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[Lognor]

This game looks rough AF. What is going on over at Square Enix? Their QC has gone out the window

Yep. First Babylon's Fall. And now this. I'm sure this will perform a bit better, but SE seems to be churning out some mediocre tripe lately.

 

[kruis]

Yep. First Babylon's Fall. And now this. I'm sure this will perform a bit better, but SE seems to be churning out some mediocre tripe lately.

You (and probably everyone else on the planet) forgot about this game. Coming out in two weeks.

 

[Lognor]

You (and probably everyone else on the planet) forgot about this game. Coming out in two weeks.

I actually did! LOL

Well it seems from the demo of that game, it will be decent at least

 

[OZ9000]

You're so right about those consultants. Boy I can't wait to play this game after the story was filtered through a bunch of ideologically possessed grifters - I bet they are going to do wonders for it. Who needs people with an understanding of writing and characterization when you can have DEI consultants who use words like Latinx and have pronouns in their bios to tell you how to be more culturally sensitive and not upset liberal/leftist sensibilities. It's like in Soviet Russia where everything had to go through the apparatchiks to make sure it was politically and ideologically pure enough. Gross.

The game will spectacularly fail.

'We wanted to create a female centric world'.

Stop shoe-horning feminist ideals in my video games.

 

[Lokaum D+]

My god Forspoken and Strange of Paradise, wtf is square doing ? If Square said that GotG was a "financial flop" just imagine those two games.

Chrono Cross "remaster" ll sell more then this 2 games combined.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Fingers crossed for a solid PC port. Feeling good about what we have seen, other than performance. Traversal especially looks real fun.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

The game will spectacularly fail.

'We wanted to create a female centric world'.

Stop shoe-horning feminist ideals in my video games.

Looks a mess.
Expectations are low.
I am more interested in its tech.

 

[Mister Wolf]

The game will spectacularly fail.

'We wanted to create a female centric world'.

Stop shoe-horning feminist ideals in my video games.

My only interest is the Direct Storage showcase. If the "female empowerment" comes at the detriment of the male characters or just outright portraying men as weak or incapable then I'm not touching the game.

 

[Elginer]

Please be good

 

[Amiga]

You (and probably everyone else on the planet) forgot about this game. Coming out in two weeks.

Pre-ordered . delayed ED and HFW for it. This game will sell millions. and will have high player satisfaction rate.

 

[Amiga]

My only interest is the Direct Storage showcase. If the "female empowerment" comes at the detriment of the male characters or just outright portraying men as weak or incapable then I'm not touching the game.

Any group has a right to their wish fulfilment fantasy. I'm interested in seeing things like this to understand how others think. only thing that turns me off is is bad implementation like gameplay/script/depth.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Any group has a right to their wish fulfilment fantasy. I'm interested in seeing things like this to understand how others think. only thing that turns me off is is bad implementation like gameplay/script/depth.

Agreed. That being said, just like with the movies doing this, when the male majority consumer base doesn't support the product there should be no crying or sense of entitlement from the seller. Funnily enough history shows that seems to never be the case.

 

[Camreezie]

You (and probably everyone else on the planet) forgot about this game. Coming out in two weeks.

Looks like hot garbage lmaoo

 

[KingGhidorah]

looks like its gonna be a massive flop......Flopwoken

Any group has a right to their wish fulfilment fantasy. I'm interested in seeing things like this to understand how others think. only thing that turns me off is is bad implementation like gameplay/script/depth.

More like.....any game developer should have the freedom/right to create game based on their own fantasy, it's their creation after all........unless the game is specially commissioned or financed by social justice advocacy group like what this game really is

 

[Little Chicken]

You (and probably everyone else on the planet) forgot about this game. Coming out in two weeks.

wow this looks terrible.

 

[Woopah]

looks like its gonna be a massive flop......Flopwoken



More like.....any game developer should have the freedom/right to create game based on their own fantasy, it's their creation after all........unless the game is specially commissioned or financed by social justice advocacy group like what this game really is

What's the issue with making games with a primarily female cast? Games with a primarily male cast get made all the time.

 

[SkylineRKR]

Stranger of Paradise looks awful but I liked the gameplay loop and challenge.

 

[OZ9000]

My only interest is the Direct Storage showcase. If the "female empowerment" comes at the detriment of the male characters or just outright portraying men as weak or incapable then I'm not touching the game.

That was straight from the dev's mouth.

Most media currently displays men as a weak species, as a way to empower females.

In the new LOTR, Elrond looks like a weedy idiot. In the original LOTR, he was a seasoned warrior.

 

[Y0ssarian]

Is this game purely a magic/shooter game or can you play it as a hack and slash. Because i watched the latest video and she was just running around shooting mobs

 

[Y0ssarian]

You (and probably everyone else on the planet) forgot about this game. Coming out in two weeks.

This game is very popular on /v/. There are daily threads about it. I respect Jack's strength, trust him implicitly and have preordered his game

 

[Northeastmonk]

Stranger of Paradise will probably be very good. It reminds me of how NiOh launched. Forspoken could be good, but what's there to really hook the player? It reminds me a little of Infamous, but I feel like I knew what I was buying with infamous. Forspoken has been a lot of great graphics, but the plot doesn't stand out if you ask me nor does the character really.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[StreetsofBeige]

More like.....any game developer should have the freedom/right to create game based on their own fantasy, it's their creation after all........unless the game is specially commissioned or financed by social justice advocacy group like what this game really is

Making video games must have among the oddest business strategies in the world.

The point of running a business is make some money, keep people employed, grow and at minimum survive.

You'd think since many studios only make a handful of games at a time (big companies), and often one game at a time (small companies), they'd put on their noodle some well defined strategies which is making some games people will like and sell.

Half the time, it seems they just come up with a dreamy idea, make a game out of it and pray it sells after the studio shows a preview of it for the first time 3 years into development and it's too late to turn back.

People hate FIFA and COD and AC rehashes but at least they know what gamers want and it sells every year like crazy.

There's more effort into product development and strategy at your typical soap and shampoo company that has 1000 items. Youd think if there's any company that can just wing it and not really care if 50 new items are good or bad it would be these companies as they already got 1000 existing products that already sell for 10 years.

Yet I bet there's more effort into determining whether it's viable to sell soap variation #43 than there is seeing if a $20 million budget video game idea is worth doing. And for many games, there's virtually no marketing too. It's like the company puts all their money into making it and just assumes it will sell itself. And amazingly, in modern age its not like you need to spend tons of money on tv ads, magazine ads etc... like the old days. Do some tweets, YT videos, banner ads etc... and it'll be way cheaper than the old days. Yet half the time, it's like they forgot marketing is a thing.

 

[OZ9000]

Making video games must have among the oddest business strategies in the world.

The point of running a business is make some money, keep people employed, grow and at minimum survive.

You'd think since many studios only make a handful of games at a time (big companies), and often one game at a time (small companies), they'd put on their noodle some well defined strategies which is making some games people will like and sell.

Half the time, it seems they just come up with a dreamy idea, make a game out of it and pray it sells after the studio shows a preview of it for the first time 3 years into development and it's too late to turn back.

People hate FIFA and COD and AC rehashes but at least they know what gamers want and it sells every year like crazy.

There's more effort into product development and strategy at your typical soap and shampoo company that has 1000 items. Youd think if there's any company that can just wing it and not really care if 50 new items are good or bad it would be these companies as they already got 1000 existing products that already sell for 10 years.

Yet I bet there's more effort into determining whether it's viable to sell soap variation #43 than there is seeing if a $20 million budget video game idea is worth doing. And for many games, there's virtually no marketing too. It's like the company puts all their money into making it and just assumes it will sell itself. And amazingly, in modern age its not like you need to spend tons of money on tv ads, magazine ads etc... like the old days. Do some tweets, YT videos, banner ads etc... and it'll be way cheaper than the old days. Yet half the time, it's like they forgot marketing is a thing.

I genuinely don't know how they sanctioned this game.

Dev: 'Let us create a strong black female lead, and let's make all the main supporting characters female. Resetera will love it therefore it will sell well'
Square Enix: 'PERFECT. HERE IS YOUR MONEY'

 

[Castef]

People hate FIFA and COD and AC

Wrong.

People LOVE Fifa, COD and AC.

People on several forums "hate" them.

That's quite different.

 

[Hobbygaming]

Is this game purely a magic/shooter game or can you play it as a hack and slash. Because i watched the latest video and she was just running around shooting mobs

There's melee too she can equip swords

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[Woopah]

I think he's criticizing it for being woke, not for the fact that it has a female lead.


Not really. I can recently only think of FFXV that had an primarily male cast.

Also, take a look at these

Protagonist: Female

www.mobygames.com

Steam Search

store.steampowered.com

Female protagonists are not something new too, which the media wants people to blindly believe.

Also this:

What makes it woke? What is the difference between a woke game with a female protagonist and a non-woke game with a female protagonist?

Also God of War and Ghost of Tsushima had a primarily male cast and there was nothing wrong with that.

 

[Boss Mog]

This game is gonna bomb so hard. It's crazy how a company like SE, with so many great Japanese and Western IPs, can churn out so many garbage games. SE should be richer than EA, Ubi or Activision, but they're not because their leadership is garbage.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[Woopah]

Devoid of creativity and intent, and is made without the developer actually caring about it because he has to design by checklist to appeal to investors and the media which made the woke demands.

It becomes even clearer when they shove it on your face and want you to pay attention to the protagonist's skin color, race and gender when in the past it was simply another detail in the character's visual identity that your subconcious acknowledged and moved on.

If you're geniously curious instead of just trying to sound virtuous, just search for "ESG", "BlackRock" and "Larry Fink".

What is virtuous about me asking you a question? I just wanted you to clarify your position.

You could definitely say that Forspoken lacks creativity in being another open world action RPG and having an Isekai story. Is that what you mean by "woke demand"? Would it be less woke as a tactical RPG because those are less popular and less appealing to investors?

That's why I asked that original question. I wanted to know what specific things you would change about the game itself (genre, setting, combat system, upgrade system etc.) to make it less woke.

I know about Blackrock and I've ready Larry Fink's 2022 letter. He touches on a variety of different ESG topics in it. Which part precisely are you referring to?

EDIT: Actually I've thought of a better way to frame my question. Let's say you had some developers/writers who were creating a game about a contemporary young black women. Not because of a checklist, not because of investors, but because they really wanted to make that sort of game and tell that sort of story. How would that video game be different to what Forspoken is?

 

[NickFire]

I am going to subjectively believe that every game that gets delayed out of the first 3 quarters of 2022 just needed more time (between the 1st quarter launches and the delayed games, so that everyone hopefully beats the earlier games and has time to start thinking about new games).