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Four Months Later, Star Wars Battlefront PC is Dead
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MiguelItUp
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I suppose not. However I was just merely repeating what they've said. Curious how much those numbers are off if so. I was just adding that while the community may be "slim" it's far from dead. Especially after the Outer Rim DLC dropped. Hopefully the numbers pick up in the future more so.
joecanada
Member
I went back to bf4 on ps4 too. It's about 2x the fun basically
Right, but it ceases to be a moral argument when you literally use steam to LAUNCH the other service. I'm sure it would have less sales if not on Steam, but it's not because people are so vehemently opposed to installing other software, it's more due to visiblity.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Pretty incredible when you think that this is from DICE; a developer with, arguably, PC as their main development platform and having come right off from BF4 which STILL has toooonnnesss of people playing on PC. Guess this is what happens when no server browser and hardly any content.
CS:Go is not free to play.
I agree fully.
PC is upgrades though. We assemble them and each one is our own beautiful Frankenstein. On second thought, prebuilt PCs and notebooks count since they release yearly with better hardware.
I haven't signed on to Battle.net in years but I bet it's still alive.
i watched a video by Super Bunnyhop and he said all FPS MP games need bots and this is a good example.
Sword Of Doom
Member
aygomyownroad
Member
This is the why I never buy online multiplayer only games.
PC gamers have such a massive back catalogue that games need to really stand out to last. I think most games this gen on PC will bomb when it comes to online communities.
The only game this "gen" which has done well on PC is rocket league and that deserves it as it also has single player mode.
Overwatch has my attention however and I think that could be a game to have a great online community which lasts.
PC gamers have such a massive back catalogue that games need to really stand out to last. I think most games this gen on PC will bomb when it comes to online communities.
The only game this "gen" which has done well on PC is rocket league and that deserves it as it also has single player mode.
Overwatch has my attention however and I think that could be a game to have a great online community which lasts.
SuperBanana
Banned
I played it for about 4 hours and requested an Origin refund. There's just no content in the game and the changes they did to the Battlefield format were all shit. The cards sucked, the tokens to get into vehicles sucked, the heroes sucked. It was all bad.
Don't forget DICE was saying to PC players that modding Frostbite is 'to hard' for anyone..because you know everyone's a dumb idiot according to them on how the engine works they should know better because people will always figure out how everything works and make it better for years to come no modding since BF3/4 and this.
I wouldn't be surprised if Overwatch outlives current and next gen
devs have said they'll support it as long as people are still interested
Just checked on TF2
8 years old and still getting regular updates
PC gaming y'all
Very few (maybe no) game pick up steam without significant changes. EA is not that company that will do that and that's why when their games die, they stay dead. EA has zero interest in fostering communities.
GhostTrick
Banned
You know what Titanfall and Battlefront have in common ? Origin.
Origin has a far smaller player base than Steam.
Origin has a far smaller player base than Steam.
I still stand by my belief that it is always cause EA wanna sell cheap DLC that contains a couple of maps and weapons. If people started modding the game and doing the same stuff but free, EA would not be able to sell their DLCs and would have to go back to ordering bigger expansion packs that contained maps, modes, weapons, gear, game changing stuff ala. BF1942: Secret Weapons of WW2, BF2: Special Forces etc.
Dota 2? Hearthstone? Rust? DayZ? Tree of Savior? Warframe? Payday 2? R6 Siege?
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Was gonna buy it myself last week, but I checked the stats before I purchased.
Too bad the OP wasn't as cognizant.
Too bad the OP wasn't as cognizant.
Haunted
Member
Always inform yourself about the activity level of the multiplayer community on a given platform before a purchase.
Whether you want to take this as an indictment of PC MP gaming (small communities!) or lay the blame at the game's feet (not enough content, quality!) entirely depends on your perspective.
edit: I'm a fucking idiot, it's on Origin. :lol culprit found, case closed.
edit: I'm a fucking idiot, it's on Origin. :lol culprit found, case closed.
MiguelItUp
Member
Yeah, to be honest if anything is to be blamed on PC it's really Origin exclusivity. It was a mistake on EA's behalf from the get-go. Especially with anything with competitive multiplayer.
And this also i have Origin..but i am on Steam everyday than Origin it sits there sometimes i open it to get a free game from them that i don't mind after that i close it again.
SlickShoes
Member
I bought it at release and it was fine for the £25 I paid for it, much like titanfall though after a couple of weeks of playtime I felt no need to go back to it.
Origin is a factor too and all of these game launching clients are, my friends lists are all over the place on PC with no consistency and that makes me less likely to log into certain ones that only have 1 or 2 games worth playing.
I have already put more time into overwatch than most of my other PC games apart from csgo and tf2. Part of that is my battlenet launcher full of games and friends built up over many years, but part of it is knowing the game will be supported for the long haul and not get a sequel in a year, a good game stays a good game.
Origin is a factor too and all of these game launching clients are, my friends lists are all over the place on PC with no consistency and that makes me less likely to log into certain ones that only have 1 or 2 games worth playing.
I have already put more time into overwatch than most of my other PC games apart from csgo and tf2. Part of that is my battlenet launcher full of games and friends built up over many years, but part of it is knowing the game will be supported for the long haul and not get a sequel in a year, a good game stays a good game.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
PC gamers prefer Star Trek.
I don't think BF4 does better on PC than on consoles, but yeah, that game is going strong even though it had a terrible launch.
Naah, see, Battlefield 4 has 12k people playing at the moment, and that's a larger number than at least any four CoD games on Steam combined
GhostTrick
Banned
CoD games have a different problem though. Even though, BO3 is sitting at 6k people right now with a 19k peak in 24 hours.
Take for exemple R6 Siege. Smaller IP, yet 6k people on Steam at the same time right now. 9k peak in 24 hours.
The fact is, Origin is a much smaller platform with its biggest games performing far less.
But "being on Origin" isn't one of them.
Fine, let me rephrase that.
Battlefield 4 would make #19 on Steam's Top games by current player count list. There. Origin may have lowered the playerbase tail a bit, but it did not kill it
Yeah I remember this. RIght now, people are starting to figure out how to mod BF3 and figured out how to do 60hz servers.
GhostTrick
Banned
Are you willfully ignoring the comment I first responded to?
Prototype Viktor
Member
doubt anything battlefield game would fall faster than Evolve
GhostTrick
Banned
Bear Force One
Banned
Give it a few weeks...
Go where your friends are, but don't try to attribute that to a poor population on PC. That version is doing extremely well and the Steam numbers don't even tell the whole story.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Threat to what?
One glance at Seam stats will tell you why.
CS:GO - 660,000 peak and 200,000 currently.
Team Fortress 2 - 77,000 peak - 51,000 currently.
10th place Ark peaked at 55,000.
The community is there, but there's a lot of competition. Community is hugely important on the PC when it comes to MP games. It's a long term thing and the community is invested in the game. SWBF isn't that type of game.
CS:GO - 660,000 peak and 200,000 currently.
Team Fortress 2 - 77,000 peak - 51,000 currently.
10th place Ark peaked at 55,000.
The community is there, but there's a lot of competition. Community is hugely important on the PC when it comes to MP games. It's a long term thing and the community is invested in the game. SWBF isn't that type of game.
CrispyBoar
Banned
I agree. This is why companies like Capcom wants cross play between console & PC gamers, as they can all play with each other or against each other, as PC owners won't be enough. It's definitely helpful for genres like Sports, FPS's & Fighters.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
to WOTAN.
comshoplesce
Member
How? Didn't they report millions of copies being sold?
Not really.
For example, Mount and Blade Warband and Killing Floor have had fairly solid communities for the past 5 to 6 years.Still active and in Warband's case, it's more popular than ever. These are titles from B tier developers too.
Even stuff like Smite, Warframe, Payday, Terraria, Borderlands, Grim Dawn, Path of Exile, DayZ, and more have remained consistently popular over the years.
I would say its the exact opposite. PC gamers are less fluid, more diverse, and long term players than on the console side. Console gamers largely flock to the tent poles and stay there(i.e. Halo, Battlefield, COD,etc). Its why most of the games on consoles die after a month or two of release. With very few games growing. Almost every game I listed above grew in popularity. Warband was around 1000 daily when I first got it back in 2010. Now its floating above 10000 daily.
There has always been 2 key points though to sticking with PC games.
1. The online support/network. There is a reason why almost every Games for Windows is Dead on Arrival. If you don't give the community tools for their own servers and such. It's not going to have those legs. Searching for servers, mod support, etc.
2. How divided did the developers make the community. What works for console with all the DLC, does not work for PC. As proven, the exact opposite is true. Its better to make all player content free, but charge out of the ass for cosmetics and quicker unlock times. The less you fracture the community off, the more the game will stick.
Battlefront did both of the above and I would argue this was a game with consoles in mind, more than PC. Battlefield 3 and 4 are both still fairly popular. Hell, 2 and 1942 still have solid communities.
Visualante2
Member
People don't play shooters outside Steam