Flying_Phoenix
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ULTROS! said:
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H_Prestige
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^ What the hell is that :lol
Commanche Raisin Toast
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webcivilian said:
though it said pad. ughhh. no sleep.
EDIT: makes me hopeful for games that require you to "grab" things by touching back and front. (pinching gesture)
Trent Strong
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jett said:
It's got me salivating.
jett said:
why would it, sell it at 249 or something like that and see people get it like crazy.
i mean madden nba 2k mlb and shooters with early ps3 graphics on the go is something a lot of people would want.
what would make this perfect is a 3G connection with a friendlist so you can do online play.
and this rumored start the game on your ps3 finish it on your psp2 is amazing as well.
webcivilian
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Omiee said:
With all these features its really going to cost a fortune. $399 maybe.
why i dont see the reasoning behind this, i mean they are selling the ps3 at a profit right, and you know they are not getting 299 cuz retailers have their share.webcivilian said:
and the rumors say the processor is half of what the ps3's is.
i think they could release it for 299 and still make a profit on it or at least breaking even.
webcivilian
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Omiee said:
The reasoning behind this is basically the following factors:
1) R&D cost
2) Higher component cost at the start of cycle
3) Number of components. Re-engineering costs.
I could be wrong with the price assumption but the BOM cost doesn't really attribute to the real cost of any system. PS3's has different type of processor. It was never designed for mobile use. Even if its half the power the doesn't mean they will or can use the same processor or design. They definately can use the CELL architecture but they have to design it so they put in small enclosure with low heat dissipation without active cooling.
Just messing around. Even Nintendo calls DS carts "Game Cards", not cartridges.Manmademan said:
GBA carts are memory-mapped devices (as were all previous consoles/handheld carts), while DS cards are block-devices.Commanche Raisin Toast said:
Memory-mapped devices are like read-only RAM: the system can directly access any data in the cart as if it were in memory. Pros: can use data directly from cart without copying to RAM, usually with fast access times. Cons: the cartridge port limits the cart capacity (unless additional mapping hardware is used), needs tons of connection pins and limit types of storage technology that can be used.
Block devices use a serial interface: data is grouped in blocks, and the system needs to request entire blocks to access it (DS cards use 512 byte blocks). Hard drives, optical media, SD cards, memory sticks are all serial block devices. Pros: capacity is not limited by connection pins, can use any storage tech without changing the connection interface, uses less pins. Cons: slower, data needs to be stored in RAM before it can be used (like optical media).
MrBelmontvedere
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720p portable
believe!
believe!
webcivilian
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M3d10n said:
I think they are working on something faster.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/30/sandisk-sony-and-nikon-propose-500mb-per-second-memory-card-wi/
Commanche Raisin Toast
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M3d10n said:
sweet, thanks for the info man.
so i see we might have another facepalm when we find out what sony does with RAM. seems to be the case with each console they release. i will remain hopeful though.
webcivilian
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Commanche Raisin Toast said:
Probably around 512MB. 1GB would be really awesome.
charlequin
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Omiee said:
The "retailer share" on a new gaming console is $0.01.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Nintendo's profit per handheld sold has to be wayyy bigger than what Sony is gonna get. Seems that 3DS is going to be around ~$250, and for PSP2 to be competitive it's gonna need to be at the most $299, which I still feel is way too much.
The handheld world could be very weird next gen.
The handheld world could be very weird next gen.
charlequin
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Boney said:
Totally.
Manmademan
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Boney said:
yeah, this isn't a secret to anyone who's worked videogame retail. the money is all in the accessories and games. This is why retailers are fond of forcing you into "bundles" around anticipated launches.
edit: sole exception to this is the PSPgo, for obvious reasons.
Pureauthor
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After reading the Mod Edit in the OP, the only thing I have to say is, 'Why?'
Domcorleone
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if they introduce the idea of playing ps3 games on you psp2 and expand on the remote play, and have complete psn access and multiplayer access, then it will be a great success, many gamers would love to beat that "one part" before work or school, now we would be able to with this device potentially.
friskykillface
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:lol at some people thinking it would be $250, if it's gonna be so powerful it will be at least $350 :'( i can't afford two next gen handhelds.
the right analog stick over the buttons looks oddly placed. but still, finally two analog sticks
the right analog stick over the buttons looks oddly placed. but still, finally two analog sticks
Flying_Phoenix
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^^^It's an HD Wii game.
Sony is in no position to make yet another system that will bleed red.
LCfiner said:
Sony is in no position to make yet another system that will bleed red.
The Abominable Snowman
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The perception that the PS3 and PSP were huge failures is so pervasive. I think it's wrong.
Sony can still afford to sell the PSP2 at an initial loss. that said, I'd be extremely surprised if Sony couldn't deliver a product for $250 that wasn't a similar leap over competitors as the PSP was.
Sony can still afford to sell the PSP2 at an initial loss. that said, I'd be extremely surprised if Sony couldn't deliver a product for $250 that wasn't a similar leap over competitors as the PSP was.
Flying_Phoenix
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LCfiner said:
The ultra razor blade model has proved to be massive failure. It's dead. I can't really see where Sony can go with the PSP's successor.
I guess trying to expand a system to cover the whole media market (a PSP phone, a PSP media player, etc.) would be a nice move. But they'd get raped by Apple. They could try something new and revolutionary but Nintendo has adopted the glassesless 3D technology. It seems that the system is doomed for "mediocrity at best" no matter where it turns.
The Abominable Snowman said:
It's not a matter of if they could afford to do so or not, but more so if its worth the risk.
Selling the PS3 at a high loss caused them to bleed a near countless amount of red in their financial sector. Having the original PSP come with such ambitious hardware had Sony being super frugal about dropping the systems pricetag which could have really helped it out while it was still duking with the DS.
This model of extreme loss for an extreme gain in loss leader has never worked for any console but the Playstation 2 due to the fact that the system dominated from right when it stepped out of the gate.
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Commanche Raisin Toast
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The Abominable Snowman said:
looking back now and seeing that the PSP was $250 at launch... i thought that was SO MUCH MONEY back then. yes, it still is a lot of money, but now we have people tossing around $500 for phones and ipods EACH YEAR and they don't seem to mind. but as soon as a gaming/multimedia price gets close to those figures stop the press... no one will buy that!
there were $500 phones back then too, but not until the razer and then iphone crazes have we seen masses of people dropping that much money so often on things they keep replacing over and over. so if sony can market this thing right (they won't) they could somehow tap into that psyche of those types of customers.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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RiverBed said:
onken
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So in summary we've got:
-a beasty looking processor
-high-res front touchscreen
-rear touch panel
-internal flash storage (16gb?)
-dual analog sticks
-2 cameras
-microphone(s?)
-wi-fi
-slide design
-1 or more card slots
Yeeeeeeeeah this thing is gonna be pricey, $350 if I had to bet. I really wish them luck but I just can't see it ending up in the black overall.
Though as a hardcore nerd it sounds fantastic, the homebrew potential is insane.
-a beasty looking processor
-high-res front touchscreen
-rear touch panel
-internal flash storage (16gb?)
-dual analog sticks
-2 cameras
-microphone(s?)
-wi-fi
-slide design
-1 or more card slots
Yeeeeeeeeah this thing is gonna be pricey, $350 if I had to bet. I really wish them luck but I just can't see it ending up in the black overall.
Though as a hardcore nerd it sounds fantastic, the homebrew potential is insane.
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