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First pics of current PSP2 DevKit [Update: Large Update In OP]
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The pictures are either shitty because they're fake, or I think more likely, because they are cropped from a much larger image. If I was going to sneak pics, I might have the real thing I wanted to photograph barely in the frame and enlarge and crop the image later, pretend I was taking pics of something else. Who knows though, these leaks are often shitty for some reason.
Barkley's Justice
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Sipowicz said:
right, cause that worked so well for the psp1 as a slightly less powerful version of the ps2.
outunderthestars
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Barkley's Justice said:
once again, it sold 60 million plus units.
SonOfABeep
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That's true. Just because something is hugely successful on console does not mean people want it on their portable device.
People may just continue playing their HD versions of the game and not care about the portables.
People may just continue playing their HD versions of the game and not care about the portables.
H_Prestige
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Barkley's Justice said:
So what is it supposed to be?
It seems like people are just picking random characteristics about the psp and saying that is why it failed.
I think interoperability with console gaming should be a huge focus. I would buy the PSPhone if it's the same spec as a PSP2, and when you buy a PS3 game there is some portable additional thing that you can do on the go that plays back into the home game. Like a VMU or a PocketStation, I know neither of them set shit on fire, but I really believe that would have potential if done well.
Barkley's Justice
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psp2 should be everything we can not even imagine.
no one saw the wii coming. thats why it was amazing.
same with iphone. it was revolutionary. and the day apple announced the app store i posted on gaf and asked if "the big 3" should be worried and everyone fucking joked me out the thread!
so whatever yo. sony's either going to do something we haven't thought of (which would be amazing) or they're going to make sure their device does every single thing every other machine does (which would be predictable).
no one saw the wii coming. thats why it was amazing.
same with iphone. it was revolutionary. and the day apple announced the app store i posted on gaf and asked if "the big 3" should be worried and everyone fucking joked me out the thread!
so whatever yo. sony's either going to do something we haven't thought of (which would be amazing) or they're going to make sure their device does every single thing every other machine does (which would be predictable).
MikeE21286
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Galvanise_ said:
NOT FOR SALE?
But...
I'll BUY IT AT A HIGH PRICE!
BomberMouse
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Rear trackpad is a great idea but the lack of a touchscreen is worrying
Lagspike_exe
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careful said:
A portable version needs to integrate its playtime into the playtime of the home console version.
Some kind of integration NEEDS to be there, otherwise the game will fail to become a major success. For example, playing the portable version for 10 hours gives you 1 hour of double XP in the console version etc. If it's done properly and the portable version isn't just another poor portable shooter, it can achieve respectable sales figures.
H_Prestige
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Sipowicz said:
You can't answer the question? Ok.
SonOfABeep
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outunderthestars said:
There's a reason people never talk about software or regional breakdowns of those sales. :lol
The 360 and PS3, which are closer to 40 million worldwide each, sell 1000x (hyperbole, but you get the idea) the software monthly that the PSP does.
Units sold don't tell the whole story.
SonOfABeep said:
This is the dumbest shit I have heard on Gaf in quite some time, serious skill that takes. Might as well ask for Pokemon on PS3, GT5 on Wii and Halo on iPhone while you're at it. More money made by MS by putting Halo on every console, same for Pokemon and GT so why not?
Combichristoffersen
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StuBurns said:
Agreed. The original fat PS3 looks like a classy, expensive consumer electronics device. The PS3 slim looks like a cheap, fugly Chinese PS3 knockoff.
SonOfABeep said:
In terms of lifetime software sales, it's not insubstantial. It's less, and less per user than the DS, but still a pretty large amount in absolute terms.
I mean, if we were to talk about what you're proposing - how many DS games do you think Sony would have to sell to match profit on hardware + license fees + their own PSP games? Do you think they could sell that much? Not to mention iPhone, where value perception is so completely different, and the dollar amounts to be taken per unit is so much lower.
Besides, it looks like SCE's role as a platform holder will be leveraged to provide a USP beyond its own products next time around (i.e. for other Sony devices). In that context, if they execute on it well, it becomes more and more advantageous for Sony to continue to manage its own platform here.
H_Prestige
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Combichristoffersen said:
IMO, Sony was really stupid with trying to keep the original curved, george foreman grill motif of the original ps3. It looked fine with the original design, but with the redesign they should have started from scratch and made something more minimal and "boxy". I mean they even kept that protruded part on the left side that flipped up on the old models. There aren't any card readers anymore Sony.
davepoobond
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im guessing fake, and it was intentionally blurry so that you couldnt see more of the fakeness of it.
under what conditions would you have a camera output a picture like that with a psp on a plain white background. evidently they had enough time to suspend it in the air or place it on its back and get another shot of it.
i guess they could have been in a torture chamber
under what conditions would you have a camera output a picture like that with a psp on a plain white background. evidently they had enough time to suspend it in the air or place it on its back and get another shot of it.
i guess they could have been in a torture chamber
H_Prestige
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Sipowicz said:
This isn't about the existing psp.
What is wrong with the psp2's controls exactly? Four face buttons, d-pad, start/select, two analog sticks, and shoulder buttons. Wow, sounds a lot like an upcoming nintendo handheld but with an extra analog stick. I guess that one addition will ruin the controls?
Battery life? What is the psp2's battery life? What is the 3ds' battery life? Doesn't seem like there is anything to talk about here yet.
Loading? UMD is gone, flash is in. Loading will be fine.
And now we are back to form factor and how exactly a clamshell is better than slide out controls like the psp go or the multitude of smartphones with slide out qwerty keyboards.
Back to the PSP Body confirms the most recent rumors I heard. Rumor was the PSP2 kit is the same size as the PSP. If cooling is indeed an issue the larger body lets them spread some stuff out and work on heat dissipation.
This of course also means that the odds of a Go Style device are slim unless they can find a way to cure the heat issue.
This of course also means that the odds of a Go Style device are slim unless they can find a way to cure the heat issue.
The good thing with the horrid software sales of the psp is that sony can butcher the backward compatiblity and nobody would care :lol
Seriously if I can't play my UMD it'll take some pretty awesome exclusive games to make me upgrade....something better than anything I have on psp AND ds actually
opticalmace
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Fuck yeah.
Bought. (..probably)
Bought. (..probably)
Weren't there rumors of a PSP phone? I can see Sony making a standard system similar in design to the original PSP and a pricier one with phone capabilities, possibly running Android, in the style of the PSPgo. Still curious as to how the touch pad would work as well, everyone's accustomed to a touch screen interface at this point.
StuBurns said:
Why not ditch the mainline console altogether? Why not make a docking station sold seperately (and at a premium) that doubles as a sort of expansion pack, allowing you to play the portable games on your tv in higher resolutions and or visual complexity. Allow it to be be compatible with existing ps3 accessories like move and dual shock.
This could also save developers a shit ton of money in the long run if the target visually, is no more complex than what we've had with the ps3 (just scale exisiting engines). Just have a portable mode that drops a few details and resolution when undocked.
Bad idea?
ShockingAlberto
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Nothing about this actually excites me - it, like all systems without a "hook" needs to show me software first.
But it's a major system so like all major systems I am sure the games will be there and I'm sure I'll buy it.
But it's a major system so like all major systems I am sure the games will be there and I'm sure I'll buy it.
H_Prestige
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Johnny said:
Yes, there is an SE playstation phone running the latest Android. It has a small touchpad that simulates dual analog instead of real sticks.
IMO, that is the more interesting device.
Man, people here think the PSP sold poorly? How is 62 million a low number? :lol
It's higher than either the PS3 or 360, and higher than the GameCube and Xbox combined. It's 3/4 of what GBA did.
This was Sony's first entry into a field dominated by Nintendo. Chalk it up partly to piracy if you want, but to sell as much as they did is not unimpressive.
It's higher than either the PS3 or 360, and higher than the GameCube and Xbox combined. It's 3/4 of what GBA did.
This was Sony's first entry into a field dominated by Nintendo. Chalk it up partly to piracy if you want, but to sell as much as they did is not unimpressive.
I think it's less feasible for right now, but I like it conceptual just as much. I just want the two things to work together seamlessly. If I'm on a bus and have two minutes to play something, I want it to contribute and augment what I'm playing at home on the big TV.kinggroin said:
Why not ditch the mainline console altogether? Why not make a docking station sold seperately (and at a premium) that doubles as a sort of expansion pack, allowing you to play the portable games on your tv in higher resolutions and or visual complexity. Allow it to be be compatible with existing ps3 accessories like move and dual shock.
This could also save developers a shit ton of money in the long run if the target visually, is no more complex than what we've had with the ps3 (just scale exisiting engines). Just have a portable mode that drops a few details and resolution when undocked.
Bad idea?
This could also save developers a shit ton of money in the long run if the target visually, is no more complex than what we've had with the ps3 (just scale exisiting engines). Just have a portable mode that drops a few details and resolution when undocked.
Bad idea?
kinggroin said:
Probably because game design wise a handheld game is NOTHING like a console game?
Who would play something as big as FFXIII or GTAIV on their handheld?
Who would even have the time for that?
Seriously about the second analog stick I don't get the excitement over that, people will say that it's better to handle the camera and all that but I'd ask then if camera control has to find its way into handheld game design.
I mean it's already an annoyance to have to deal with controlling the camera on console, why should I be excited that something that's annoying is finding its way into the system?
That and it means that the last bastion of 2D games will die there, I guess I'll have plenty of time to catch up with the Gb/gbc/gba/ds/psp back catalog next gen :lol
â Narayan
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Kotaku?gofreak said:
I guess that means they're fake.
H_Prestige
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Mael said:
If handhelds are just going to get mini console games (which they do in large part), then there needs to be a second analog for camera controls.
KH BBS is a recent PSP game that people are going nuts over, yet can anyone say it controls as well as KH2? Does KH1 control as well as KH2?
Scuba Steve
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gofreak said:
I thought we're not supposed to link to Kotaku here?
Commanche Raisin Toast
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-they already said it's early prototype
-they said it's been changed since then, and the sliding form factor is no more
-thus, it will either be clamshell or one solid piece like current PSP
-as well as the d-pad being placeholder just for the sake of having a working model
-let's all go ahead and make our final decisions on PSP2 now, seeing as this is the final retail product and we've seen software and price
-shitting in your hand is also a great idea
-they said it's been changed since then, and the sliding form factor is no more
-thus, it will either be clamshell or one solid piece like current PSP
-as well as the d-pad being placeholder just for the sake of having a working model
-let's all go ahead and make our final decisions on PSP2 now, seeing as this is the final retail product and we've seen software and price
-shitting in your hand is also a great idea
To be clear, I was never suggesting making all games playable in both situations, I strongly believe portable games should be designed differently, I was just suggesting they work together, for example if I'm playing FFXIII, when I fire up the PSP2 I want to playing something that relates to what I'm doing in the game, but isn't the same. FFVIII is the only PocketStation game I ever played actually, so it's an apt comparison I guess. In that you trained some little creature, that you could then summon in battle, but it also got you items you could use in the full game.
Or another example, say there was a Pokemon style console game, and when you played it on the road you got a pokemon stadium style training thing to do. Things along those lines.
Or another example, say there was a Pokemon style console game, and when you played it on the road you got a pokemon stadium style training thing to do. Things along those lines.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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hatchx said:
i'm willing to bet it just has twice as much ROM as 360 has RAM. (1gb) :lol
ShockingAlberto said:
Exactly. Show me the games.
I'm hoping Sony will rescue some of their old (and not that old) franchises/games like they did with Syphon Filter/Wipeout/Medievil in the early years of the original psp.
F.e. I'd love new PaRappa, Omega Boost, Sly, Alundra, Dark Cloud or Wild Arms
A man can dream
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