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Finally: Freeloader for Wii

Jaded Alyx said:
I meant the Nintendo titles bricking the Wiis with their preloaded firmware updates. eg. if say in the future NTSC Animal Crossing comes with new firmware on the disc, and it installs it to my PAL Wii.

Oh, now I get it. That is an interesting question! Hm...
 
batbeg said:
Yeah, it specifically says it does so no worries :D That was actually my main reason for being excited about it, to play through BKO properly now :D :D :D

Yeah, I was just about to 'nm' my post since it was a pretty dumb question, the answer's right there in the product description. This is indeed a glorious day.
 
Jaded Alyx said:
I meant the Nintendo titles bricking the Wiis with their preloaded firmware updates. eg. if say in the future NTSC Animal Crossing comes with new firmware on the disc, and it installs it to my PAL Wii.

If it works like the Gamecube version of Freeloader, Freeloader is the actual software that the system will load first, not the game.

So when you put Freeloader in, thats what the disc channel will pick up. Import games won't have a chance to ask you to install an update.
 
Jaded Alyx said:
I meant the Nintendo titles bricking the Wiis with their preloaded firmware updates. eg. if say in the future NTSC Animal Crossing comes with new firmware on the disc, and it installs it to my PAL Wii.

If you are up to the latest version it doesn´t update. Normally the updates are released at the same time worldwide (maybe 2 days later)

So no worry.
 
radioheadrule83 said:
If it works like the Gamecube version of Freeloader, Freeloader is the actual software that the system will load first, not the game.

So when you put Freeloader in, thats what the disc channel will pick up. Import games won't have a chance to ask you to install an update.

I hope it works this way.

Don't see why it wouldn't though. It would be interesting to see if games that REQUIRE a firmware update will be playable after loading up the Freeloader.
 
radioheadrule83 said:
If it works like the Gamecube version of Freeloader, Freeloader is the actual software that the system will load first, not the game.

So when you put Freeloader in, thats what the disc channel will pick up. Import games won't have a chance to ask you to install an update.

I was about to respond the same until I realized what he meant. Let's say you import Animal Crossing from US, it installs firmware 3.x2NTSC. Will that brick the system, as it's trying to update from 3.x1PAL? I think that's what he means, anyway.

Linkzg said:
thanks.

but does anyone know if this site is legit and all that? or should I just wait for play asia or ncsx to get it?

Probably no harm in waiting, but I've bought stuff from the UK branch of the site before, at least.
 
samratty said:
A lot, I assume.
MK will be around £40 probably, which is like $80, then add on shipping and possible import tax charges.

It's only £34.99 from Gameplay. And I don't think they have import taxes in the US. But the shipping will be large because the game includes the wheel.
 
I actually don't care about importing Wii games yet, but I would kill (or just buy Freeloader) for the abillity to buy&play NTCS Gamecube games. Jesus, those PAL games are way to expensive
 
batbeg said:
I was about to respond the same until I realized what he meant. Let's say you import Animal Crossing from US, it installs firmware 3.x2NTSC. Will that brick the system, as it's trying to update from 3.x1PAL? I think that's what he means, anyway.

What radiohead is saying is that the GCN freeloader booted and displayed a screen which told you to insert the game.

It's possible that the Wii Freeloader will be loaded from the disc channel, then you'll remove it and insert the import, not having to go to the disc channel again, thus the game won't prompt you to update the firmware.

I think.
 
batbeg said:
You could give me a blowjob?

Seriously though, if you have paypal (assuming you do as you mention eBay) there may be a gaffer willing to buy it for you if you paypal them the money or something? I'm afraid I can't offer, as I'm now down to £30 for the next few weeks :lol
Yeah, I have Paypal. If someone was willing to buy one of these for me I'd be in their debt forever.

Dascu said:
You still need a credit card for PayPal, whereas you can shop on eBay using normal wire transfers.
That's news to me. I didn't need a credit card when I signed up for PayPal. Or did you mean something else?
 
Fenix said:
What radiohead is saying is that the GCN freeloader booted and displayed a screen which told you to insert the game.

It's possible that the Wii Freeloader will be loaded from the disc channel, then you'll remove it and insert the import, not having to go to the disc channel again, thus the game won't prompt you to update the firmware.

I think.

No, that doesn't make sense though. Some games require a firmware update, it isn't simply a matter of passing it up. Unless Nintendo are dumber than I thought, which given a lot of their design choices, is completely possible.

Of course, at this point everything is very much so speculative. Those who are worried should probably just wait and see how it works, and those of us who are stupid will be the guinea pigs (though I'm not instantly importing Wii games as I like the funding).

Kyosuke said:
Yeah, I have Paypal. If someone was willing to buy one of these for me I'd be in their debt forever.

Well, see if you can get someone to help you out hopefully :) I was actually going to suggest I could do it despite my monetary problems, but I remember my account got hacked a while back and I've still not activated it ¬.¬ Sorry :(
 
Sweet, came up with 0.00 shipping from us.codejunkies.com...

they didn't have my old info though...i found that weird...i bought several max drive pro's off of them.
 
Fenix said:
What radiohead is saying is that the GCN freeloader booted and displayed a screen which told you to insert the game.

It's possible that the Wii Freeloader will be loaded from the disc channel, then you'll remove it and insert the import, not having to go to the disc channel again, thus the game won't prompt you to update the firmware.

I think.

Exactly. I think the Wii Menu simply prevents access to the discs executable until you install the update software, but with Freeloader, you should (theoretically) bypass that check. Go to a Freeloader 'insert disc' screen and go straight into booting the executable.

I hope I'm right.

The idea that Europeans might cause lag in US online games is interesting. Does Smash not have a connection quality indicator before you accept a game, like Mario Strikers?
 
batbeg said:
No, that doesn't make sense though. Some games require a firmware update, it isn't simply a matter of passing it up. Unless Nintendo are dumber than I thought, which given a lot of their design choices, is completely possible.

Of course, at this point everything is very much so speculative. Those who are worried should probably just wait and see how it works, and those of us who are stupid will be the guinea pigs (though I'm not instantly importing Wii games as I like the funding).

Yeah, I remarked earlier that it would be interesting to see if the games that required updates would still work if the scenario we're discussing is the correct one.

Somehow I feel that the game itself does not require the updated firmware... but we shall see.
 
Good! Now Media Works should get to work on a Iriya no Sora game for the Wii.

A fun fan tribute title like the PAROCAP mini-game in Iriya II was on the DS. Except a FULL game this time. And get Hiroshi Takagi to compose an epic soundtrack! His Iriya OVA work was incredible.
 
radioheadrule83 said:
Exactly. I think the Wii Menu simply prevents access to the discs executable until you install the update software, but with Freeloader, you should (theoretically) bypass that check. Go to a Freeloader 'insert disc' screen and go straight into booting the executable.

I hope I'm right.
I hope you're right.
 
Fenix said:
Yeah, I remarked earlier that it would be interesting to see if the games that required updates would still work if the scenario we're discussing is the correct one.

Somehow I feel that the game itself does not require the updated firmware... but we shall see.

It may not, this is true. I remember reading on a site that someone said if you unplug the Wii during a mandatory update, that you could then play the game that required the update. However, I only ever saw this once and it's sure as hell not something I'm going to try :lol But if that, or something close to it, is true, then clearly Nintendo were practically begging for bypasses to be made on the Wii :D

I've already bought the damn thing anyway, so I don't know why I care to talk about what may happen.

One of my favorite things about this new Freeloader is definitely that it works on all three systems though. First of all, this tells me Datel did some MAJOR mojo, as the original Freeloader could still only work in the right regions. Hopefully it means they have really worked up a fool-proof system which won't be firmwared. But also is that as I visit family in America a lot, or them me, I can bring my games over there with my Freeloader now :D :D :D

So psyched.
 
Linkzg said:
thanks.

but does anyone know if this site is legit and all that? or should I just wait for play asia or ncsx to get it?

what site? Codejunkies? then yes -- they are owned by Datel (the developers of the product).
 
Quick question.

If firmware kills the functionality of Freeloader, can you reformat Wii to undo the updates? If so, with SD cards, can't I transfer saved game data over, wipe my Wii, and play Freeloader titles again? And when I want to play newer games or go online, do the update, and just reformat each time I want to play imports?

Just curious.
 
TSA said:
Quick question.

If firmware kills the functionality of Freeloader, can you reformat Wii to undo the updates? If so, with SD cards, can't I transfer saved game data over, wipe my Wii, and play Freeloader titles again? And when I want to play newer games or go online, do the update, and just reformat each time I want to play imports?

Just curious.

No, otherwise we would've been able to do that with the Gamecube Freeloader all along for GCN imports. The firmware is written to a completely different part of the Wii than the memory you can format, basically (interestingly, I think someone once said Mii data or something is also on that part?).
 
TSA said:
Quick question.

If firmware kills the functionality of Freeloader, can you reformat Wii to undo the updates? If so, with SD cards, can't I transfer saved game data over, wipe my Wii, and play Freeloader titles again? And when I want to play newer games or go online, do the update, and just reformat each time I want to play imports?

Just curious.
Not possible, unless we get some sort of firmware downgrader/custom firmware come along.
 
Wasn't what Nintendo said regarding the GC freeloader on wii that it not working was unintentional, they just had no reason to worry about fixing it since it was unofficial anyway?
 
webrunner said:
Wasn't what Nintendo said regarding the GC freeloader on wii that it not working was unintentional, they just had no reason to worry about fixing it since it was unofficial anyway?

Yeah.

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And fucking Nintendo said it, so they're not the most trustworthy source on whether or not it was intentional, now are they? It may have been true... maybe not. We'll find out in the coming months, most likely.
 
Holy shit, this is the greatest timing evar. I'm moving to JP in like three weeks and was kinda bummed I was going to have to pick up another Wii to play the local stuff. I just hope this ships before I leave.
 
batbeg said:
Yeah.

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And fucking Nintendo said it, so they're not the most trustworthy source on whether or not it was intentional, now are they? It may have been true... maybe not. We'll find out in the coming months, most likely.

But, what I mean is - I can't think of any conceivable reason why they would lie. If they really did break it on purpose, saying "The Wii is not to support unlicensed software, and freeloader is merely no exception" would only annoy the people who have the freeloader and they're already annoyed anyway by the "whoops", plus it would look better to stockholders and everything. This way opens them up to possible lawsuits from Datel, from people seeing them as amaturish, etc.

There's no just reason to ever say something that self-damaging unless it's the truth.
 
Oh maaann so long I've been waiting :D :D :D


I don't care about the updates, I'd buy that even if it only allowed me to play No More Heroes US :lol
 
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