're just adding those days for more testing.
Note: The test going on now is still running till the 8th, they're just adding those days for more testing.
giancarlo123x
Banned
That's awesome. Looking forward to when this works much better.
FriskyrumX
Banned
Yup, I mean it was decent for me on Lucis, was having some issues here and there, but Niflheim just wasn't working at all for me when ever I got paired into it.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
O ok that's good than
I bought the season pass for this :X
Thanks for the tips. I am going to try it out again tonight. It just felt pretty sloppy last night. Although, I did play it pretty late at night once I got home and I only gave it one fair shake.
When it releases? Maybe not, but the way this game's been developed post-launch gives us a decent chance it'll happen later.
LordKasual
Banned
The changes to the combat are honestly alot more than I was expecting.
I almost feel as though they're likely to roll these changes into the main game in a full rebalance at some point with a future patch.
Like, so much of this would make sense with the main game.
The way the Sigils alone work, combined with the Offensive / Curative magic system that changes depending on your current weapon....it's a logical step forward from the way Noctis currently plays. The created characters need to equip those things. But Noctis could switch between them on the fly just by equipping said royal arm.
It would be neat to take the current Sigil passives and just make them stacking unlockables on the current Armiger ascension grid. Like, a node that unlocks airstep for all of the royal arms. Another that unlocks a stronger healing spell, ect ect.
Alot of the Royal Arm special passives would make more sense as toggled abilities too. Like the Sword of the Mystic / Father buffs being switched to L2+Triangle when equipped, instead of being weapon pauses. Weapons without airstep / evasion cancels (Axe, Shield, ect) could instead be useful by changing your L2 abilities.
As it currently stands, the most useful application for 90% of the royal arms in the game is to serve as passive stat buffs when they're equipped to Noctis. Not necessarily as weapons to be actually used in combat, they're usually too slow, and the ones that do adequate damage actively kill you.
By rolling the current system into the game, they can instead just have the Royal Arms consume MP instead of HP (like they originally did). It would make more sense then because in the Comrades gameplay, MP is a much more valuable resource. They could then nerf items (or at least the amount you can carry) and the game would just be much better off for it.
The main issue with vanilla FFXV is how trivial it is to ignore damage taken. The game gives you options to increase defense, but there's little reason to pay attention to it, because even if you're fighting something that one-shots your entire team, getting back on your feet is just too easy with items. And options like Regroup are just a clunky way to do the same thing.
PshycoNinja
Member
I am not sure, but I'm personally okay with how it is set up right now. Sorta PSO-like with many unique features added by XV combat.