Vigilant Walrus
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Alright that baboon thing is fucking crazy!
I don't know exactly how to describe the feeling while I was learning about this. Part awe, part fascination, part disturbing and part a feeling of ignorance due to how little we still know about the intelligence of some animals....or at least how little I seem to know.
Yeah! Have you seen this?; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-bB-qywJ0
This.. is crazy. Nytimes ran a really good piece on it; http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/13/science/no-time-for-bullies-baboons-retool-their-culture.html?_r=0
< Baboon Troop in Kenya
< Baboons are aggressive. Alpha pack leaders bully, abuse, rape and are aggressive towards the others.
< Tuberculosis outbreak in Kenya.
< Alpha Males take all the delicious contaminated meat for themselves.
< Alpha Males die. No aggressive leaders left. What now?
< Women of the group take charge.
< The troop becomes more peaceful, less territorial violence and abuse. Relatively. They are still baboons, but it woul be safe they went from North Korea to Switzerland in baboon welfare.
< Young males grow up, and are not hostile and aggressive as the alpha males who died of Tuberculosis.
< Can human beings overcome "violence, aggression and war is a part of our very nature?" We are always being told that our level of violence is unavoidable. It's just who we are as humans. Our closests relatives, the chimp are identical in our DNA structure at 98,4%. Chimps are the most violent of all primates. Humans are closer to chimps than the indian and the african elephant (according to my planet of the apes making off boxset).