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A little part of me feels shitty saying this but I feel there more to the story than them just hitting him on purpose.

But ban them from football as what they did is dangerous, point blank period.
 
If I were the ref, I'd sue the shit outta whoever I can. After I won (or even I didn't win) I'd pay someone to do the same to them when they're walking out of a theater or something.
 
Parch said:
That was really blatant.
I bet this happens more often than people realize, just not so obviously. You get immature players with an opportunity to take a shot at a disliked ref and they'll take it.

In baseball there was a catcher that deliberately missed a pitch so that an ump would get beaned with a fastball. Spiteful players do stupid things.
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I think there was a story about a catcher intentionally letting balls go. He was ejected and banned from baseball I think. Idk, maybe I imagined the whole thing.

Looks like it was girls softball team that did it, and it seems that it was the coach that told the girls to do it. Didn't read what happened to him, but I assume he's no longer coaching.
 
That doesn't happen without coach approval.

I guarantee you the coach was behind it, or at least fed them the idea. Those kids should be prosecuted for assault and the coach needs to be suspended for at least a year.
 
Not as good as Schumacher, but still a decent hit. Dont expect to see referees get hit and its usually the last thing on their mind.
 
Plinko said:
That doesn't happen without coach approval.

I guarantee you the coach was behind it, or at least fed them the idea. Those kids should be prosecuted for assault and the coach needs to be suspended for at least a year.
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No suspension, fired immediately IMO
 
Those kids are getting expelled.

But its Texas, so that's only true if they aren't particularly good at football.
 
Wow that was pretty shocking. I thought maybe they'd just bump into the ref or something but that was savage and cowardly spearing him in the back
 
Ye I'm with the assault charge opinion. Could have easily broke the dude's back or neck by knocking him over from behind when he's totally not expecting it.

How violent and stupid do you have to be to do something like that.
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
A little part of me feels shitty saying this but I feel there more to the story than them just hitting him on purpose.

But ban them from football as what they did is dangerous, point blank period.
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Doesn't matter if there's more to it. There's no good reason to do that.
 
Texas - where football is more important than literally anything (including education). If they're good players, then they'll just be slapped on the wrist (at most) and allowed to continue playing. Can't have pesky referees get in the way of the dreams of talented football players!
 
That guy could've been put in the hospital for that. It's practically assault.

Ban from football, expel from the high school.
 
Should never play again and should be charged criminally. No place for that in the game. There should also be an investigation to see if this was ordered by the coaches or if other players were involved.
 
ryan299 said:
Growing up playing hockey, we'd always try to hit the ref with the puck if he was terrible. We never did, plus they're pretty good at dodging them. Still I've never seen anything like this.
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My buddy's dad got into a HUGE fight with a ref one time and it ended up with somebody getting cracked in the head with a stick.
 
Geo said:
Nope. They are in high school. Putting two people in prison for being an idiot once is not a good solution to the problem.

It's illogical to me when I see so many people complain about the horrors of the prison system and recidivism, and then see a thread full of "throw them in prison!" for a guy knocking someone over and another tackling him.

Going to prison once is a life altering consequence. Is giving them the consequence of potentially a lifetime as a criminal an effective solution to knocking someone over as a dumb high school student?

I don't think so. There should be consequences, but not prison.
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I thought I was the only one who felt this way, there is way too much of expel them and toss them in jail, so they can end up as criminals for life? completely screwed for a dumb thing they did as teenagers(and who knows if they were egged on by a coach or not)

Now they should be banned/suspend from football, then they need to be shown that this was wrong and that they can't do it again and that if done as it adults it will have very long term consequences. But expelling them and tossing them in jail will only put them further down whatever path people already think they are on.
 
Geo said:
Nope. They are in high school. Putting two people in prison for being an idiot once is not a good solution to the problem.

It's illogical to me when I see so many people complain about the horrors of the prison system and recidivism, and then see a thread full of "throw them in prison!" for a guy knocking someone over and another tackling him.

Going to prison once is a life altering consequence. Is giving them the consequence of potentially a lifetime as a criminal an effective solution to knocking someone over as a dumb high school student?

I don't think so. There should be consequences, but not prison.
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They conspired and intentionally tried to seriously injure another human over something likely very petty. They at minimum need serious help. Part of that process should be jail.

Nobody is saying throw them away from life, but some time should be on the table. There are varying degrees of possible misdemeanor charges that likely wouldn't result in their lives being over. And if they're minors, their records would likely be wiped out once they turned 18 or 21 anyway.
 
I'm not sure that jail is appropriate for teenagers that have been brainwashed into believing being good at football is more important than being a good person. But they should definitely be expelled from football and probably be sentenced to substantial community service and therapy of some sort.
 
Mathieran said:
I'm not sure that jail is appropriate for teenagers that have been brainwashed into believing being good at football is more important than being a good person. But they should definitely be expelled from football and probably be sentenced to substantial community service and therapy of some sort.
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What are you talking about? Nobody is condoning this and this is not part of the game. I was never told to be good at football at the expense of being a good person.
 
GoldenEye 007 said:
What are you talking about? Nobody is condoning this and this is not part of the game. I was never told to be good at football at the expense of being a good person.
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I'm not saying all football players are taught this but based on the behavior of these two players their coach is not doing a good job of teaching sportsmanship. We will see what happens to these two kids but I suspect they will not get into any real trouble, reinforcing their bad behavior.
 
From the article:
"The first thing we want is that those two kids never play football again."

-Wayne Elliott, Austin Football Officials Association secretary
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The referee is considering pressing charges. I'm okay with both of those actions, good lord.
 
Geo said:
Exactly.



I disagree, but I guess we have different opinions. Introducing more people into our broken system for stuff like this is not something I want to see. There needs to be other methods of handling situations instead of just "throw them in jail!". Which in other words is just "I don't want to deal with the problem, so let's just throw them in a cage for awhile". That is not a solution, and should always be taken as a last resort option.
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They have very very serious issues. This was not a heat of the moment type deal, this was planned out and executed by 2 players who conspired to deal bodily harm to another human being. From those hits, they were probably inches away from paralyzing or possibly murdering the ref.


Fuck them really.
 
Oh man. Just read another article of the same on the Fox website and chanced scrolling down to see the comments.

I just threw up in my mouth.
 
Mathieran said:
I'm not saying all football players are taught this but based on the behavior of these two players their coach is not doing a good job of teaching sportsmanship. We will see what happens to these two kids but I suspect they will not get into any real trouble, reinforcing their bad behavior.
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Well yeah I would be interested to see if the coaches had any involvement. But something like this is depraved and not common at all. The vast majority of players can keep it together even if faced with bad calls.

This is on a completely different level.
Geo said:
Exactly.

I disagree, but I guess we have different opinions. Introducing more people into our broken system for stuff like this is not something I want to see. There needs to be other methods of handling situations instead of just "throw them in jail!". Which in other words is just "I don't want to deal with the problem, so let's just throw them in a cage for awhile". That is not a solution, and should always be taken as a last resort option.
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Yeah, disagreement I guess. Even if this was an attack on another player I would be more ok with what you suggested. At least the other player, while still surprised, would in theory be better equipped to take a couple hits like that. On a defenseless, unpadded, ref? Done as a conspiracy and coordinated surprise attack? Yeah, jail and whatever other help that is needed for them.
 
That was very tough to watch, I hope they get punished accordingly and are able to be helped so they won't become worse as they become adults.
 
GoldenEye 007 said:
Well yeah I would be interested to see if the coaches had any involvement. But something like this is depraved and not common at all. The vast majority of players can keep it together even if faced with bad calls.

This is on a completely different level
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Yeah I agree. Sorry if what I said came across as inflammatory, I didn't mean it to.
 
From AP:

Before the referee was hit, two Jay players had been ejected on separate plays.

The incident occurred with approximately a minute left in Friday's game, according to Marble Falls coach Matt Green.

Marble Falls was trying to run out the clock and called for a handoff toward the left side of the line of scrimmage, according to the San Antonio Express-News.

The penalties stemming from the incident gave Marble Falls a first down. John Jay lost 15-9.

Marble Falls coach Matt Green said John Jay coach Gary Gutierrez apologized after the game.

The referee was "very upset" and "wanting to press charges," Austin Football Officials Association secretary Wayne Elliott told the AP.

Elliott said he was seeking guidance from the state officials association, adding, "the first thing we want is that those two kids never play football again."
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