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Forza Motorsport 5 Review Thread
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phosphor112
Banned
This isn't the thread for that.
And seriously, why not comment on the current lack of wheel support?
OlympicTechno
Neo Member
Oh sorry I forgot you said at launch...oh wait
Time constraints would surely mean the DLC would later arrive for free...
I don't need them to get into the nuances of the driving model or anything.
But what about the car customization? Photomode? Auction house? Livery editor? Multiplayer options? Car clubs?
There's plenty of things that make Forza what it is that don't have to do with the 'hardcore racing fan' perspective.
Release feature lacking games and make up for that with future charged Micro transactions. Eg a very low number of tracks, lower number of cars, no night/day transitions, no weather, a less considerable graphics and tech engine upgrade etc. Instead Day 1 micro-transactions and beyond, with cars that should have just been in the game.
8-9 scores I think are fair. But the 10's are strange to me. They cannot be reviews from people who have played many racing games, especially sim racers, otherwise they'd have higher standards and greater expectations. For example Sessler said the game has 'tonnes of cars and tracks', which is not really the case, not even compared to past Forza's. There was also no mention of night/day, weather etc at all, which is something many of us have otherwise become accustomed to in racing games these days.
cookie-monster
Member
for new page, thread is moving quickly
"Forza 5 is best seen as a foundation for what Forza 6 will be in a couple of years. By comparison, this launch-day sampler will seem awfully limited, far from the hoped-for lap of victory impossible on prior hardware. After all, it seems limited by comparison with Forza 4 now."
Nightengale
Member
I think the first question to ask is how many of the reviewers even use wheels to review the game.
Yes, I saw that. Commander.
Should we all be attacking Edge, EGM, and regular Eurogamer??
I mean, that's what happens in other threads when someone scores a game lower than the average/20 other sites/publications..lol
Portugeezer
Member
I am surprised by the high praise. Not by the quality, but because it is lacking content compared to previous games.
As has been pointed out in the official thread, there's pretty significant removal of detail on the Prague track since the E3 reveal. Kind of strange that they've made cutbacks since every other game has had upgrades, maybe something to do with the number of cars in the race?
Gamefreaks221
Member
Good reviews on a next gen game? No way. Looks like il pick this up Friday
In an ideal world yes but they could just have no DLC at all as well. I hate DLC and the whole model but it is your choice to buy it or not. Its not like tons of games this gen haven't gone down the same route so its a bit unfair to single out Forza, especially as the developers have said multiple times its lack of time.
Haha, no worries. I look forward to what they have in the works for the next game. Hopefully they'll be able to tackle some of those issues.
famousmortimer
Banned
I need this.
why do you care
Notice how they all start with E's...
phosphor112
Banned
Gamespot does for sure. IGN hasn't. Kotaku has mentions of wheels as well.
Still, advertising your game as a sim with no option to play it as a sim is just crazy.
Spacecowboy77
Member
Ok so when do we get Forza Horizon 2?
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"Forza 5 is best seen as a foundation for what Forza 6 will be in a couple of years."
yep, waiting for 6 is the smartest thing to do
Not when their complaints are genuine and being ignored elsewhere, no.
LiLSnorpSnorp
Member
Wow if you didn't look at the scores and went through the thread you'd think this game was pooped on. Can we all reserve judgement until we play it? And what's with car enthusiasts attacking those aren't?
It's a simulation, but at the end of the day, a lot of people who purchase this game play it with assists on, etc. As long as its fun, what's to not like? And for the guys ripping the token system, it was also present in FM4. I don't see why it's an issue now? And FM4 was 90+ metacritic.
Way too many people overanalyze negative aspects (and positive) of reviews while ignoring other aspects respectively. Game is going to be fun, and its made by a good developer. Do you all believe NFS is a better game? It may end up with a higher metacritic, I don't think so, but then again I don't care for scores unless they are generally on an extreme of good or bad
It's a simulation, but at the end of the day, a lot of people who purchase this game play it with assists on, etc. As long as its fun, what's to not like? And for the guys ripping the token system, it was also present in FM4. I don't see why it's an issue now? And FM4 was 90+ metacritic.
Way too many people overanalyze negative aspects (and positive) of reviews while ignoring other aspects respectively. Game is going to be fun, and its made by a good developer. Do you all believe NFS is a better game? It may end up with a higher metacritic, I don't think so, but then again I don't care for scores unless they are generally on an extreme of good or bad
Dalibor_San
Member
I'm sick and tired of this BS, no how about I vote by voicing concern like I and many others voiced our concerns about the XBOX ONE DRM when many told us wait and see and vote with your wallet.
Thank god I and many others didn't listen to people like you or we would of been stuck with Microsoft's vision.
That being said this game looks great and good on Turn10 for the great reviews, I however will be passing on it, I think I'm finally over Sim racers,however DLC+Micro-transactions just further put me off.
I hope Gran Turismo 7 or Forza 6 do away with this crap and maybe I'll give the games a go.
I thought it would perform better.
Feel free to offer an honest critique of their reviews.
Edge, EGM and Eurogamer are fine, it's not a Playstation platform exclusive game.
Terbinator
Member
I don't think any of the wheels are available yet, although i don't think playing it with a controller suddenly doesn't make it a sim.
Notice the "couple of years", I'm not waiting that long to play Forza.
I have no problem with their reviews.
Making fun of the people that fly off the handle when a reviewer's opinion hurts their feelings.
EchoedTruth
Banned
I just can't process how they give Killzone a 5 and this a 9... seen both, played both. Don't get it one bit.
Prince Vultan
Banned
$60 game with missing content from previous games and microtransactions still warrants 10/10 to some? Okay.
Surprised that even with that it seems to be on track to be the worst reviewed Forza to date if Metacritic is to be believed. Guess MS won't be touting dat "Best reviewed racing game" catchphrase this coming gen as much as they did last gen
Surprised that even with that it seems to be on track to be the worst reviewed Forza to date if Metacritic is to be believed. Guess MS won't be touting dat "Best reviewed racing game" catchphrase this coming gen as much as they did last gen
ok, I now feel like order has been a little restored in this universe.
I especially think eurogamer -which I quote- was right on the money
now, as people that play forza know, this forza will have the best physics, the best graphics and the best sound yet.
so, that is totally a 10.0 game right there. full marks!
BUT
t10 agreeing to participate -and with a big smile (I'm looking at you Dan Greenawalt)- in this milking scheme of the core fans, SHOULD be punished like it is punished.
and this eurogamer quotation that tries to sort the costs, seems to forget that other than the 50euro car pass, there are also coming 3x purchasable expansion packs, which are covered by an also upcoming "expansion pass".
(or at least thats what the windows phones smartglass app was showing yesterday)
now
I am sure I will enjoy my forza 5 exactly the same, not even one percent less now that forza 5 underscored,
but I sure hope that some people, hopefully those that agreed to this content and dlc schema, will now get to bite their tongues juuust a little bit because to them, loosing a 5-10 points on metacritic is something that is important and -iirc- a measure for their success by their owners.
also, marketing department, they will probably have to spin a different buzz word, as the "highest rated franchise of the forever" may now be more difficult to use.
ESPECIALLY if the payable forza 5 "expansion packs" get to be ...reviewed, and are slaughtered further in the metacritic ladders.
thats my opinion on forza 5.
i have one question though... has any review mentioned the pricing of the expansion packs, the expansion pass and the ..super pass?
I especially think eurogamer -which I quote- was right on the money
now, as people that play forza know, this forza will have the best physics, the best graphics and the best sound yet.
so, that is totally a 10.0 game right there. full marks!
BUT
t10 agreeing to participate -and with a big smile (I'm looking at you Dan Greenawalt)- in this milking scheme of the core fans, SHOULD be punished like it is punished.
and this eurogamer quotation that tries to sort the costs, seems to forget that other than the 50euro car pass, there are also coming 3x purchasable expansion packs, which are covered by an also upcoming "expansion pass".
(or at least thats what the windows phones smartglass app was showing yesterday)
now
I am sure I will enjoy my forza 5 exactly the same, not even one percent less now that forza 5 underscored,
but I sure hope that some people, hopefully those that agreed to this content and dlc schema, will now get to bite their tongues juuust a little bit because to them, loosing a 5-10 points on metacritic is something that is important and -iirc- a measure for their success by their owners.
also, marketing department, they will probably have to spin a different buzz word, as the "highest rated franchise of the forever" may now be more difficult to use.
ESPECIALLY if the payable forza 5 "expansion packs" get to be ...reviewed, and are slaughtered further in the metacritic ladders.
thats my opinion on forza 5.
i have one question though... has any review mentioned the pricing of the expansion packs, the expansion pass and the ..super pass?
cookie-monster
Member
It sounds like they are using the f2p credit transactions to artificially hide the games poor length due to the distinct lack of circuits. Grind or pay.
Nestersan
Neo Member
That being said, some pro drivers drive like arseholes too. Automotive racing history is littered with tales of "win at all costs" or "if I can't win then you can't either."
I would be annoyed if people turn sideways on the track or drive backwards, but I am not going to hold it against someone for driving extremely aggressively. It makes passing them perfectly that much sweeter.
i'm fine waiting for a game that will probably have all the DLC cars plus more, night/weather racing and more. plus the console will be cheaper and hopefully an option to buy without kinect too
I was kinda thinking about that, but it does have 3 times the cars and over twice the amount of tracks as GT: Prologue had.
I definitely still feel this is a taster for FM6 more than anything. A rush to get out a top franchise for launch and then a better working base for the next game in a couple years.
OlympicTechno
Neo Member
Killzone: A game that gives all its DLC to its players for free - 5/10
Forza 5: A game that charges $50 for content that should already be in the game - 9/10
Hey_Blinkin
Member
I appreciate Eurogamer including the microtransaction info in the review. While i understand it's not an issue to all, it's a real turn off for some people, myself included. I sometimes wish i was naive enough to believe that race payouts, or similar mechanics in other games, were in no way adjusted to attract people to the tokens in the store. As someone with 50+ games on my iphone, you'd think i'd be completely used to this by now. It just feels different after paying $60 for the game instead of buck or two.
I guess in the end it all comes down to how much you trust a company to be honest in balancing the game with customer experience in mind vs the amount of money that is able to be made.
I guess in the end it all comes down to how much you trust a company to be honest in balancing the game with customer experience in mind vs the amount of money that is able to be made.
Nothing wrong with that if you're willing to wait and have no use for Kinect.
Nightengale
Member
Can we not bring Killzone into this? Geis's opinions are his, however disagreeable they are.
Geis didn't give extra points to KZ for being generous with DLC ( not that he played MP ), just as he did not dock points from Forza for lack of cars/tracks. ( LOL at his tracks statement in the review )
He's consistent there. Let's give him that.
Geis didn't give extra points to KZ for being generous with DLC ( not that he played MP ), just as he did not dock points from Forza for lack of cars/tracks. ( LOL at his tracks statement in the review )
He's consistent there. Let's give him that.
phosphor112
Banned
Is the wheel out in Europe already? It's pre-order for next month in the US.
Good post, I totally agree, when I played it I thought it was like Forza 4 but prettier, which is fine, but I didn't get to play career mode or see how much cars cost but I was aware there were limited cars and tracks, It's definitely a good game but the business model and rushed launch(lack of content) are a let down and deserve a hit to the ratings.