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[Jangocube]

In other news, popularity and success continues to fail to correlate with quality.

Sad but oh so fucking true. Perry makes absolute garbage.

 

[iamshadowlark]

There's no such thing as racism anymore, certainly not against black people anyway.

Yeah, you are smoking the good stuff.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Whatever your opinion of his product, the guy works hard as hell. Good to see that go rewarded.

Plus, that money he is earning is being used to pay the livlihoods of hundreds of other black people (and their families) that help make his projects.

I can't hate on that.

 

[DominoKid]

Tyler Perry is the film equivalent of Master P....except he's about 10x worse.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

The point of the movie business is to sell movie tickets and blu rays, not make half their movies about minorities so ReturnoftheRAT thinks it's a fair game

I should have added to my post. I will watch these movies regardless of skin color of the actors involved. But at the same time, your post is the reason why Black actors won't get that role. If you never give people the opportunity to see those movies or any other with someone of color, nothing is going to change. You can easily fall back on that rhetoric and say that sales are good the way they are because that's all people are used to.

One failure with a Black lead, and it's oh, those don't sell. Back to White people for us in Hollywood.

 

[Dali]

I haven't seen "The Help". Whats wrong with it? Condescending?

My knee-jerk criticism having heard about it, listened to an NPR interview and seen the trailers, but without having actually seen it, was it's about black maids in the 50's or 60's but has to be told through the PoV of a white girl. Of course maybe my knee-jerk criticism is without base as, as I mentioned, I haven't seen the movie nor read the book.

 

[B!TCH]

I'm most surprised that Tiger Woods can fail so much yet still be so fucking successful financially.

Why do you guys care about Tyler Perry? I don't think anyone on NeoGAF qualifies as his target demographic anyway.

 

[kehs]

I'm most surprised that Tiger Woods can fail so much yet still be so fucking successful financially.

Why do you guys care about Tyler Perry? I don't think anyone on NeoGAF qualifies as his target demographic anyway.

I love his movies.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Tyler Perry is a genius.

He's figured out a way to entertain a long starved market and make them loyal to him alone for years to come.

 

[Koomaster]

My mom really really loves his movies. Some parts of them are pretty funny.

 

[Makoto]

I don't really get the criticism for Tyler Perry. I've seen the "Why Did I Get Married?" films, they don't really capitalize on stereotypes. I've seen a few episodes of House of Payne, nothing offensive or awful. So I'm guessing the negativity revolves around the roles where he's dressed in drag?

Edit: Looking at his Rotten Tomatoes page, okay, I suppose I know where the criticism originates.

 

[Trojita]

Nothing has really changed. Black actors still are not the first choice for marquee roles in Hollywood. Where's the version of Contagion, Dream House, What Lies Beneath, Drive, etc. with a Black lead or a Black family as the protagonist?

Did you see contagion? Because there wasn't one specific main protagonist in it. Laurence Fishburne was one of the main characters.

 

[JGS]

Tyler Perry is a genius.

He's figured out a way to entertain a long starved market and make them loyal to him alone for years to come.

He's the only one with funding. The lack of black films is a result of ones not being in the position Perry is in. The sad part is he is in a position to change that. To be fair, he may be branching out to producing more efforts.

 

[Trojita]

 

[Count Dookkake]

worse is when they call out trolling

Trolling or trolling-trolling?

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Did you see contagion? Because there wasn't one specific main protagonist in it. Laurence Fishburne was one of the main characters.

No I have not seen it yet. But Matt Damon was the main focus and the most relatable character in their marketing effort.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

He's the only one with funding. The lack of black films is a result of ones not being in the position Perry is in. The sad part is he is in a position to change that. To be fair, he may be branching out to producing more efforts.

True. Tyler Perry was born wealthy and successful.

 

[Cipherr]

Haven't seen "The Help" or "The Blind Side", but I reckon both share a similar criticism which is and don't quote me on this, but I think it has something to do with "black people only winning in life with a helping hand from a white person"

As a black guy I find this shit stupid. At least for the Blind Side. A movie I loved. It actually fucking happened didn't it? I distinctly remember a montage at the end showing the guy the story was based off of.

Jesus people need to take their heads out of their asses. Always looking for some shit to bitch about.

 

[chronos4590]

OMG. What episode is this and what season. Anyone?

 

[Stabby McSter]

OMG. What episode is this and what season. Anyone?

The Comedy Awards/Funny-Bot episode, I believe. It's pretty recent?

 

[captmcblack]

I wish Tyler Perry's success came from putting black people in diverse situations that just so happened to have black people (like blacks in college ala "A Different World", or quasi-successful black newlyweds in the city in "Martin", or a successful black family ala "The Cosby Show" or even "My Wife and Kids"), rather than stuff that he thinks all black people must like, like Jesus and church and "sassy blackness" and quasi-mammy characters in everything.

There needs to be a happy medium between Spike Lee and Tyler Perry.

 

[JGS]

True. Tyler Perry was born wealthy and successful.

Seriously? I wasn't talking about his background (I assume all blacks are broke at first), just where he's at now.

It would be nice if he could be some kind of Spielberg who helped a lot of films get made as a producer too. Spike Lee tried it (Thanks for Love & Basketball!), but he never was as successful as Perry

 

[Dali]

I wish Tyler Perry's success came from putting black people in diverse situations that just so happened to have black people (like blacks in college ala "A Different World", or quasi-successful black newlyweds in the city in "Martin", or a successful black family ala "The Cosby Show" or even "My Wife and Kids"), rather than stuff that he thinks all black people must like, like Jesus and church and "sassy blackness" and quasi-mammy characters in everything.

There needs to be a happy medium between Spike Lee and Tyler Perry.

Someone obviously hasn't seen Big Momma's House 3.

 

[akira28]

Dude is a black business beast. Took the chitlin circuit and turned it into a Hollywood-like money making apparatus. I hate his guts.

 

[Trojita]

Seriously? I wasn't talking about his background (I assume all blacks are broke at first), just where he's at now.

It would be nice if he could be some kind of Spielberg who helped a lot of films get made as a producer too. Spike Lee tried it (Thanks for Love & Basketball!), but he never was as successful as Perry

WUT

 

[Jburton]

Never heard of this guy until now ...... seems a blessing I have never seen any of his work.

 

[S-Wind]

Racism dead in Hollywood?

[Looks at treatment of Asians in Hollywood]

Nope.