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Forget about Nintendo, what about Microsoft going third party?

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I think it's only a matter of time.
 
Like a Steam Machine?

Can you stream your games to your TV with some kind of dongle? Does it play wow and starcraft?

I don't think steam focus on that. MS focus it already on pc, so why not use it on TV too, why using 2 different systems for it.
 
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Trying to act like a baller, I know thats sparkling grape!
 
God, how shit would it be if Microsoft left hardware with Sony having no viable competition. People shouldn't want this, at all.
 
Actually youre ignoring the fact that Microsoft heads wanted to sell off the Xbox division, because it's been nothing but a poor performer.

Others are saying they'd go PC only, but I don't see it that way. There's more money to be made selling their big ips on console.
"Nothing but a poor performer"? Seriously?
 
The Xbox division, to Microsoft as a whole, exists to push their services, hardware, and expand OS user base and exposure to things like Windows 10. Games are the tool to drive that

Take away the hardware, OS and services and I can assure you they have little interest in continuing to produce expensive AAA games when it's such small potatoes compared to their Office 365/W10/Azure pushes.

So no, I can't see them ever going third party because it just doesn't make sense for them.
 
They all are focusing on the mainstream gamers not on the core gamers. PC does, so why not bring it to your TV room? It still can look like an xbox, but just with way better games.

PC gamers want PCs, not consoles. They would not be interested.
Console gamers want consoles, not PCs. They would not be interested either. It doesn't matter what it looks like.

Console gamers play consoles because they are plug-and-play. They don't want to have to worry about drivers, OS upgrades, hardware upgrades, or anything beyond clicking on a game and then playing it. I know I sure don't want a PC connected to my TV. If I want a PC I'll use my PC. If I just want to relax and play a game I will turn on a console. Guess what? Almost all console gamers agree with this, which is why no "PC for your TV" product has ever been successful.
 
I don't agree, look at the switch, it's just how you bring it. MS has powerfull makteting and could make it unique. They all are focusing on the mainstream gamers not on the core gamers. PC does, so why not bring it to your TV room? It still can look like an xbox, but just with way better games.
What about the Switch?
 
God, how shit would it be if Microsoft left hardware with Sony having no viable competition. People shouldn't want this, at all.

Yup it sounds so cliche but competition breeds innovation. Why is Sony so successful this gen? Because for better part of last gen MS handed their ass to them month in and month out in NA. Could you folks believe that PS3 never had party chat? (foh with that text chat bullshit) or cross game invites? What was the point of having free online if it was shit compared to PSN?

That experience certainly humbled Sony and it's one of the reasons they're so successful this gen.
 
Microsoft doesn't want to make and sell games. They want microtransactions and a 30% cut from everybody else's sales. They're not going to go third party ever. They salivate when they look at Valve and Apple and want that and they've convinced Daddy Warchests to buy it for them.
 
The Xbox division, to Microsoft as a whole, exists to push their services, hardware, and expand OS user base and exposure to things like Windows 10. Games are the tool to drive that

Take away the hardware, OS and services and I can assure you they have little interest in continuing to produce expensive AAA games when it's such small potatoes compared to their Office 365/W10/Azure pushes.

So no, I can't see them ever going third party because it just doesn't make sense for them.

This. Plus their most valuable IP is basically the epitome of "multiplatform" already.
 
God, how shit would it be if Microsoft left hardware with Sony having no viable competition. People shouldn't want this, at all.

Nintendo could get big with switch, when MS brings a PCBOX it will run over sony.

Beside that, every console will have their thing, you don't have to compete.

-Switch: Nintendo games and also on the go
-ps4: Mainstream games.
-PCBOX: Massive online gaming, and you now World of Warcraft boasted 12 million global subscribers in 2012, Starcraft, quake, Thor... , it could hit allot of sales with it.


Why not, damn i miss a console like that
 
Trying to act like a baller, I know thats sparkling grape!

Haha. Not really. No baller. Actually I know that the wine I was drinking was Black River Red from Duplin winery here in North Carolina. It's a sweet wine, haven't had that wine in a while.

The Xbox division, to Microsoft as a whole, exists to push their services, hardware, and expand OS user base and exposure to things like Windows 10. Games are the tool to drive that

Take away the hardware, OS and services and I can assure you they have little interest in continuing to produce expensive AAA games when it's such small potatoes compared to their Office 365/W10/Azure pushes.

So no, I can't see them ever going third party because it just doesn't make sense for them.

This guy gets it.

I wonder how long until we get another "doom" thread for Microsoft. Scalebound really tipped the scales into Microsoft being bound to fail.
 
microsoft is already third party with minecraft, age of emires castle siege and some other games

but they will never give up on their own very profitable platform. they have a strong platform, why would they leave that behind?

Xbox is on Console, Pc and Mobile.
what would they have to gain from ditching their own console and go the Playstation beside leaving money on the table?
 
They wouldn't do it because they're not in it to sell games, it's all about growing Windows users, Live subscriptions, and revenue from Windows.

If Sony agreed to use Windows and Live then I think MS would drop their own console in a heart beat.
 
Yup it sounds so cliche but competition breeds innovation. Why is Sony so successful this gen? Because for better part of last gen MS handed their ass to them month in and month out in NA. Could you folks believe that PS3 never had party chat? (foh with that text chat bullshit) or cross game invites? What was the point of having free online if it was shit compared to PSN?

That experience certainly humbled Sony and it's one of the reasons they're so successful this gen.

Exactly, if Sony starts fucking us over we wouldn't have a viable alternative to turn to. Hell, that very thing happened at the start of this gen when Microsoft went crazy with those early Xbox One policies. People turned to Sony and the PS4.
 
That is not what I said at all? I am just reflecting on the future of their IPs if they somehow get out of the console business (in this case I gave Scorpio failing as a possible path leading to that).

Please it's so obvious that you're a Sony fan boy and that you want the PS4 to have every game in the universe.

Microsoft nor Nintendo are not bailing out of the Console market which is a good thing as competition is good for the consumer as it prevents company from getting arrogant and screwing the customers over.

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Can you stream your games to your TV with some kind of dongle? Does it play wow and starcraft?

I don't think steam focus on that. MS focus it already on pc, so why not use it on TV too, why using 2 different systems for it.

I swear some people on GAF just live in caves. There used to be much more aware posters here. Look below for your solution:

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Actually youre ignoring the fact that Microsoft heads wanted to sell off the Xbox division, because it's been nothing but a poor performer.

Others are saying they'd go PC only, but I don't see it that way. There's more money to be made selling their big ips on console.

My thoughts exactly.

I think Microsoft are more likely to sell off their properties than stay in the gaming business. Realistically, their gaming initiative on PC has been a failure, so I don't see a long-term path for their business on that end. Oddly enough, I think Valve would be one of the companies that would bid for a Microsoft IP.
 
Microsoft entering the industry was great, though like everyone said, they'd just retreat into a digital storefront. I doubt we'll ever see Halo on Playstation. They need a vision. That's the problem. They also need to take notes from Sony on how to build a first party repitoire and look to Nintendo on how to maintain those IP. I also feel like if the box we have now was what was launched in 2013, they'd be a lot better off. BC alone would have gotten many 360 owners on board with the Xbox One right away. They aren't going third party though. No way that happens. If it does then I'm going to PC exclusively. Can't stand the idea of Sony running the show alone. (Sorry Nintendo)
 
"Nothing but a poor performer"? Seriously?
On the whole, and for Microsoft, yes. In its best years, Xbox made around $1 billion in profit. For a regular company that's an amazing amount of money, but it's not that impressive for Microsoft. Especially when you consider that Xbox makes a lot less most of the time, and can lose substantial amounts of money in the really bad years. Overall, Xbox has barely made any money for Microsoft over its lifespan, if it's even broken even. When Microsoft was counting on it to be a linchpin to grander plans that kind of weak performance is acceptable, but they've given up on that now, so Xbox's position has become a lot more in doubt.
 
I swear some people on GAF just live in caves. There used to be much more aware posters here. Look below for your solution:

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Does it play:

-quake
-starcraft
-overwatch
-diablo3
-counterstrik
-thor?


It should be massive online focus for core gamers


I wouldn't compare it tosystem that can be count as "almost".


It's not that something like the switch already exist, that it is a bad idea:

You just need to bring it in a smart way and exclusive, with all the strong thing Xbox still have
 
I'd rather MS stay in the hardware race, they're well positioned to do big things in it. They have enormous infrastructure for software distribution, and computer hardware is in their corporate DNA.

Nintendo on the other hand, still operates like a toy company that also makes computing devices.

A toy company operates like a toy company?
Makes you think.
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Xbox has a hard future ahead of it, can't compete with Playstation or pc but there will always be fans that will keep the platform alive, selling let's say 50M isn't too bad at all.
 
MS already is 3rd party, in that they're the only console manufacturer that semi-regularly publishes on PC, they've allowed their IP on iOS/Android/3DS, and they allow MineCraft on everything.

Even MS Office is offered as a 3rd party.
 
MS already is 3rd party, in that they're the only console manufacturer that semi-regularly publishes on PC

This is only really true since Sony sold off SOE.
There were points last gen where Sony were putting more PC games out than PS3 games, and more than MS were.
 
Man the scale bound cancelation has really
Drove some people to egdge. If the original Xbox didn't discourage Microsoft from the console business nothing else ever will. Why do people want less competition if you don't like Xbox don't buy it buy the console and games you like but wanting them
To leave what does that do for anyone besides take away from the gamers that like their stuff. It always amazes me when I see threads like this cause if Nintendo or Microsoft are the ones always being asked to do this when ever they have a bad console cycle and Xbox one is not even doing bad it's just not as successful as PS4 as a gaming community we should be celebrating games and stop being so attached to specific companies that don't give us money let's just enjoy games.
 
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