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Its something that belonged in a goddamn parody of the movie, not the movie itself. A rex loose in the city should have been horrifying and tension-filled, instead its all played for laughs (even the guy who gets EATEN makes some funny screams). The worst part is if they had ended it right after they left the island, they had perfect good set up for a sequel with Ludlow bringing a bunch of dinos to the mainland.
Instead we got the misadventures of Grant and five other losers we don't care about.
It also has one of my favorite lines in the movie:
Ian to Ludlow: "Now you're John Hammond."
elrechazado
Banned
Will it have gymnastics-based dinosaur combat?
UnforgivenTwin
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"They cut you from the team?"
Only if they have a drop-out gymnast who is desperate for some kind of redeeming quality, like kicking an animal that probably weighs three times as much of a grown adult with enough force to fly through wooden shutters.
"The school you from the team?"
ZIPBANG!
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Shoulda cut that shit from the film.
It's always weird for me to read that people didn't like it. When I was a kid I LOVED that whole San Diego part! A t-rex stomping through the city? I was all over that shit.
Shit like that landed pretty well for me and my mom too. Same with the scream to yawn cut.
Razgriz-Specter
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As a kid Dr Grant was like my Indiana Jones,
By the time 3 rolled around having him back saved the movie for me.
I actually really loved the first part of the Raptor sequence, right up until before the gymnastics.
From that point on it was clear that it was a shittily rushed sequence. Sarah on the rooftop and rube goldberg-ing right into the scene where they run to the chopper was incredibly jarring. Like, the raptors are still RIGHT THERE. What the fuck?
From that point on it was clear that it was a shittily rushed sequence. Sarah on the rooftop and rube goldberg-ing right into the scene where they run to the chopper was incredibly jarring. Like, the raptors are still RIGHT THERE. What the fuck?
Jawmuncher
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I agree. Or if anything paced it better. The fact that it focuses on it so long is what makes it grueling. If she just jumped grabbed the pole and knocked off the raptor it wouldn't be so bad.
But having the build up, the raptor stopping to look and wait for it makes it so bad.
The best.
Such a fucking good transition. When I first saw this sequence, it was frightening, jarring, and hilarious all at once lol
The scream turning into a screeching train, The mom on the tropical island to Ian in front of a billboard, the camera panning over to reveal the station. So good.
He's one of the few good things about JP3.
Jawmuncher
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Yep always loved that transition.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
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Screw the Lost World haters.
brandonh83
Banned
I just can't stand the lady's comically animated scream. There's so much stuff like this in TLW, and none of it to be found in its predecessor. It's so tonally inconsistent with the first movie. The Malcolm yawn is hilarious, I actually don't have a problem with that, it's just the tone it strikes.
The only good thing about the subway scene is Eli Roth.
The only good thing about the subway scene is Eli Roth.
mugoldeneagle03
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Dr Grant had a dream involving a talking velociraptor. And fuck Tea Leoni. Get this JP3 > Lost World shit outta here.
brandonh83
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I'll take those things over the things I don't like about TLW. Yes the talking raptor is stupid, but it's over in about 2 seconds. Yes Leoni can be annoying but it was a realistic portrayal of that type of typical soccer mom American in such a situation. I'll take those things over the long and painful things in TLW. The talking raptor and Leoni combined isn't as bad as the gymnastics part, and that's just one part.
bengraven
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I love that the action doesn't really kick in until the 45 minute mark. I was worried they wouldn't take enough time to revel in the "perfect Jurassic Park" concept.
I rewatched LW a few weeks ago and I have to admit, there's a lot of genius in that. Mostly from Spielberg and his cinematographer. Some of those shots, like the one of the boat in the bay and the men with the wine bottles coming in from the right are just pure talent.
Personally think it's better now as an adult and that it's had time to mature.
I rewatched LW a few weeks ago and I have to admit, there's a lot of genius in that. Mostly from Spielberg and his cinematographer. Some of those shots, like the one of the boat in the bay and the men with the wine bottles coming in from the right are just pure talent.
Personally think it's better now as an adult and that it's had time to mature.
TLW has a badly executed story and is chock full of logic leaps/dumb hollywood schlock, but one thing I absolutely can't deny the film has is Spielberg's innate sense of creating artful scenes through cinematography and framing in particular. He also conveys a stark mood and tangible sense of place in TLW, and provides a unique set of beautifully shot sequences that remain memorable.
That said, TLW was kind of a disaster, even if I enjoyed said disaster
brandonh83
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I don't think anyone has a problem with TLW's directing. You can see the Spielberg all over it. The directing and music are superb.
Year before was Pacific Rim and I think the new Toho Gojira is next year!
Sad.... I hear hopeful things for the new movie, so we shall see...
Lol, this. Love it!
The thing about the parents is that I didn't think they felt real in ANY sense. Tea Leoni played a clueless frantic mother and Macy plays the sad sack father (like most of his roles), and that's not necessarily a bad thing; but none of their reactions, dialogue, or arc felt anywhere near natural. The mother's boyfriend died a horrific death in a paragliding accident and all she can do is act hysterical because dead bodies are icky and frightening. In fact, no one gives a shit about that guy ever, because he was a badly written story device to begin with. They are both incredibly sad excuse for parents, and it was impossible for me to empathize with them in any way.
I felt like I was watching a badly produced after-school special when it came to any scenes regarding the Kirby family, and there was just nothing that could convince me that I was watching even a mediocre film when it came to these sitcom-level chuckleheads. Their squabbling and banter had zero chemistry, and the general dialogue in both writing and delivery was downright painful across the board.
watch the first one
brandonh83
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I thought the dialogue and acting was mostly fine. I won't argue the other points, but even if I agreed with all of the above, I would still think it's better than the second one. I also don't think it's really fair to say that they weren't realistic considering that there are so many different people with so many different personalities.
Also, most things in stories are story devices. Kind of like Kelly! Ultimately we're comparing and criticizing two poor sequels, but I legitimately like things about the third one whereas I struggle to like anything about the second beyond Spielberg's directing and the soundtrack.
Of course they're both poor sequels, but that's not gonna stop the nerd war!
brandonh83
Banned
pew pew my favorite > your favorite, eat shit! I have backup:
Go ahead and find me some feathers/quills/thingies in The Suck World. Jurassic Park 3 is auto-better because of this!
ROUGE_BLOCK
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oh no, it slowly comes back to me. the dudebro photographer had raptor eggs in his camera bag, right? no, noooo, the memories are returning!
We must always remember, the terror of JPIII !
brandonh83
Banned
I dare some of you to go back and give JP3 another shot.
I don't get it. Apparently they've gotten to the point were they can just mix and match shit together and still no feathers?
Charles Foster Kane
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Certainly a prelude of things to come.
Ey man, I still watch it at least once every year, as I do all the JP films. Somehow I expect JP3 to be a different movie each time I go into it :U
I continually enjoy all the raptor scenes (which was honestly kind of sparse considering how they are the only thing that resembles a theme in the film; they show up at the abandoned research center, and then once more at the very end), but the rest of the film gets nothing but groans from me. It's certainly a film I love to hate though lol
brandonh83
Banned
The raptors in Jurassic Park 3 are evolved from the raptors created to be used in Jurassic Park over several years; they did not initially have feathers. In Jurassic World, Dr. Wu is basically in charge of how the dinosaurs look, and the writers lifted his viewpoint from the Crichton novel, which is that he feels that the dinosaurs of the park should match public perception.
Colin Trevorrow looked into this as Spielberg didn't want feathers and found that compromise. So it may not make everyone happy but at least Trevorrow made an attempt to relate it to the source material. Ultimately Spielberg is why the dinosaurs don't have feathers but Trevorrow insisted on at least relating it back to Wu's perspective in the novel story-wise.
I'm talking about Jurassic World aren't they using different dinosaurs?
The Lost World was on last weekend. I forgot how bad that movie was, having never seen it since 1997. It was just like kind of rehash of the first one but without all the interesting and likable characters. Ian Malcolm was fantastic in the first one playing off of other characters. He was dull by himself. Very boring movie.
brandonh83
Banned
Yes, I edited my post with more information for you
Excuses. I feel like they like the idea of dinosaurs more than dinosaurs themselves it's sad.
That's pretty much always been the case. They never let the realities of dinosaurs impede or overtake the need for a dramatic film; many of them had paleontologists as advisors, and the directors picked the parts they liked. It was about making them believable as animals more than accurate.
It's why films are often "based" on true stories instead of "an accurate portrayal" of a real event.
spookyfish
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Or, you know, some of us thought TLW was trash before having ever heard of GAF.
HeisenbergLannister
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As I've mentioned in the other topic, I've always felt... odd about it. I enjoy it still, but not as much as I wanted. I'm well aware of its flaws and cheesiness. And yes, sitting in theaters when it came out in 97, I was like "really, she used her gymnastics skills to kill a raptor??" I was pretty disappointed. Such an easy death for the creature (and oh, let's add spikey things at the bottom to completely kill it, like a level of Killer Instinct or Mortal Kombat!)
That raptor sequence fell apart so quickly, after what I considered to be a strong start -- The tall grass, and the initial run-in at the abandoned center. It was tense and intimidating, but the moment Sarah, Ian and Kelly end up in the same shed, it just turns into a inexplicably cartoony, half-assed disappointment.
I think the raptor was mesmerized by them gymnastics skills. No other reason it would've stuck around and watched her flip around for a bit. It should've just started leaping to attack or something.
Demoncarnotaur
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"None of the impressions count, none except for the bad one. That one counts. Flop confirmed."
I mean, I agree first impressions from premieres usually aren't anything to go off, but jesus. :lol
I mean, I agree first impressions from premieres usually aren't anything to go off, but jesus. :lol
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