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[Brera]

Oh STFU already. Are you even buying an Xbox One?

I own a launch duke and a 360!

I won't be getting a bone for a while though but haven't written it off yet.

I'm hoping for a Perfect Dark sequel...

 

[StudioTan]

Yeah right

This one is better:

Are you blind? There is no comparison. The IQ, model and shaders are much better in Forza 5.

 

[TrueGrime]

There is so damn much the separates Forza from GT and DC besides resolution, textures and lighting that I don't even understand the comparisons. They each represent entirely different design philosophies through and through and as such will be wildly different experiences for those who play them.

This.... times 1000.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Everything else looks fine. But that cotton wool bloom should be banished to last-gen and burned.

Large GIF, lovely bit of subtle cloud at the peak:

Stunning. I'm stunned by how good it looks. I can't begin to imagine how good Horizon 2 will look...

 

[dragonelite]

Guys,

I think we need to discuss this like adults instead of "lol joke post" and "lawlz troll thread".

Basically, MS are releasing a half assed up res Forza 4 on their next gen console and expecting top dollar.

This needs to be a $40 dollar release or even $19.99 like Prologue was on PS3.

Not sure if serious or payed/free sony shill?

 

[shandy706]

Yeah, cube maps, we had them since ps1.

Welcome to 1999.

Do you two even know what I'm talking about...lol

I've never seen a game where the ROAD SIGN reflects the environment.

I'm not talking about the car reflecting the road sign. DERP

 

[not_so_special]

doesnt look that good or anything special,but at least its 60 fps

 

[phosphor112]

There is so damn much the separates Forza from GT and DC besides resolution, textures and lighting that I don't even understand the comparisons. They each represent entirely different design philosophies through and through and as such will be wildly different experiences for those who play them.

Pretty much. The comparison of the two games is stupid.

 

[Xanadu]

such varying opinions in here, some say it looks like forza 4 while others say its stunning, weird!

 

[Snubbers]

Since we've exhausted the crappy compress video, the meltdowns are getting as hilarious as the Vs thread..

 

[Gestault]

doesnt look that good or anything special

not_so_special
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I find this acceptable.

 

[Subie_Greg]

reflective road signs = next gen

Now you know what why it's $499.99

lol j/k

Drive club has reflective wind shields and the like. So does that = more next gen???

 

[amar212]

Are you blind? There is no comparison. The IQ, model and shaders are much better in Forza 5.

My God, this has started already.

What will happen in 60 days? Even Bish will not be able to contain this. Not to even think about DriveClub having a PhotoMode..

Where is FordGTGuy when we need him?

 

[psn]

Looks good for a launch game, Turn 10 is really doing a great job. I may get one when there is a version without kinect for ~300..

 

[phosphor112]

Do you two even know what I'm talking about...lol

I've never seen a game where the ROAD SIGN reflects the environment.

I'm not talking about the car reflecting the road sign. DERP

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cubemap

 

[not_so_special]

such varying opinions in here, some say it looks like forza 4 while others say its stunning, weird!

when you get cheapy d and the guys of CAG not impressed by this game on the last TGS,you know something its not right,these guys are ubber xbox fanboys and cheapy its a big forza fan

 

[shandy706]

reflective road signs = next gen

Now you know what why it's $499.99

lol j/k

Drive club has reflective wind shields and the like. So does that = more next gen???

So does Forza 5. So sure.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cubemap

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Just hadn't seen it on something as insignificant as a road sign. I notice those little things

I'm not commenting on the technique, or it being a new idea, only in that I've never seen it on a HUGE road sign in a racing game.

 

[ShamePain]

Do you two even know what I'm talking about...lol

I've never seen a game where the ROAD SIGN reflects the environment.

I'm not talking about the car reflecting the road sign. DERP

Same technique my friend.

 

[StudioTan]

reflective road signs = next gen

Now you know what why it's $499.99

lol j/k

Drive club has reflective wind shields and the like. So does that = more next gen???

So does Forza:

My God, this has started already.

Yeah and I'm not usually the type to care enough to take the time to mock up a comparison but I was so flabbergasted that he couldn't see the differences I had to respond.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

I'm not as impressed as I thought I'd be, but I think that's mostly due to the youtube compression.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

beaten

 

[phosphor112]

reflective road signs = next gen

Now you know what why it's $499.99

lol j/k

Drive club has reflective wind shields and the like. So does that = more next gen???

Forza has them.

So does Forza 5. So sure.

You still don't know what cubemapping is.

 

[shinobi602]

My God, this has started already.

What will happen in 60 days? Even Bish will not be able to contain this. Not to even think about DriveClub having a PhotoMode..

Forza 5 vs Driveclub

The thread, the fanboy cries and tears will be glorious.

 

[not_so_special]

I'm not as impressed as I thought I'd be, but I think that's mostly due to the youtube compression.

well thats true..and the inside view its way more spectacular,but i see jaggies on the white strips on the road,very noticeable and distracting

 

[shandy706]

Forza has them.


You still don't know what cubemapping is.

Scroll up for my response trollman, I have worked and am currently working in the design of a game.





Anyway, some side by sides. Obviously a big difference here...sorry about compression level.

Same exact curve, Forza 5 on left of course.

 

[Xanadu]

Scroll up for my response trollman, I have worked and am currently working in the design of a game.





Anyway, some side by sides. Obviously a big difference here...sorry about compression level.

Same exact curve, Forza 5 on left of course.

the best thing is the chase cam position, i never use it but its a lot better than 4s

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Forza 5 vs Driveclub

The thread, the fanboy cries and tears will be glorious.

Shinobi your avatar continues to be so apropo.

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

well thats true..and the inside view its way more spectacular,but i see jaggies on the white strips on the road,very noticeable and distracting

It's a really good looking game. For me, I think the laws of diminishing returns is kicking in for graphics. That goes for both consoles, really. But I'm no polygon whore.

 

[phosphor112]

Scroll up for my response trollman, I have worked and am currently working in the design of a game.

EDIT: I see it now. And these type of cube maps have been used for a long time on many objects. Hell, Source engine used them on almost every object. You bake the scene, it automatically renders the cube map based on where you designate it to be.

 

[ShamePain]

Yeah and I'm not usually the type to care enough to take the time to mock up a comparison but I was so flabbergasted that he couldn't see the differences I had to respond.

Consider this, the scene in GT5 has more polygons than the scene in FM5 and runs on inferior hardware. The models in FM5 are somewhat better due to modelling of engine/boot, but the little details and material shaders are still better recreated in GT.
This comparison shows that models while good, are not that accurate in the smallest details.

And GT5 has stuff like this

 

[l2ounD]

Are you blind? There is no comparison. The IQ, model and shaders are much better in Forza 5.

Forza 5 models should be better, next gen and all, to be fair though the reflections in GT5 looks like its reflects its actual location, the Forza pic looks like its just using a cubemap trying to fake it.

Hoodview gif though... best thing i've seen so far, hope it continues!

 

[bud]

Are you blind? There is no comparison. The IQ, model and shaders are much better in Forza 5.

are they of the exact same model? because there are a few differences.

 

[a916]

That Youtube compression.... game looks sick though.

 

[Shaunboy97]

The way the carbon fiber reflects the light on the hood cam is F'n NUTZ!!

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Are we seriously doing a GT5 vs FM5 comparison?? I thought the GT6 vs DriveClub comparisons were stupid but this.... what the hell, people?

 

[Subie_Greg]

I am aware Forza has it as well.

My point has been that it's what next gen really is. Not a huge graphical leap in and of itself. But rather the bigger more detailed worlds.

And a lot of those details don't get judged with the consumer eye test.

Good news is the titles we've seen past the launch titles (Infamous and Titan Fall) don't seem to suffer from the failing of the eye test

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

I think it doesnt look good at all, I thought it looked way way better.

Driveclub looks much better.

Is there a reason for the mountains to be full of snow, and the road perfectly clean ?

The only improvement I can really see is the reflections, though I dont thing the hood of the car would reflect the lines on the road.

 

[shandy706]

the scene in GT5 has more polygons than the scene in FM5

You have no idea if that's true or not...please stop

 

[Naked Lunch]

So this is what console launches are like around here eh? I remember fist fights over sonic v mario arguments in middle school. Now we've come to nitpicking over damn near photorealistic screen shots, heh...
Forza looks incredible. Im not sure if its jealously or just some serious salt. Im a fan of both games but Forza dethroned GT several years ago in graphics and especially gameplay. GT's physics especially its collisions are compete shit and GT6 doesnt look to improve this. XB1 and F5 day one.

 

[derFeef]

I think it doesnt look good at all, I thought it looked way way better.

Driveclub looks much better.

Is there a reason for the mountains to be full of snow, and the road perfectly clean ?

Is this a serious question? I am amazed of GAF today, this thread is marking a sad day.

 

[plainr_]

Looks gorgeous. I'm not usually impressed with chase cam footage for any game but this looks nice. Car is so shiny!

 

[Erasus]

Oh, and don't forget - Forza 5 has little to no 2D smoke, GT5/6 has lots of volumetric smoke with shadowing. So nextgen
http://i.minus.com/iBD8SOQZP3eN0.gif

GT6 looks impressive, esp as it is 1080p at 60fps (sorta...)

But it does not look like that in-game. At all.

 

[intheinbetween]

I love that background theme, though it seemed to me more suitable for a JRPG, lol

 

[Killroyskbg]

Like i said earlier I am not trying to bash the game and it looks good but the differences from Forza 4 to 5 is not that great according to me.

For example this is a comparison from GT4 to 5 (ps2 to ps3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHe73Uh22xA

I was hoping of large improvements and I personally cant see that the case here. Yes i know it was going from SD to HD and diminishing returns but still. I also don´t think DC is better or worse but because its Forza one of Xbox largest franchises i was expecting this to be spectacular as a show off product.

 

[ShapeGSX]

Is there a reason for the mountains to be full of snow, and the road perfectly clean ?

It snowed last week, and they have plows.

 

[ShamePain]

If you show this image to someone without the logo, I think it can be easily mistaken for a photo. Can't say the same about any of Forza's images.

 

[phosphor112]

The way the carbon fiber reflects the light on the hood cam is F'n NUTZ!!

Yeah, I really like that. It's a normal map, but the normal maps are getting high enough quality that we can pull it off, and not just look like a bumpy compressed mess.

 

[shandy706]

Like i said earlier I am not trying to bash the game and it looks good but the differences from Forza 4 to 5 is not that great according to me.

For example this is a comparison from GT4 to 5 (ps2 to ps3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHe73Uh22xA

I was hoping of large improvements and I personally cant see that the case here. Yes i know it was going from SD to HD and diminishing returns but still. I also don´t think DC is better or worse but because its Forza one of Xbox largest franchises i was expecting this to be spectacular as a show off product.

See this image I posted.

Same curve, it's a definite upgrade...in both detail, lighting, and in resolution (granted res doesn't show here..lol).

 

[dragonelite]

Isn't there a thread for GT vs Forza stuff?

 

[piggychan]

You need to come drive here in TX when the sun is rising, at mid-day, and setting to realize that there is nothing artificial about being blinded by the sun.

I find that even Grand Theft Auto 5 blinds the player not just Turn 10.... Anyway F5 game is looking very good.