Graceful end? It ended on a friggin' cliffhanger with Scully separated from her child with a bunch aliens planning on invading the entire planet with M&S on the run from metal Super Soldiers, LOL!
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Fox "in talks" for X-Files revival
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AzureSkies
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Futurama had some pretty great seasons though after it came back, the movies were hit and miss but the show was consistently good.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Oh yes, because clearly we still have shitty sub-HD camera's and so on.
This won't work. That whole 'end of the millenium' atmosphere was CRAZY. You can't just put that show 'back in there' when that zeitgeist (there, I said it. Happy?) has passed into oblivion with the turn of the century.
Thankfully.
It's why the last movie bomber harder than a rock smashed by Hulk into the ground, if I remember correctly.
This won't work. That whole 'end of the millenium' atmosphere was CRAZY. You can't just put that show 'back in there' when that zeitgeist (there, I said it. Happy?) has passed into oblivion with the turn of the century.
Thankfully.
It's why the last movie bomber harder than a rock smashed by Hulk into the ground, if I remember correctly.
AzureSkies
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The last movie bombed because it was in development hell. If it was released back in 2003, it would have done considerably better.
The last movies bombed well because air launched two weeks before The Dark Knight which was super dumb. Had the movie aired during a slower period, it probably would have done a lot better.
Also X-Files fans were annoyed because the movie didn't give any answers the the season nine finale events (alien invasion events).
I want X-Files to happen simply because there is absolutely nothing like it on tv anymore. Supernatural is as about as close to X-Files as we get and I really miss good horror/sci-fi shows of the sort. Nothing wrong with variety... not everything has to be a lame comedy or cooking show these days...
Also X-Files fans were annoyed because the movie didn't give any answers the the season nine finale events (alien invasion events).
I want X-Files to happen simply because there is absolutely nothing like it on tv anymore. Supernatural is as about as close to X-Files as we get and I really miss good horror/sci-fi shows of the sort. Nothing wrong with variety... not everything has to be a lame comedy or cooking show these days...
True Detective and Luther ring any bells?
Isn't Lynch in talks about bringing back Twin Peaks set 20+ years after the original series?
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Not sure what you mean? X-Files was shot on 35mm. There are HD remasters out there and it looks great, fashion aside. A modern digital cinematic look would be fine for it (see The Fall with Anderson).
There's a lot of paranoia flying around right now, too, except it's not paranoia, because we know that governments are doing creepy shit. And conspiracy theories are more popular than ever. There's tons to use for inspiration. The last movie bombed because it didn't even try to take advantage of current events. It was a monster-of-the-week story.
Freeza Under The Shower
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I mean the whole "want to believe" and so on was mostly based on crappy videos, as that was the dominant technology at the time.
Today, even an 'ancient' smartphone makes better quality video, so it doesn't work.
Also: Echelon turned out to be real, didn't it? (Prism)
Can't make a conspiracy show and have a major one be casually confirmed.
Or have it be about Truthers who still can't accept that shitty video was still a thing in 2001. You can see what I mean now, right? Making this show today is either just not going to work, or asking for a LOT of trouble. Particularly because it's on Fox and having a running gag about a Kenian muslim in the office will get old fast.
The old show was great, but it, like The Matrix, is a clear and cut progeny of its time. You cannot 'just' bring that back. Not without plagiarising Grmm or something. I kind of feel that these shows have got this 'supernatural' angle covered by now. Particularly with all the superawful 'urban fantasy' *huuu-huuuuurk* to add to it. We already had Twilight and so on. It won't work.
Today, even an 'ancient' smartphone makes better quality video, so it doesn't work.
Also: Echelon turned out to be real, didn't it? (Prism)
Can't make a conspiracy show and have a major one be casually confirmed.
Or have it be about Truthers who still can't accept that shitty video was still a thing in 2001. You can see what I mean now, right? Making this show today is either just not going to work, or asking for a LOT of trouble. Particularly because it's on Fox and having a running gag about a Kenian muslim in the office will get old fast.
The old show was great, but it, like The Matrix, is a clear and cut progeny of its time. You cannot 'just' bring that back. Not without plagiarising Grmm or something. I kind of feel that these shows have got this 'supernatural' angle covered by now. Particularly with all the superawful 'urban fantasy' *huuu-huuuuurk* to add to it. We already had Twilight and so on. It won't work.
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Succinct Verbosity
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That and because X-Files greatest strengths laid in government conspiracies, aliens and unique monsters. The entire concept of the film sucked.
AzureSkies
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I completely agree, it was just a two hour monster of the week episode. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't exactly what I was expecting going into it.
MrCunningham
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I don;t really know, to be honest. The whole alien conspiracy thing is still just as big as it was, thanks to youtube and social media giving more people a voice. There's so much more noise than ever when it comes to trying to filter through fact and fiction. Same goes with government conspiracies in general.
The show always looked heads and shoulders above everything else on TV, because they did film in 35mm (and a widescreen format too). It really had a strong cinematic look tovisually it with a nice textured grain. Glad they made that choice.
Miss.Selfdestruct
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Brilliant.
+Have Lone Gunmen be part of legit Anon even.
+Snowden and Mr. X work together and communicate secretly via TOR.
+The Mars rover finding traces of life in Martian caves.
+Elon Musk equivalent kidnapped and held hostage by enemy gov.
+Ebola outbreak acting as a mask for a new deadly virus gone rampant from a lab.
Yet there's still shitty UFO footage somehow and Big Foot hunters...
Check out the Season 10 comics, it's as if the 2nd movie never happened, resolves William sort of, and feels like classic X-Files. Mulder/Scully are not Jim/Pam. Yeah, they're "together" in the comics but it's not lame.
Check out X-Files Year Zero. It doesn't touch on Arthur Dales but it's basically an X-Files prequel mini series.
Yep, that's why it came as such a disappointment. Just such poor planning and development and then they released it up against big movie like Batman.
Then it turns out to be a Monster of the week episode lengthened to film. The only good things about it were the usual dynamics between Mulder and Scully plus the cinematography.
The series definitely doesn't have a definitive "ending" aside from the death of Cigarette Smoking Spender, so it could use one.
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I honestly think that the plot may have been a little too hard to follow for general audiences for that one. While the idea was kind of simple, the execution was a bit more complicated, with a few "huh?" moments in it. At least for me there were, and it was something that I had to watch twice. Still, it would've been a decent two part episode, otherwise. But there was much higher expectations of this being a follow up to the alien plot of the TV show.
A Serious Man
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Please do this right.
Maninthemirror
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All I need is Fox Mulder.
EmptySpace
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beverly hills reboot didn't work.
what makes them think this one will?
let the cheesiness stay in the 90s. it won't work today, especially when there are shows like breaking bad and house of cards.
even brits hate dr. who. only americans who just got wind of it do.
what makes them think this one will?
let the cheesiness stay in the 90s. it won't work today, especially when there are shows like breaking bad and house of cards.
even brits hate dr. who. only americans who just got wind of it do.
bobbyrawlins
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I still love the first movie. I can't even remember what the second movie was about.
antisoulless
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There is a season 10 or something Comic. I wonder if this is considered cannon and it'll be part of it.
If not, fk it.
If not, fk it.
Miss.Selfdestruct
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I'm very confused as to why it won't work when Breaking Bad nor House of Cards have anything to do with E.T./gov. conspiracies and FBI chasing them... Also, Breaking Bad is over.
Gotta love this assumption that they would keep the 90s style of the show because that's when it was created and actually suited the time and technology.
super-heated plasma
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Please God let this happen. I am reaching it again right now. Almost done with season 6. They gotta make up for that last movie.
I loved the show like nothing else when it aired. But it's a product of its time and I firmly believe a continuation of the storyline and that world is a bad idea. The alien invasion, super soldiers, etc should just be left alone.
In a lot of ways, Fringe was a modern X-Files and it was damn good. The only way this would work would be to carve out their own identity and storyline-and not rely on past characters and story threads. Acknowledge Mulder and Scully's work and have someone else take over the x-Files department, indulge in conspiracy but no more Black Oil stuff.
In a lot of ways, Fringe was a modern X-Files and it was damn good. The only way this would work would be to carve out their own identity and storyline-and not rely on past characters and story threads. Acknowledge Mulder and Scully's work and have someone else take over the x-Files department, indulge in conspiracy but no more Black Oil stuff.
BigJonsson
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Would this take place after the movies or be a total reboot?
Last movie sucked. Was a monster of the week episode with a weak plot. Pretty much glossed over the end of the series and acted like nothing hapoeene (like 2012 invasion). Also it had Xibit as an FBI agent lmao
Even if you ignore the fact that the last movie feels disconnected and jarring being after the series. The film is bad on its own merits. Script is awful. Casting was awful. Just a big let down.
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I think I want this, but I worry that they'll bastardize one of my favourite shows.
The last movie was abhorrent.
The last movie was abhorrent.
superdeluxe
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The problem, there never was a graceful end.
superdeluxe
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They already said it would be a limited run.
An okay. Should read more closely. I would love a continuation as a mini series.
Also where are the damn Blu Rays of the series!? DVD version looks atrocious. Come on Fox!
Succinct Verbosity
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As much as I want a continuation, I think that the way conspiracy theories are now presented to the world has changed so much that they have no option but to reboot the franchise (or not mention the te Mulder/Scully years). Instead of focusing on shaky cam footage of UFO's, the newer series should tap into the way internet has fed into conspiracy culture and arguably made it a bigger thing than it once was.
this is still my favorite moment on X-files.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQy3_BQcCh4
chills to the very end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQy3_BQcCh4
chills to the very end
My take is that Fox wants to only bring it back if it's Carter, Anderson and Duchovny all on board. Basically they are focusing on mini seasons based on past properties. Like 24 coming back as a mini event. So I'm thinking a reboot is out of the question after reading what they said. So if it's Mulder and Scully it has to be a continuation or them side stepping the alien invasion and having a plot ignore that and bringing them back to the FBI.
Succinct Verbosity
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Are Fox the type on network that would go the mini-series route?
Sorry, I'm British. My only experience with Fox is how often they cancel shows.
It's a recent initiative they have started doing. So not usually. It's not common over here. But they saw some success with bringing 24 back as a mini event/season. At the press event where they announced they are in talks, they said the network wants to continue doing mini series of older properties and X Files is a candidate for that.
So my guess is that this will be an 8-12 episode season with Mulder and Scully. What the plot will be, I'd have no idea. But you are right. This isn't something FOX has done before. It's omly a recent thing.
Edit: I guess it's possible for them to do a new mini series if Carter is okay doing it without Mulder and Scully. Although the Fox executive said they are in talks with Duchovny and Anderson.
A modern X-Files show that had good writers that tapped into relevant conspiracy angles, social concerns about technology and an approach that tackled the Governments / politics of today - would watch.
I just get the feeling a reboot would place far too much emphasis on:
A) Reheated conspiracies taken from an approach that we're still in the 90's Culturally, not addressing the changes in opinions and scientific community.
B) Desperately trying to recapture the Mulder / Scully sexual chemistry in the leads first and foremost, as THE paramount driving force (instead of getting two competent characters in their own right and seeing what develops over time).
The second point is particularly important. Look back at S1 Anderson in particular - she was a grounded, believable Agent of that level. I mean this in the nicest way (and bear in mind I found Scully always attractive), I don't believe a rebooted X-Files would have anything other than traditionally gorgeous leads from the get-go.
I just get the feeling a reboot would place far too much emphasis on:
A) Reheated conspiracies taken from an approach that we're still in the 90's Culturally, not addressing the changes in opinions and scientific community.
B) Desperately trying to recapture the Mulder / Scully sexual chemistry in the leads first and foremost, as THE paramount driving force (instead of getting two competent characters in their own right and seeing what develops over time).
The second point is particularly important. Look back at S1 Anderson in particular - she was a grounded, believable Agent of that level. I mean this in the nicest way (and bear in mind I found Scully always attractive), I don't believe a rebooted X-Files would have anything other than traditionally gorgeous leads from the get-go.
PedroPanache
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I'm not sure I'm that interested in them finishing off the alien invasion arc. By the end of the series, the mythology was such a tangled, incoherent mess that it made . No wonder the last film sidestepped the whole issue with a badly misjudged monster of the week episode. Besides, the series was at its best when it was being playful and light. What's often understated about the show is just how brilliantly deadpan Duchovny played Mulder. Bad Blood, Small Potatoes and Quagmire are some of my favourite episodes. Brilliant writing and the interplay and chemistry between Duchovny and Anderson elevated the already super sharp dialogue. Supernatural owes a large debt to that aspect of The X-Files. It basically laid the foundations of how to do comedy episodes within a serious mythology show.
I think, from series 4 onwards, the writing, directing and execution have aged incredibly well. Season 1-3 are dated, in large parts, but later seasons bridged the gap between 80s/90s cheesy, disposable TV to the serious melodrama of serials such as Fringe.
I think, from series 4 onwards, the writing, directing and execution have aged incredibly well. Season 1-3 are dated, in large parts, but later seasons bridged the gap between 80s/90s cheesy, disposable TV to the serious melodrama of serials such as Fringe.
Miles Quaritch
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I welcome a reboot/revival or whatever they want to call it, but can we please get a sequel to the first X-Files movie?
I want to know how that specific story ends. 10 years of teasing, they can't just not address it.
I want to know how that specific story ends. 10 years of teasing, they can't just not address it.
I agree but I'm sure the monster of the week episodes will still be entertaining.
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