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[theBishop]

TPS are awesome games on the PSP and would rock on a PSP2 with dual analog sticks/pads...

I had a blast playing Syphon Filter Dark Mirror online back in the day. Maps were cool and it had sick ass weapons....dual sawed off shotties anyone?

Syphon Filter/Socom or future FPS titles on PSP2 = day1.

I just hope the rumored PS3 Syphon Filter actually comes out. Maybe it makes sense for Sony Bend to be a handheld studio, and god knows I'd love a portable (rumored) Uncharted on PSP2. But Logan needs at least one outing in HD.

 

[Takao]

People can argue hardware all they want but the 800lb gorilla in the room is software. PSPGo failing hard is one thing since they had the PSP 3000 still (though I can totally understand the argument that the PSP3000 being around causing third parties to ignore DD is totally legit) but this is going totally balls out DD only.

I'm sure I would be all over this normally but I don't need a bunch of portables and with some key PSP titles not being up for download therefore not being able to be played on the PSP2 sours me. I don't want to have a PSP and PSP2 sitting around. Secondly being entirely at the mercy of "deal with it" Chen and the PSN store is, worrisome to say the least.

Why do you think it would be PSN-only? Hirai basically said it won't.

 

[Mr_Brit]

Why do you think it would be PSN-only?

He meant in terms of BC only as it'll 99.9% not use a UMD drive. It will most likely have some kind of physical storage system for games though.

 

[Sipowicz]

At the risk of sounding like the sycophant I am, Sony seems to understand the need for diversity and experimentation in their lineup. If anything PS3 is even more ambitious in that regard than PSP. As impressed as I was about Loco Roco, Patapon, etc, the stuff ThatGameCompany does on PS3 is whole new level of avant-garde weirdness.

Maybe their vanguard studios spend too much time making hollywood shooters, but that's kind of the nature of things. The most successful, big budget art/entertainment is rarely the most thought-provoking and original.

fair point. i did think flow was a cool little diversion. i honestly think it would be great see an increase in quality/quanity of psn games on the PSP2 to bring it in line with the PS3. i've said it before but the whole online thing was one of the PSP's biggest failures

i would also love for sucker punch and the warhawk people to form small internal teams to work on psp2 exclusives, whether they be high quality bespoke peacewalker style spinoffs or (preferably) new ips. guerilla games did it with killzoe liberations. i didn't like it but at least they tried

the main thing though is for sony to expand upon the excellent work done by japan studio, sony bend, ready at dawn, psygnosis et al did while supporting the third parties who did such excellent work on the original psp

 

[KAL2006]

So when do you folks think Sony will announce this. There is CES at Jan 6th, and GDC at Feb 28th.

I think Sony will go with CES, as they need to announce it before 3DS gets released. I think the 3DS is getting released at Feb 26th in Japan. If they announce it at CES at least the consumers will know about it and hold out for it instead of getting a 3DS. They can also announce more games in GDC.

 

[Vinterbird]

So when do you folks think Sony will announce this. There is CES at Jan 6th, and GDC at Feb 28th.

I think Sony will go with CES, as they need to announce it before 3DS gets released. I think the 3DS is getting released at Feb 26th in Japan. If they announce it at CES at least the consumers will know about it and hold out for it instead of getting a 3DS. They can also announce more games in GDC.

GDC at the earliest. No way they are gonna announce anything at CES.

 

[Laguna]

So when do you folks think Sony will announce this. There is CES at Jan 6th, and GDC at Feb 28th.

I think Sony will go with CES, as they need to announce it before 3DS gets released. I think the 3DS is getting released at Feb 26th in Japan. If they announce it at CES at least the consumers will know about it and hold out for it instead of getting a 3DS. They can also announce more games in GDC.

I doubt that besides Sony fans many people that intent to by a 3DS will hold out after PSP2 gets announced.

 

[sajj316]

COD on the go with two sticks and online integration on the system...


Wonder if that would do well

This would be the Monster Hunter of NA

 

[Massa]

I doubt that besides Sony fans many people that intent to by a 3DS will hold out after PSP2 gets announced.

It's not just about keeping people from buying a 3DS. If Sony announces a new handheld before the 3DS releases then it will be a part of the conversation when the 3DS releases, meaning blurbs in news coverage, reviews, etc.

It doesn't seem like Sony will use the same strategy they used against the Dreamcast and Xbox 360 though.

 

[plagiarize]

I doubt that besides Sony fans many people that intent to by a 3DS will hold out after PSP2 gets announced.

i'm sure a good number will actually hold out to see the two systems side by side, but a lot of the holdouts will still buy a 3DS.

hold outs aren't uncommon at all, and generally they don't have brand loyality. a Sony fan probably isn't interested in the 3DS right now anyway.

it isn't that important to prevent holdouts as the company launching first, it's important to sway them your way once the other platform is out. obviously as the company launching second, the more people you can get to wait, the better, as it gives you more people to compete for.

look at the PS2 for an example of holdouts falling down on the side of the system that launched first. same with the DS too. sales went up after the competition launched. doesn't always work that way naturally.

 

[plagiarize]

This would be the Monster Hunter of NA

i honestly don't think it would be. not yet.

NA doesn't have the (A/B/G/N) wireless network to make an online game perfectly suitable for a handheld. we'd really need 3G portables before something like COD MP would be an ideal portable game.

COD SP isn't an ideal portable game i don't think.

but COD MP on a portable you could use anywhere... *that* could be massive. but yeah, until the network exists for it, or until the portable has 3G capabilities at a very reasonable price, i don't see it exploding.

it's COD MP that exploded, not the SP.

 

[sajj316]

i honestly don't think it would be. not yet.

NA doesn't have the (A/B/G/N) wireless network to make an online game perfectly suitable for a handheld. we'd really need 3G portables before something like COD MP would be an ideal portable game.

COD SP isn't an ideal portable game i don't think.

but COD MP on a portable you could use anywhere... *that* could be massive. but yeah, until the network exists for it, or until the portable has 3G capabilities at a very reasonable price, i don't see it exploding.

it's COD MP that exploded, not the SP.

Agreed. Note that there are HotSpots everywhere (free) .. at least in the Northeast. If they can get COD working properly over 3G, great .. but I think it'll be spotty. 4G .. maybe. I would also play COD on the PSP2 alot more since my big screen has been taken over by my kids and cartoons!!!

 

[Laguna]

It's not just about keeping people from buying a 3DS. If Sony announces a new handheld before the 3DS releases then it will be a part of the conversation when the 3DS releases, meaning blurbs in news coverage, reviews, etc.

It doesn't seem like Sony will use the same strategy they used against the Dreamcast and Xbox 360 though.

Sonys position in the market is completely different now than in the Dreamcast days and before this gen started, so while I doubt they won´t try to use the same strategy "the Sony system is a billion times better so hold out" it wouldn´t work out anyway this time since they aren´t the indisputable market leader anymore and 3rd parties aren´t as Sony fixated as in the past. But if they somehow can pull off a great exclusive lineup for their PSP2 reveal it would be a different story but I sincerely doubt that.

 

[plagiarize]

Agreed. Note that there are HotSpots everywhere (free) .. at least in the Northeast. If they can get COD working properly over 3G, great .. but I think it'll be spotty. 4G .. maybe. I would also play COD on the PSP2 alot more since my big screen has been taken over by my kids and cartoons!!!

not where i live in the northeast at least. in cities, sure, everywhere else? not so much.

and you're doing it wrong! you buy your kids portable devices for their cartoons, and you use the TV

 

[H_Prestige]

Sonys position in the market is completely different now than in the Dreamcast days and before this gen started, so while I doubt they won´t try to use the same strategy "the Sony system is a billion times better so hold out" it wouldn´t work out anyway this time since they aren´t the indisputable market leader anymore and 3rd parties aren´t as Sony fixated as in the past. But if they somehow can pull off a great exclusive lineup for their PSP2 reveal it would be a different story but I sincerely doubt that.

How the psp2 does has virtually nothing to do with Sony's market leading status, but everything to do with how good a system it is and its game support.

Sony was the king of the gaming world 4 years ago, but it didn't stop people from buying 360's and Wii's in droves. That's because the ps3 at launch was an expensive joke.

 

[FoneBone]

GDC at the earliest. No way they are gonna announce anything at CES.

It's too late for CES at this point, but Sony is run by fucking idiots if they wait until GDC.

 

[plagiarize]

Sonys position in the market is completely different now than in the Dreamcast days and before this gen started, so while I doubt they won´t try to use the same strategy "the Sony system is a billion times better so hold out" it wouldn´t work out anyway this time since they aren´t the indisputable market leader anymore and 3rd parties aren´t as Sony fixated as in the past. But if they somehow can pull off a great exclusive lineup for their PSP2 reveal it would be a different story but I sincerely doubt that.

honestly though i think they've already started the same strategy.

it sounds like the PSP2 *is* fairly easily demonstratably more powerful than the 3DS, so why not point that out to get people to wait? the problem with the PS3 was that it wasn't obviously more powerful compared to the 360 at launch (and has struggled to demonstrate to most people outside of the hardcore it's actual greater power and advantages).

if they haven't got 3D and they haven't got an obviously more powerful system, they're done. but i believe that they have got an obviously more powerful system (in a sort of PS2 compared to Xbox sort of way).

what'll be really weird is if they're talking down the 3D on the handhelds while bigging it up on the home consoles.

i won't be surprised if the PSP2 is capable of 3D output to a 3DTV though, even if it's just in there as a bulletpoint (like how 1080p on PS3 and 360 is really just a bulletpoint that stopped being important once the 360 could also do it). that way they could keep the message of '3D needs a big screen, so that's the only way the PSP2 can do it' without undermining their big push into 3D on blu-ray and PS3 (and presumably PS4).

 

[Vinterbird]

It's too late for CES at this point, but Sony is run by fucking idiots if they wait until GDC.

Personally I don't see the reason why to Sony could not keep this under the lid until E3. Announce the system, launch line-up, august launch date and price. Keep everything at one event instead of doing a drip of info like Nintendo has.

 

[badcrumble]

Personally I don't see the reason why to Sony could not keep this under the lid until E3. Announce the system, launch line-up, august launch date and price. Keep everything at one event instead of doing a drip of info like Nintendo has.

Because once E3 hits the 3DS will already have been out for several months, and it's not like E3 won't also have a ton of new 3DS games being announced that could quite possibly overshadow the PSP2's launch titles.

 

[Ninja Kn1ght]

PSP2 really should have 3G. If it intends to push digital distribution like the Go, then it's basically necessary. Ideally, I would love to see it have free 3G, Kindle-style, but the amount of bandwidth it's likely to be consuming rules that out.

 

[Laguna]

How the psp2 does has virtually nothing to do with Sony's market leading status, but everything to do with how good a system it is and its game support.

Sony was the king of the gaming world 4 years ago, but it didn't stop people from buying 360's and Wii's in droves. That's because the ps3 at launch was an expensive joke.

Yes, it does. And it matters a lot. as shown with NDSs atrocious 3rd party support in its first 2 years because the PSP got the support from the get go instead of NDS. This is a big advantage they had with the PS2 over Dreamcast and all it´s competitors and to an extant also PSP over DS and don´t have this time around.

 

[badcrumble]

PSP2 really should have 3G. If it intends to push digital distribution like the Go, then it's basically necessary. Ideally, I would love to see it have free 3G, Kindle-style, but the amount of bandwidth it's likely to be consuming rules that out.

Putting a 3G antenna into every single console and forcing people who don't want to pay for a monthly subscription to subsidize its cost is a recipe for disaster. Why do you think Apple has both an iPhone and an iPod Touch?

 

[plagiarize]

Personally I don't see the reason why to Sony could not keep this under the lid until E3. Announce the system, launch line-up, august launch date and price. Keep everything at one event instead of doing a drip of info like Nintendo has.

if you're only going to be six months or so after your competitor, i don't see the logic in not announcing your system before the other launches. you want to keep as many consumers in play as possible and the more people you convince to wait the more people you keep in play.

right now, many people out there might know that sony are making a new PSP2, but they don't have a reason to wait for one yet. Sony can give them that with some great looking games (which it sounds like the system is capable of) and hints at a competitive price.

so many people thought the PS3 would be competitively priced compared to the 360, but i can't help but suspect that they won't get the benefit of the doubt this time as far as pricing.

 

[gofreak]

Because once E3 hits the 3DS will already have been out for several months

3 months...

and it's not like E3 won't also have a ton of new 3DS games being announced that could quite possibly overshadow the PSP2's launch titles.

Whether Sony announces in Jan/Feb or at E3, it's likely the same PSP2 games would be at E3 in either case.

That said, I hope they don't wait til E3 - I'd like an announcement in the first 3 months of the year, whether it be at a industry event or a dedicated one - but we'll see.

I think GDC could be perfect timing. Yes, it's two days after the Japanese 3DS launch, but only barely so and it's before the US/Euro launches. I think it would be about perfect timing for drumming up a lot of competing coverage around the 3DS launches, assuming they wanted to do that.

 

[sajj316]

3 months...



Whether Sony announces in Jan/Feb or at E3, it's likely the same PSP2 games would be at E3 in either case.

That said, I hope they don't wait til E3 - I'd like an announcement in the first 3 months of the year, whether it be at a industry event or a dedicated one - but we'll see.

I think GDC could be perfect timing. Yes, it's two days after the Japanese 3DS launch, but only barely so and it's before the US/Euro launches. I think it would be about perfect timing for drumming up a lot of competing coverage around the 3DS launches, assuming they wanted to do that.

This will be key. They need to party poop on the 3DS parade.

 

[Laguna]

This will be key. They need to party poop on the 3DS parade.

Does anyone remember PS3s launch in France?

 

[FoneBone]

I think GDC could be perfect timing. Yes, it's two days after the Japanese 3DS launch, but only barely so and it's before the US/Euro launches. I think it would be about perfect timing for drumming up a lot of competing coverage around the 3DS launches, assuming they wanted to do that.

It's after the launch in the PSP2's safest territory, and after the hype machine is in full bore everywhere else. "Perfect?" You're nuts.

As plagiarize says, the only remotely sensible strategy involves taking as much wind from the 3DS' sails before it's launching.

 

[Vinterbird]

Because once E3 hits the 3DS will already have been out for several months, and it's not like E3 won't also have a ton of new 3DS games being announced that could quite possibly overshadow the PSP2's launch titles.

Using the 3DS logic will mean that Sony has lost no matter when they announce it. Everyone is raving about the 3DS, and Sony is facing the largest uphill battle they could possibly be at.

 

[get2sammyb]

Seeing as they formally announced PlayStation Move at GDC (yes, I know technically it wasn't the first time we'd seen it), I'd put money on it being at there.

It just seems a bit weird because GDC is supposed to be for developers and it's suddenly become an avenue for announcements.

Either way I'm really excited. I'm presumably one of the few who realises a product can be extremely successful without being a leading brand. Even then, I don't really understand why people think a system yet to be announced has zero chance of being successful but whatever...

 

[gofreak]

It's after the launch in the PSP2's safest territory, and after the hype machine is in full bore everywhere else. "Perfect?" You're nuts.

Well, from the calendar of existing industry events, it's perhaps the best or second best choice at least.

They could do CES, but if we're talking about media attention and coverage, the burst they'll get from that first announcement will have peter-ed out by March. GDC is next on the calendar, and is right around 3DS launch. It'd give them a big burst of coverage then and would be fresh in the mind of people covering the western 3DS launches in the following week or two.

But like I said, that's ASSUMING the drumming up of competing coverage around the 3DS launch is the main concern. If not, maybe a special event just for PSP2 some time prior might suit better.

 

[sajj316]

Does anyone remember PS3s launch in France?

Yes. It was brilliant! It made a lot of press, well at least gaming press.

Something like this ...

 

[badcrumble]

Using the 3DS logic will mean that Sony has lost no matter when they announce it. Everyone is raving about the 3DS, and Sony is facing the largest uphill battle they could possibly be at.

That Sony should consider the 3DS's release schedule when deciding when to announce the PSP2 isn't really a controversial proposition.

 

[plagiarize]

Using the 3DS logic will mean that Sony has lost no matter when they announce it. Everyone is raving about the 3DS, and Sony is facing the largest uphill battle they could possibly be at.

i think they have less of a battle than they had when first launching the PSP. yeah, prior to the launch of the DS and PSP they had all the hype, but they were entering into the handheld space that Nintendo had absolutely dominated with the GBA. everyone else that had ever gone in against nintendo had been killed.

sure, the DS has greatly outstripped the PSP in terms of sales, but the fact that a PSP2 exists shows you how well they did, and the fact that they're competitive in even one large market also shows you the large strides they took.

they're in a similar position to Microsoft after the 360. they got their foot in the door and have something to potentially build into a greater success.

i'm always optimistic around system launches and never want to see one fail. i'd love for the PSP2 to be a killer device that offers tangible benefits over the 3DS. i really hope i own both handhelds by the end of next year

 

[Spiegel]

That Sony should consider the 3DS's release schedule when deciding when to announce the PSP2 isn't really a controversial proposition.

Yeah, wouldn't this be the first time when a console has launched with no competitor announced?

And by announced I mean not Sony saying: "well, of course we are working on the next generation handheld".

 

[Laguna]

i think they have less of a battle than they had when first launching the PSP. yeah, prior to the launch of the DS and PSP they had all the hype, but they were entering into the handheld space that Nintendo had absolutely dominated with the GBA. everyone else that had ever gone in against nintendo had been killed.

sure, the DS has greatly outstripped the PSP in terms of sales, but the fact that a PSP2 exists shows you how well they did, and the fact that they're competitive in even one large market also shows you the large strides they took.

they're in a similar position to Microsoft after the 360. they got their foot in the door and have something to potentially build into a greater success.

i'm always optimistic around system launches and never want to see one fail. i'd love for the PSP2 to be a killer device that offers tangible benefits over the 3DS. i really hope i own both handhelds by the end of next year

It´s clear what you´re saying but keep in mind that a Nintendo handheld got abandoned by all 3rd parties the moment Sony stepped in and only Nintendos success changed the situation after 2-3 years. That´s the reason why PSP sold great in the beginning and when most of its sales come from with Japan beeing the exception but we all know that´s more due to Capcom than Sony. This time Sony actually has to put more effort to get 3rd parties support than last time and their competitor actually is getting support from the get go.

 

[Bizzyb]

i think they have less of a battle than they had when first launching the PSP. yeah, prior to the launch of the DS and PSP they had all the hype, but they were entering into the handheld space that Nintendo had absolutely dominated with the GBA. everyone else that had ever gone in against nintendo had been killed.

I'm sure it will be this

http://media.psp.ign.com/articles/598/598595/vids_1.html

all over again. Sony usually knows how to do hype when it comes to their system launches. Even with coming off the abysmal performance of the PSP in the west, PSP2 will still garner plenty of hype.

 

[jonnybryce]

Sony should definitely announce this thing sooner than later even if they don't want to give all the details away. They would be extremely stupid to not confirm something is happening with the PSP before everyone jumps to the 3DS...but this is Sony we're talking about so maybe they will wait until E3.

 

[H_Prestige]

I want to see this at CES, even if it is only a tease.

Do it Sony.

 

[Xater]

Sony should definitely announce this thing sooner than later even if they don't want to give all the details away. They would be extremely stupid to not confirm something is happening with the PSP before everyone jumps to the 3DS...but this is Sony we're talking about so maybe they will wait until E3.

What they should do is the same thing Nintendo did. Announce the thing, show the possible capabilities and what's in the pipeline for it. The later on, possibly E3, give all the details like price and exact launch date.

 

[Father_Brain]

i think they have less of a battle than they had when first launching the PSP. yeah, prior to the launch of the DS and PSP they had all the hype, but they were entering into the handheld space that Nintendo had absolutely dominated with the GBA. everyone else that had ever gone in against nintendo had been killed.

sure, the DS has greatly outstripped the PSP in terms of sales, but the fact that a PSP2 exists shows you how well they did, and the fact that they're competitive in even one large market also shows you the large strides they took.

they're in a similar position to Microsoft after the 360. they got their foot in the door and have something to potentially build into a greater success.

i'm always optimistic around system launches and never want to see one fail. i'd love for the PSP2 to be a killer device that offers tangible benefits over the 3DS. i really hope i own both handhelds by the end of next year

The alternate perspective would be that Sony actually faces more of an uphill battle with PSP2, since Nintendo is now actively targeting their "console on a handheld" niche, and will have a key, attention-getting technical advantage (3D) that PSP2 is unlikely to have.

I do think that Nintendo's more core-oriented, touch-screen-deemphasizing approach runs the risk of diminishing 3DS' appeal to the casual crowd that's responsible for so much of DS' success. It remains to be seen whether Sony can win those demographics over, though.

 

[Xiaoki]

The alternate perspective would be that Sony actually faces more of an uphill battle with PSP2, since Nintendo is now actively targeting their "console on a handheld" niche, and will have a key, attention-getting technical advantage (3D) that PSP2 is unlikely to have.

and giving up the "it's so cheap and accessible even your Aunt Betty has a DS" niche.

Also, one of the biggest complaints from the gaming community is that the PSP was a "portable console" and that the games werent "portable friendly".
So, the PSP2 is in trouble because the 3DS is adopting one of the PSPs most criticized aspects?

 

[badcrumble]

Also, one of the biggest complaints from the gaming community is that the PSP was a "portable console" and that the games werent "portable friendly".
So, the PSP2 is in trouble because the 3DS is adopting one of the PSPs most criticized aspects?

This is actually something that both the DS and PSP have done a great job at dealing with in many cases (or, rather, that developers have done a great job at dealing with). First of all, they both have the freeze state; secondly, many, many "hardcore" games have been intelligently set up to have lots of bite-sized missions and stuff so that the game is very easily broken into small but satisfying little chunks (this can be seen in a lot of the RPG-type games on both consoles). If the PSP's games weren't "portable friendly," it's mainly because the PSP was too damn large, not because the material wasn't easy to pick up and put down (because both the PSP and the DS have surpassed the GBA in that regard).

edit: also, battery life

 

[sajj316]

and giving up the "it's so cheap and accessible even your Aunt Betty has a DS" niche.

Also, one of the biggest complaints from the gaming community is that the PSP was a "portable console" and that the games werent "portable friendly".
So, the PSP2 is in trouble because the 3DS is adopting one of the PSPs most criticized aspects?

Note that the price of the Wii, as marked up as it was, did not stop potential buyers in the casual space. As far as I know, touch is not removed from 3DS. Therefore, it still has a very 'casual' feature. 3D will be a welcomed feature for video enthusiasts such as myself but I know the graphics will not wow me in comparison to the PSP2.

I for one bought a PSP because it was Playstation on the go. Hardware was well ahead of its time and I see PSP2 doing the same thing. I'm not sure that's a good thing. However, I'm hoping Sony proves me wrong with giving the PSP2 so many features that I shouldn't hesitate on spending $300+ on it.

WiFi+3G/4G
Remote Play of PS3 titles
Media capabilities (Youtube, Netflix, Hulu, etc ..)
PSOne + PS2 titles
BC of PSP titles

Just to name a few ..

 

[FoneBone]

and giving up the "it's so cheap and accessible even your Aunt Betty has a DS" niche.

Also, one of the biggest complaints from the gaming community is that the PSP was a "portable console" and that the games werent "portable friendly".
So, the PSP2 is in trouble because the 3DS is adopting one of the PSPs most criticized aspects?

These are in fact potential disadvantages for the 3DS' performance relative to its predecessor, yes. They are not in any way advantages for PSP2.

 

[sajj316]

This is actually something that both the DS and PSP have done a great job at dealing with in many cases (or, rather, that developers have done a great job at dealing with). First of all, they both have the freeze state; secondly, many, many "hardcore" games have been intelligently set up to have lots of bite-sized missions and stuff so that the game is very easily broken into small but satisfying little chunks (this can be seen in a lot of the RPG-type games on both consoles). If the PSP's games weren't "portable friendly," it's mainly because the PSP was too damn large, not because the material wasn't easy to pick up and put down (because both the PSP and the DS have surpassed the GBA in that regard).

edit: also, battery life

They do? Wasn't aware of that. I assume you mean via CFW and not out of the box.

This needs to be a standard feature. If a damn CFW plug-in can do it .. Sony/Nintendo should get this standard. This will make it "portable friendly".

EDIT: gotcha badcrumble

 

[badcrumble]

They do? Wasn't aware of that. I assume you mean via CFW and not out of the box.

I don't mean actual multiple save states; I mean shutting the DS to put it into sleep mode or quickly flipping the PSP's power switch to put it into sleep mode (as opposed to holding it, which turns the PSP off).

 

[Duane Cunningham]

:lol Wow, I wasn't familiar with that and had to Google it... that's brilliant.

 

[gofreak]

The alternate perspective would be that Sony actually faces more of an uphill battle with PSP2, since Nintendo is now actively targeting their "console on a handheld" niche, and will have a key, attention-getting technical advantage (3D) that PSP2 is unlikely to have.

While this is true, there's a fresh challenge there, I don't think we should minimise the disparity that existed between DS and PSP and the implications of that, in terms of how strong or weak Sony's position was with PSP vs DS. DS had what turned out to be a massively important unique feature vs PSP that opened it to a class of content that PSP was virtually locked out of. More than that, it opened up a popular new way of playing that PSP couldn't offer. DS had a huge advantage over PSP here (even if it wasn't initially evident during the hype-laden early days of PSP/DS).

I'm not sure the advantage of 3D presents a bigger problem than that in the longer run. I think in fact it may yet prove to be a much smaller issue.

The battle for the 'console on a handheld' niche is a more dangerous one for Sony now though, sure. But I'd wait to see PSP2's own advantages here, which may run deeper for this niche than the advantage of 3D.

 

[plagiarize]

Note that the price of the Wii, as marked up as it was, did not stop potential buyers in the casual space. As far as I know, touch is not removed from 3DS. Therefore, it still has a very 'casual' feature. 3D will be a welcomed feature for video enthusiasts such as myself but I know the graphics will not wow me in comparison to the PSP2.

obviously we have Nintendogs as an early title, but i do think that we'll see more casual titles as the price comes down on the 3DS. it still has a touch screen. it can still play all the same kind of games the DS did.

as far as whether the PSP had a harder time than the PSP2 is going to have, if you believe the stories, the DS was a stop gap emergency system brought to market entirely to try and 'spoil' the launch of the PSP while nintendo put together the true successor to the GBA.

if that's true, i think it says a lot of how important Nintendo felt it was to scuttle the PSP any way they could.

 

[sajj316]

obviously we have Nintendogs as an early title, but i do think that we'll see more casual titles as the price comes down on the 3DS. it still has a touch screen. it can still play all the same kind of games the DS did.

as far as whether the PSP had a harder time than the PSP2 is going to have, if you believe the stories, the DS was a stop gap emergency system brought to market entirely to try and 'spoil' the launch of the PSP while nintendo put together the true successor to the GBA.

if that's true, i think it says a lot of how important Nintendo felt it was to scuttle the PSP any way they could.

Could be why they introduced the 3DS out of the blue and touted 3D as one of the main features .. the year Sony was hell bent on promoting 3D televisions, glasses, etc.

Now, I'm not sure if 3DS is the true successor to the GBA but I could play SNES quality games on my GBA. If I could play Wii/Gamecube quality games on the 3DS .. maybe it is the true successor.

Return the favor Sony. Spoil Nintendo's moment during the Nintendo World conference in Tokyo. Unveil the darn system and get the world fapping over its possibilities.