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First large-scale test confirms Darwin's theory of universal common ancestry

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More than 150 years ago, Darwin proposed the theory of universal common ancestry (UCA), linking all forms of life by a shared genetic heritage from single-celled microorganisms to humans. Until now, the theory that makes ladybugs, oak trees, champagne yeast and humans distant relatives has remained beyond the scope of a formal test. This week, a Brandeis biochemist reports in Nature the results of the first large scale, quantitative test of the famous theory that underpins modern evolutionary biology.

The results of the study confirm that Darwin had it right all along. In his 1859 book, On the Origin of Species, the British naturalist proposed that, "all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form." Over the last century and a half, qualitative evidence for this theory has steadily grown, in the numerous, surprising transitional forms found in the fossil record, for example, and in the identification of sweeping fundamental biological similarities at the molecular level.

Still, rumblings among some evolutionary biologists have recently emerged questioning whether the evolutionary relationships among living organisms are best described by a single "family tree" or rather by multiple, interconnected trees—a "web of life." Recent molecular evidence indicates that primordial life may have undergone rampant horizontal gene transfer, which occurs frequently today when single-celled organisms swap genes using mechanisms other than usual organismal reproduction. In that case, some scientists argue, early evolutionary relationships were web-like, making it possible that life sprang up independently from many ancestors.

According to biochemist Douglas Theobald, it doesn't really matter. "Let's say life originated independently multiple times, which UCA allows is possible," said Theobald. "If so, the theory holds that a bottleneck occurred in evolution, with descendants of only one of the independent origins surviving until the present. Alternatively, separate populations could have merged, by exchanging enough genes over time to become a single species that eventually was ancestral to us all. Either way, all of life would still be genetically related."

Harnessing powerful computational tools and applying Bayesian statistics, Theobald found that the evidence overwhelmingly supports UCA, regardless of horizontal gene transfer or multiple origins of life. Theobald said UCA is millions of times more probable than any theory of multiple independent ancestries.

"There have been major advances in biology over the last decade, with our ability to test Darwin's theory in a way never before possible," said Theobald. "The number of genetic sequences of individual organisms doubles every three years, and our computational power is much stronger now than it was even a few years ago."

While other scientists have previously examined common ancestry more narrowly, for example, among only vertebrates, Theobald is the first to formally test Darwin's theory across all three domains of life. The three domains include diverse life forms such as the Eukarya (organisms, including humans, yeast, and plants, whose cells have a DNA-containing nucleus) as well as Bacteria and Archaea (two distinct groups of unicellular microorganisms whose DNA floats around in the cell instead of in a nucleus).

Theobald studied a set of 23 universally conserved, essential proteins found in all known organisms. He chose to study four representative organisms from each of the three domains of life. For example, he researched the genetic links found among these proteins in archaeal microorganisms that produce marsh gas and methane in cows and the human gut; in fruit flies, humans, round worms, and baker's yeast; and in bacteria like E. coli and the pathogen that causes tuberculosis.

Theobald's study rests on several simple assumptions about how the diversity of modern proteins arose. First, he assumed that genetic copies of a protein can be multiplied during reproduction, such as when one parent gives a copy of one of their genes to several of their children. Second, he assumed that a process of replication and mutation over the eons may modify these proteins from their ancestral versions. These two factors, then, should have created the differences in the modern versions of these proteins we see throughout life today. Lastly, he assumed that genetic changes in one species don't affect mutations in another species—for example, genetic mutations in kangaroos don't affect those in humans.

What Theobald did not assume, however, was how far back these processes go in linking organisms genealogically. It is clear, say, that these processes are able to link the shared proteins found in all humans to each other genetically. But do the processes in these assumptions link humans to other animals? Do these processes link animals to other eukaryotes? Do these processes link eukaryotes to the other domains of life, bacteria and archaea? The answer to each of these questions turns out to be a resounding yes.

Just what did this universal common ancestor look like and where did it live? Theobald's study doesn't answer this question. Nevertheless, he speculated, "to us, it would most likely look like some sort of froth, perhaps living at the edge of the ocean, or deep in the ocean on a geothermal vent. At the molecular level, I'm sure it would have looked as complex and beautiful as modern life."

http://www.physorg.com/news192882557.html
 

DanteFox

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^^^ lol as if the odds against life arising once weren't astronomically high. what are the odds multiple independent life forms arose AND somehow exchanged DNA?
 

Korey

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ImperialConquest said:
Nope. Sorry... try again.


Web theory > Single tree
Well, they did run a computer simulation or something. Feel free to run one yourself and write an article about it.
 

danwarb

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DanteFox said:
^^^ lol as if the odds against life arising once weren't astronomically high. what are the odds multiple independent life forms arose AND somehow exchanged DNA?
Conditions were apparently just right on the early Earth, so why not multiple times there?

We'll know definitively when/if life is discovered on Europa, Titan, Mars, or anywhere else in the solar system.
 

Pandaman

Everything is moe to me
DanteFox said:
^^^ lol as if the odds against life arising once weren't astronomically high. what are the odds multiple independent life forms arose AND somehow exchanged DNA?
the 'exchange dna' part is a big enough problem by itself.

as a curiosity, can you ballbark the odds of life arising once and multiple times? also provide your reasoning.
 

Mudkips

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ImperialConquest said:
Nope. Sorry... try again.


Web theory > Single tree

If conditions were right for life at one point in time on Earth (obviously they were), it stands to reason that a clump of primordial soup at location A forming the first organism is not somehow fundamentally different from a clump of the same primordial at location B which formed the second organism.

Both organisms would be virtually identical in form and composition, as well.

So while it's doubtful that there is a single individual organism from which all others were subsequently spawned, it doesn't make much difference because they would be genetically identical, and any minor variations between them or their children would be indistinguishable from variations due to selection.

We have thus far NOT seen any evidence that would point to two (or more) distinct branches starting out independently. The best place to go looking for such evidence would be near the vents at the ocean floor, or deep within the Earth's crust. The rest of life on Earth came from the ocean, which was pretty much homogenized in terms of primordial soup contents and conditions for life. The environments at the sea floor are pretty much the only places at the time that were truly isolated from the ocean, and the only places where separate and distinct lines of life could have appeared and fluorished alongside the life forms we know now.
 

SUPREME1

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Mudkips said:
If conditions were right for life at one point in time on Earth (obviously they were), it stands to reason that a clump of primordial soup at location A forming the first organism is not somehow fundamentally different from a clump of the same primordial at location B which formed the second organism.

Both organisms would be virtually identical in form and composition, as well.

So while it's doubtful that there is a single individual organism from which all others were subsequently spawned, it doesn't make much difference because they would be genetically identical, and any minor variations between them or their children would be indistinguishable from variations due to selection.



Ahhhh shaddup!
 

Animosaro

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TestMonkey said:
So how did viruses come into being? In the beginning there was a living organism and an almost living organism?

The distinction between 'living' and 'nonliving' is cell walls, which is arbitrary. Got to have a line somewhere.

Here's a cool link about abiogenesis (initial formation of life, lab-replicated, really short and very watchable):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg
 

Particle Physicist

between a quark and a baryon
TestMonkey said:
So how did viruses come into being? In the beginning there was a living organism and an almost living organism?


'Living' and 'Non-living' are definitions created by man. Even so, there are ongoing debates about the definitions.
 

Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
I’m sorry but that’s just a bunch of scientist talk. The same people who’d have you believe that my great grandfather was a monkey. If he was a monkey, then why was he killed by a monkey?
 

-viper-

Banned
TestMonkey said:
So how did viruses come into being? In the beginning there was a living organism and an almost living organism?
Viruses are essentially protein.

Protein of death. No idea how they arose though. It's weird for something so dead to be able to infect and divide and conquer in host cells.

This 'scientific breakthrough' is hardly convincing to me. Yeah, all life arose from one microbe. Yeah... right.
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
-viper- said:
This 'scientific breakthrough' is hardly convincing to me. Yeah, all life arose from one microbe. Yeah... right.

What do you find about the concept that is diificult to accept?
 

-viper-

Banned
Arment said:
+1 for the Cure of Baldness.

I would quaff that potion.
If curing baldness was even possible it most likely would require genetic manipulation and replacing the 'defective' gene coding for hair loss with a correct one.

You may slow down the progress of balding through various methods, but completely curing it? lawls. it's a pipedream.
 

Lesath

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Under current conventional definitions, viruses aren't categorized as life, as they do not metabolize. That's it; one can say that viruses are more alive than say, the computer you're reading this on.

However, they still possess the same genetic language and can replicate, so their ability to infect and hijack cells shouldn't come off as too surprising.
 

SnakeXs

about the same metal capacity as a cucumber
jon bones said:
yes, and quick. if my dad is any indication, i have about 5 good years left.

then i'm 30.

then i'm boned.

I speed read this post and thought you were 30, and had 5 years left, and was about to say that's not that bad at all.

Then it registered.

Sorry dude.
 

DanteFox

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Pandaman said:
the 'exchange dna' part is a big enough problem by itself.

as a curiosity, can you ballbark the odds of life arising once and multiple times? also provide your reasoning.
"1 in a million, doc. 1 in a million."

the retarded complexity of even the simplest organisms, and even then the odds that they would assemble to form sentient, conscious beings as opposed to organic machines.
 
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