Impactful how? As you said, he was basically a nobody. The only thing that Snyder did was piss off fans and kill off a centric Superman character that could've been used in a future solo Superman movie.
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Impactful how? As you said, he was basically a nobody. The only thing that Snyder did was piss off fans and kill off a centric Superman character that could've been used in a future solo Superman movie.
I didn't really like it. But by this point Im passed complaining. If its gonna be this way, then dial that shit to 11, because despite the differences in opinion on the degree of his savagery the warehouse scene was awesome so /shrug.
SilentRacoon
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Just imagine his reaction when he realizes one of his poor victims name was Marth.
Did anyone expect anything less?
Most people who watched the movie saw the theatrical cut on their first/only viewing, where he is literally nobody; you don't get his name at all, and the only time "Jimmy Olsen" appears in the movie is in the end credits. So there's no "whoa, they just killed Jimmy Olsen!" moment. It's more of a "...that guy was Jimmy Olsen?" reaction, about three hours afterward.
The Answer is Martha
broncobuster
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I think like with Loki, the main thrust of the movie is about the team coming together. So they went with a less important villain in Steppenwolf as to not overshadow the Justice League.
Guess which film I am talking about, after an incident in Africa where many peope lost their lives due to actions beyond their control by an unhinged puppet master. Returning secretaries of state blame super powered individuals for incidents in Africa. Politicians want to hold individuals to account whilst said puppet masters manipulates them behind the scenes. In the two hour+ of the film new characters are introduced to set up for future films, one of these new comers is a bridge builder between the warring parties and one of the parties has a PTSD style pause at the mention of a name!
The fuck is thia shit gtfo with calculus in my cbm threads Jesus hahaha
Do it Zynder
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Not even close. He's a new god which means he's basically an alien. The forces of nature are more scary on the dc universe.
aren't you a dc fan?
I /suppose/ that's the anti life equation, but I didn't know it was an actual equation. I'm also allergic to hard math.
In man of steel I think the GL corp would've shown up eventually. Like the only real threat was the world teraformer and that only lasted maybe an hour before Supes stopped it. Doomsday isn't even worth their time
Dash_Riprock
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Artifact hunting? Are you fucking serious?
For people who don't read comics and only know the films they might as well be. WB had almost 50 years to get a DC universe off the ground.
For people who don't read comics and only know the films they might as well be. WB had almost 50 years to get a DC universe off the ground.
Wag
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The other way- Thanos is the Marvel Darkseid. Darkseid came first and Marvel copied off DC (but you wouldn't know it because DC's movie universe sucks).
SargerusBR
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This might shock you, but Macguffins were in movies long before the MCU
Killer Queen
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Civil War.
Luthor wanted Superman to be held accountable but the politicians didn't care and i don't remember anyone blaming said incident on Superman outside of luthor, who himself is not a politician. Wonder Woman also wasn't a bridge builder between the warring parties, she was just kinda there.
But again why not take it a step further
There were capes
And cgi!
A third act with the climactic fight!
People also died!
The more vague you get, the more things you can fit under your umbrella of similarities.
There was a movie with super powered individuals that fought against an evil force, the hero(S) hailed from the united States, they fought against villainous characters, there were jokes made
Which movie am I talking about?
Ignatz Mouse
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Pretty much my reaction here, too.
I get it, a lot of people hate the DCEU movies so far (and I don't really love them myself, I just don't hate them) but the snowball is in full effect.
Eh... Justice League has been in the pop culture in one form or another for like 40 years between Super Friends, Justice LEague, Smallville and other things.
So I don't think it will be a concern for many. The villains will be a bigger deal, but eh won't matter to most people.
Dash_Riprock
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OMFG "Both sides are teh same!" has entered comic book film debates.
Just shoot me right now.
I agree. Just find it amusing so many people angry about the confusion when the average movie goer (and really, a lot of nerds too who only know about characters from films/cartoons/what they read online) will have no idea.
Killer Queen
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In what way am I advocating that both sides are the same?
I'm literally arguing the opposite
thehypocrite
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Good, more for me.
Do it Zynder
yo dis the anti-life equ?
dont worry lego superman will be coming soon
MisterHero
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Darkseid wants to marry a math equation?
Do it Zynder
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Yes. And Thanos wants to marry a concept. Space dictators are weird like that.
Lois needs to be rescued and be plot advancer just a few times first.
I think he was agreeing with you.
Gordon Shumway
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Will they actually care though? it's not like it's going to be 1:1 the same film. Darkseid sits on normal house chairs while Thanos sits atop a giant floating stone thing.
Team Filler
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Would be great to have a moment in the movies where Thanos sidles up to Death acting all "hey girl lets get together", and Death goes "I've already got a boyfriend" and points over to a picture of Wade Wilson's fuck-ugly face with a bunch of hearts drawn all over it. Thanos walks away showing his forever alone face while Simon & Garfunkel's Sound of Silence plays in the background.
MisterHero
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broncobuster
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I doubt it'll matter. Before Avengers came out it was said to be ripping off Transformers. And would anyone be surprised if there's a blue laser shooting into the sky in Justice League? There's so much crossover in summer blockbusters beyond Marvel and DC properties that a big bad guy like Thanos, or Darkseid, or Unicron, or Lord Zedd, or Snoke, or Sauron, or Voldemort, and so on. It is what it is and I can't imagine general audiences care.
ElBoxyBrown
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Lord Virgin
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Sounds boring, just like that SDCC trailer. Goddamnit WB.
Marthseid?
Are you kidding me? One I was talking about both movies. 2) Lex believed that Superman was basically the problem of evil made flesh and he has trouble believing Superman can be all powerful and all good. He saw him as a tyrant in waiting. Swanwick (the black general who was promoted to secretary of state just like Thunderbolt Ross). Also I guess you can say no one blamed the Africa incident on Superman, if you ignore the senate hearing wanting to talk about Superman's role in the world, the press who sday he incited an international incident, Bruce Wayne, Protests at the Senate hearing and I think that about covers it. You don't see Wonder Woman as a bridge builder when she helped them fight Doomsday?
This video explains it better than I can
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDc_bMs7fFs
NeonZ
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And Darkseid's methods never involved running after Mother Boxes. The New Gods generally just have those. This is something specifically for this movie.
Apokolips and focusing on Darkseid as a god should be enough to make him stand out from Thanos, and yet here they're seemingly avoiding Apokolips and presenting Darkseid as an alien. Basically making the entire scenario unnecessarily close to Thanos' when they could easily have differentiated them more.
Killer Queen
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I know you were talking about both movies, but you're attempt at being clever was incorrect and this your entire argument fell flat, not that it had much to stand on in the first place. But I honestly don't care that much, this isn't an argument worth having. Fact of the matter is, with a vague enough description you can have it describe anything. The movies are more different than they are similar when within (keyword here) reasonable parameters. Of course there's going to be some overlap, and I'm not denying that, I'm denying it to the extent of which the two of you are exaggerating. It's a bottom of the barrel argument and its ridiculous. To hopefully show you just how ridiculous said statement is, I've made more absurd and hyperbolic statements to compare fairly inconsequential similarities and act as if they're important.
But to address your points against my argument. Wonder Woman isnt the bridge builder, Martha is (and yes everyone knows it's fucking silly) Batman and Superman would've fought Doomsday together whether or not she was there, her presence had no bearing on the two working together, she just happened to be there. At that point they had already agreed to being buds, Wonder Woman didn't stop them from fighting or did she even give a shit.
Lex and Wayne aren't politicians no matter which way you spin it
No one but Luthor advocated for Superman to have a deterrent or act with restraint.
And thus once more, the similarities between the two films are few and far between, again when in reasonable parameters and the few similarities they do have are executed and expanded on very differently.
So once more, they're not the same film and are barely comparable outside of superficial similarities and the fact that they're both comic book movies with heroes fighting against other heroes. Any other similarities they share outside of the few poor ones already mentioned aren't exclusive to either film or even comic book films in general.
Motherboxes or Fatherboxes are pretty much 4th world ipods. they can make them on a whim.
And another one was named Nowi.
Senator Finch that woman who Lex place his piss to near the start of the meeting said "we are gathered here today to ask, must there be a Superman". She initially saw him as responsible for the Africa incident based on the witnesses testimony however later on with Lex she Sussed onto to his bullshit and and said "don't call a weapon of assassination and call it deterrence " and she was gonna out Lex at the hearing.
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