cash_longfellow
Gold Member
No it isn’t you fucking dumb dumb, it’s on PC as well. Do some fucking research before you say some illiterate shit just to wet your whistle.
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Aaron Olive
Member
Next Gen Immersion with PS3 lighting
the evidence is in folks....
the evidence is in folks....
I actually had higher expectations from critic scores for this.
I expected a high 70 low 80 after the demo. Good gameplay (ignoring certain aspects), bad dialogue, bland world, lots of poor design decisions, and really bad default settings. Thought SE might improve it over time like they did with FFXV.
Then review codes were being limited. Then the first hour leaked, writing was clearly tone deaf at best. Release is still a mess visually.
From a business perspective, this is questionable if it's even worth attempting to save. Might be better to quickly move on to the next project. FFXVI is going to take away most of the rebound potential from this anyway.
I kept seeing people try to defend the price as well, but there are also plenty of new games like FE:E, SF6, Sonic, etc releasing at the old 59.99 price point on the new consoles as well.
People also defending the development time and price in both directions. Such as it's only been in "full" development 3 years, so don't expect to much, but apparently it should be priced like a GOTY contender that has been in work for 6 years because that is "standard" price now.
I could see mediocre from 10 miles out plastered on this.
This was even worse, and I feel sorry for the communities that wanted actual decent representation out of this.
I expected a high 70 low 80 after the demo. Good gameplay (ignoring certain aspects), bad dialogue, bland world, lots of poor design decisions, and really bad default settings. Thought SE might improve it over time like they did with FFXV.
Then review codes were being limited. Then the first hour leaked, writing was clearly tone deaf at best. Release is still a mess visually.
From a business perspective, this is questionable if it's even worth attempting to save. Might be better to quickly move on to the next project. FFXVI is going to take away most of the rebound potential from this anyway.
I kept seeing people try to defend the price as well, but there are also plenty of new games like FE:E, SF6, Sonic, etc releasing at the old 59.99 price point on the new consoles as well.
People also defending the development time and price in both directions. Such as it's only been in "full" development 3 years, so don't expect to much, but apparently it should be priced like a GOTY contender that has been in work for 6 years because that is "standard" price now.
I could see mediocre from 10 miles out plastered on this.
This was even worse, and I feel sorry for the communities that wanted actual decent representation out of this.
Platinumstorm
Member
Pretty bummed out by this. How many bombs can Square Enix throw out in a row? Does Yoshida have to carry the weight of the entire company on his back?
Darkmakaimura
Member
Wow, this is MCU levels of bad dialogue here.
Celcius
°Temp. member
This is actually in the game? Ahahaha this is bad!
Which it isn’t.
Anchovie123
Member
How much did Sony pay for this dumpster fire to be console exclusive? 
Ulysses 31
Member
Maybe it was a package deal with FF16...How much did Sony pay for this dumpster fire to be console exclusive?
MayauMiao
Member
You can even tell the video is going to say bad about the game's graphics based on the thumbnail alone.
sachos
Member
I don't take that much issue with the writting, i think the way it is framed is actually what makes it awkward. The camera is just spinning there, kinda far away from the character that is just standing there, she even is speaking at some points with her face not showing towards the camera from a side profile, just looking randomly at stuff. It is just a weird way to do cinematics.
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SenjutsuSage
Banned
Neolombax
Member
The game looks fun to me, the spells seem to be interesting to play around with especially when you unlock everything. I dont even mind that the story is as generic as they go, but man I cannot stand the attitude and language of the main character. She sounds offended all the damn time.
supernova8
Banned
This is one of the few titles where pretty much everyone somehow knew it would be shit and get shit reviews... and.... wait for it...
Topher
Gold Member
Fake
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Topher
Gold Member
Demigod Mac
Member
And I thought dialogue couldn't possibly get any worse than the Willow TV show... I stand corrected.
Hoddi
Member
Shame. I'm not exactly surprised but I was still hoping the game itself would turn out okay. I never understood why people kept trying to fluff the game since it never looked that good to begin with.
I'll still try it once it comes on Plus but it never looked anything other than a 6 or 7.
I'll still try it once it comes on Plus but it never looked anything other than a 6 or 7.
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ChiefDada
Gold Member
Would that get your rocks off somehow seeing someone, who put years of work into a game, be crushed by it bombing? That's the exact kind of take that I'd expect from an S grade internet edgelord.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Thats the thing. The big companies with their big franchises and budgets moved the needle. Most studios cant keep up. Their best bet is probably doing a 180 and doing $20 indie games.
If this was decades ago, most games had a certain amount of gameplay time. Unless it was an RPG that takes a lot time to beat or sports game or racing game you replay over and over again, most of the other kinds of games (action games, many shooters were SP mode only, classic arcadey twitch games etc....) could be bucketed into straightforward games you beat in 7-10 hours. Resources could be funneled into this game so big studios and small ones could make good game a like.
Now, the games that are bought and played the most are giant open world games, F2P games with lots of content, or fully featured sports and shooters with tons of replay value and modes. Or giant budget SP Sony games. Love em or hate them, but most are AAA big budget games.
That middle ground A or AA kind of game seems to have disappeared. People either go big with the popular franchises or zoom down the ladder to indies. Maybe I'm wrong, but that tier of Darksiders, Just Cause, Forsaken dont seem to have a presence like the PS2 or 360 era.
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Topher
Gold Member
manfestival
Member
just watched someone streaming the game. The graphics and gameplay look so meh. I did not listen to the dialogue since the sound was off but this ... this is not it.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I, for one, am completely shocked that this game which looked like an absolute turd in every single piece of pre-release information, ends up being an absolute turd.
balls of snow
Member
Ehh Deathloop got great reviews and got shit on all through its life. Seems reviews dont matter either way when the internet has made its mind.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Only fools deals in
i was speaking for the demo. It looked pretty good. I will check the full version today.
But anyway, it’s not ride to hell retribution lol. Take it easy
Raven117
Member
Yes. YoshidaP and creative business 3 seem to be the only team over there capable of making awesome games.
JusticeForAll
Gold Member
In general I preorder every playstation "exclusive". This one I didn't. Somehow the game never really clicked with me from the very beginning. The demo and now the reviews confirm I was right.
remember_spinal
Banned
Played about 2 hours, im enjoying it so far.
Won’t try to put up any convincing argument for it or anything cause i know people ahve made up there mind but im glad i trusted my gut on this one.
Won’t try to put up any convincing argument for it or anything cause i know people ahve made up there mind but im glad i trusted my gut on this one.
vaibhavpisal
Member
This game has DELIVERRREEDD...
IAmAnAgnostic
Member
It is bizarre, as FFXV (same engine, PS4) if anything, had very good lighting specifically... And yes this extends to the full game and plays off beautifully to every open world area too. The time of day + weather system really enhances the feel of the game, and even effects what monsters will spawn, or what dungeons are open.
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Shits_McGiggles
Member
Yes, it had Hollywood "Literally-whos" working as the lead writers of the game. Seriously, one is an actor who has no writing experience outside of the cancelled Star Wars project by Visceral, and the other is someone who wrote a few episodes of a shitty YA novel adaptation and 1 episode of a shitty drama show.
This should be a perfect lesson to never, and I mean NEVER, recruit staff from Hollywood for writing.
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
This game is 80 EUR on Steam. It's absolutely absurd.
~44 EUR on key sites is still too much.
~44 EUR on key sites is still too much.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Only the insane repeat the same process and expect a different result. When you try to have dialog and they just throw out the race card without listening then you tell me how to communicate?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This is completely fucked up. What is wrong with you?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Sony should deffo buy square as it legit might help them put out some good games on current gen consoles.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Thebonehead
Banned
You really make the 70$ sound like it's my life savings lol.
It's just 1 game. I don't have kids lol. It doesn't matter
You actually bought it?
