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Flash designer for PS3 site screws up hard
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sugarhigh4242 said:
The Playstation site is also a huge site to work with. This is a simple Flash animation that shows an apple logo for a millisecond that most people cant even see (due to gamma settings). It's possible this just slipped through the cracks. Again, this could be some HUGE pending announcement but I honestly doubt it so dont get your hopes up.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
That's a colossal **** up if so. Don't companies proof their shit before going live?
DaCocoBrova said:
I think whoever designed this is using a monitor like mine - I couldn't see the logo till I edited the brightness. They probably thought there was no need to take out the logo if it couldn't be seen, but one of the first rules of graphics design ought to be not to necessarily trust what your monitor is showing you.
Oh, and I think it'll be down in 20 mins or less. They've gotta know about it by now.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Looking at that video, it looks like they used an apple product box to shoot the footage of smoke dispersion, and then forgot to mask it soon enough on a flash tween. How could a designer miss something so obvious is anyone's guess. When he was working with that video in flash, the logo looked glowing white, it's not like he could have missed it.
I've done a fair deal of compositing and flash work, and watching it again, it's pretty easy to see that the designer wanted to use that smoke effect in the background behind the PS3. He just slipped up a bit and didn't fade in the playstation machine all the way before fading in the smoke effect, causing the apple in the stock footage to appear ever so briefly. If this designer's monitor at work had low gamma settings like some of the folks here, he might not have seen it either.
It would be fun if it meant something, but I'm pretty sure the only thing being announced here is the imminent firing of that web designer.
edit: ...I guess I was kinda beaten by the two folks above me. Oh well.
It would be fun if it meant something, but I'm pretty sure the only thing being announced here is the imminent firing of that web designer.
edit: ...I guess I was kinda beaten by the two folks above me. Oh well.
This makes perfect sense!!
Have you ever met an Apple whore? THEY'LL BUY ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING Apple branded!
This must be how Sony is going to try and sell the 100Million this time around, they know how to take advantage of stupid Apple supporters by saying it's their new Ipod, they'll buy it up no matter what the cost even 2 or 3 just for the hell of it. If Jobs says he supports it then BAM, PS3 is an instant success no matter what the cost... just watch...
*Waits for the Gif of Jobs pounding Kuturagi in the ass*
Have you ever met an Apple whore? THEY'LL BUY ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING Apple branded!
This must be how Sony is going to try and sell the 100Million this time around, they know how to take advantage of stupid Apple supporters by saying it's their new Ipod, they'll buy it up no matter what the cost even 2 or 3 just for the hell of it. If Jobs says he supports it then BAM, PS3 is an instant success no matter what the cost... just watch...
*Waits for the Gif of Jobs pounding Kuturagi in the ass*
Smiles and Cries
Member
you people are reaching so far into a major **** up
Partnerships like this are made into huge events and PR Blitz not some damn fading peek-a-boo logo tease
Partnerships like this are made into huge events and PR Blitz not some damn fading peek-a-boo logo tease
Sure they do, but busy people, rushed schedules and something like this that's so subtle it's apparently gone without notice for almost two months on a public site that's got to be receiving tens of thousands of hits a day is a recipe for being overlooked during QA.DaCocoBrova said:
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
No, this site wasn't made in flash at all. Flash version went up just recently I think.kaching said:
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Deleted member 10571
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If that's a mistake/lazy flash designer then wow... just wow. It's too damn obvious, how anyone could miss that being there is beyond me, but Sony + Apple just seems way to ****ing wierd. Sony makes portable music players and computers (that run Windows) and tried/are trying to compete with I-Tunes with their online music thing, seems like wasted money somewhere to me.
Apple + Windows + IPod + Sony = WTF??1??1
Apple + Windows + IPod + Sony = WTF??1??1
http://web.mac.com/mouseh/streamvideo14.swf
You can see the smoke is identical, the apple logo is seen beause it shows through by accident.
So stop the conspiracy theories - mark my works, Apple and Sony are NOT working together (Sony won't work with anyone - look what they did to Nintendo!).
Blatantly Sony would work with Apple only to then rip off their work!
You can see the smoke is identical, the apple logo is seen beause it shows through by accident.
So stop the conspiracy theories - mark my works, Apple and Sony are NOT working together (Sony won't work with anyone - look what they did to Nintendo!).
Blatantly Sony would work with Apple only to then rip off their work!
http://mediapcs.engadget.com/2005/02/15/milunovich-sees-big-things-for-sony-apple-relationship/
Well Cell & Apple never did happen - Apple went to Intel for their latest series of Macs in a drastic turn. I'm sure Ando was there to get some info on the latest iPODs before readying their competitive products (about as competitive as a Japenese Xbox) last year.
Well Cell & Apple never did happen - Apple went to Intel for their latest series of Macs in a drastic turn. I'm sure Ando was there to get some info on the latest iPODs before readying their competitive products (about as competitive as a Japenese Xbox) last year.
meltpotato
Member
Dr_Cogent said:
If the explaination they gave is actually the case, that is (a) horrible practice as far as flash design is concerned and (b) possibly the worst QA of a flash file/web design i have ever seen.
Mr Mike said:
just wait for the ***** article...
Hah, I love how the inclination is that because this resource was used by their ad agency, the ad agency must also have Apple as a client.
Of course the Sony guy is going to say that, because it's the only possible way that this isn't completely illegal.
It's clear that the source of the smoke effect wasn't from some Apple Flash video, but from a VIDEO of a keynote. That means that it's far, far more likely that the designer just imported a portion of that movie file into his .FLA project and failed to mask the Apple logo (which is admittedly tough to do in Flash, since it doesn't have any features for manipulating imported video, only playing it).
Short story:
-Web designer working for Sony used the video that he obviously didn't have license to.
-The Apple logo got on the Flash page illegally.
-GAF and the Internet works way too quickly for either company to properly respond.
Now, to respond to the SDF on this:
This is a common occurance among Flash developers, a pool of talent that's literally home to the bottom rung of both software engineering and design talent.
Even at large companies, there is rarely anything approaching QA of source Flash files, etc. The only judgments made are of what comes up on the screen and how things react interactively. It's clear this thing isn't visible to most people at a glance.
To reiterate, anyone who's experienced the in-house environment of a few web design firms knows that there exist many so-called-professional shops with absolutely no idea about things like standard IT process or copyright law.
Of course the Sony guy is going to say that, because it's the only possible way that this isn't completely illegal.
It's clear that the source of the smoke effect wasn't from some Apple Flash video, but from a VIDEO of a keynote. That means that it's far, far more likely that the designer just imported a portion of that movie file into his .FLA project and failed to mask the Apple logo (which is admittedly tough to do in Flash, since it doesn't have any features for manipulating imported video, only playing it).
Short story:
-Web designer working for Sony used the video that he obviously didn't have license to.
-The Apple logo got on the Flash page illegally.
-GAF and the Internet works way too quickly for either company to properly respond.
Now, to respond to the SDF on this:
This is a common occurance among Flash developers, a pool of talent that's literally home to the bottom rung of both software engineering and design talent.
Even at large companies, there is rarely anything approaching QA of source Flash files, etc. The only judgments made are of what comes up on the screen and how things react interactively. It's clear this thing isn't visible to most people at a glance.
sugarhigh..aseoi3q0*&#$ said:
To reiterate, anyone who's experienced the in-house environment of a few web design firms knows that there exist many so-called-professional shops with absolutely no idea about things like standard IT process or copyright law.
Boards of Canada
Member
Stock footage. Designer didn't see logo. Blogs and forums go crazy.
worldrunover
Member
It's 1pm EST and it's still there. You'd think they'd have changed it by now? They have to know at this point.
meltpotato
Member
Juice said:
:lol now im part of the SDF?! which console and i not a fanboy of??
anyhow, im speaking from expereince at my company. The would NEVER get through out QA and it would be a cold day in hell when we hyjacked Apple content to build out our files.
meltpotato said:
Honestly, after working for a large, media-related design firm in the past. This isn't out of the ordinary. Especially if you have multiple clients who want something "similar". Reusing assets you've created for one client isn't uncommon.
The only people who saw this, apparently, were those with fairly brighter than average monitor settings. I as well as quite a few others, couldn't see shit. Faster machines, and testing on a local environment may also render the animation quicker, so that split second may not have been seen when testing. So I've seen weirder.
quailtamer
Member
I still think it's a bit odd that the Apple logo on that "box" is completely illuminated, like it's a new product or something. Apple doesn't show illuminated Apple logos on products that don't have working lights behind the logo.
And why does the Apple logo appear now and not when the site was first launched?
And why does the Apple logo appear now and not when the site was first launched?
meltpotato
Member
Jim said:Honestly, after working for a large, media-related design firm in the past. This isn't out of the ordinary. Especially if you have multiple clients who want something "similar". Reusing assets you've created for one client isn't uncommon.
The only people who saw this, apparently, were those with fairly brighter than average monitor settings. I as well as quite a few others, couldn't see shit. Faster machines, and testing on a local environment may also render the animation quicker, so that split second may not have been seen when testing. So I've seen weirder.
yeh you and Juice seem to have the same take on this. I'm coming from pretty much the same scenario you described and this is an unheard of foul-up so i guess its more of a case by case basis. so, my bad i guess