• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

Foxconn Prez: "3D printing is a gimmick"

Status
Not open for further replies.
Thanks, that's good news. I really want to make some cool dessert shapes, and especially a Rugrats Reptar bar mould ever since that recipe for the bars was posted on gaf a while ago.

It will be porous though, so you may want to get your hands on some acetone and a hair-dryer so you can fuse the surface of the material to keep anything from creeping into the part.
 
It is a shitty gimmick... I don't get the hype.
You can't choose out of a lot of materials, you can't make any electronics or mechanical internals, you can't mix materials.
It's basically worthless for anything but flimsy toys and trinkets

Tell me when you can make an engine, nm scale transistors, a bearing, functional insulating clothing etc out of it, which is never

I guess if you feel the need to make your own doorstop or toy miniature you can use it, but then you could just use a knife and a piece of wood.

Looks like you and Mr. Uog share the same incapability to comprehend technology advancements.

I'm sure people like you in the 60's couldn't understand what all the hype about these oversized calculators called computers were about either.
 
3D printing is a looooooonnnnng time away from mass production. It's really awesome for prototyping, but it ends there, in my opinion.

It's gonna take some random person with a crazy interest in 3D printing for it to take its next leap. I have little faith in one of the top 3D printing companies to take that jump based on their upper management. Doesn't mean another company can't do it obviously, but yeah..currently I'm not seeing it.

Agreed.

Even if there is such an attempt at a future leap, I think there will eventually be some pushback against 3D printing from governments and certain industries in an attempt to prevent it from becoming too popular, among other things. I also think that some folks may be wary of it becoming too widespread in other industries out of fear that it could put certain groups of people out of work.

We (especially the US) could be way further ahead in many areas of technology than we are currently. But there are "old guard" entities out there with a vested interest in keeping such advances down or buried.
 
ROCK HILL, South Carolina, June 26, 2013 – 3D Systems (NYSE:DDD) and Planetary Resources, Inc. announced today that 3D Systems has joined Planetary Resources’ core group of investors and will be a collaborative partner in assisting Planetary Resources to develop and manufacture components of its ARKYD Series of spacecraft using its advanced 3D printing and digital manufacturing solutions.

Nice, for a gimmick.
 
It's not a gimmick, it's just another production process, pretty useful in some fields... but obviously he knows that.

What is true is that there is a hype from people than know shit about these things, and a lot of headlines talking about it in yellow journalism histories that don't make a whole lot of sense.
 
Yeah, it's over hyped by the press, but it is very useful for certain things, like producing unique objects that would be difficult, slow and expensive to make traditionally.

It's however very far away from consumers being able to print electronics or most of the other stuff they would buy from a store.
 
Nice, for a gimmick.

Oh its fantastic for low volume plastic stuff. 3D printing may be expensive per-unit-volume of material but compared to the costs of building a dedicated mold or casting setup its far and away a boon for applications where you only need a few components.
 
3D printers are akin to daisy wheel word processors right now.

Wait until we get the equivalent of dot matrix and then laser printers. Will make factories seem like a gimmick.

Thing is they probably will never be as fast as mass production but how many iPhones do you need to print in a day, personally?
 
They're printing organs. They've printed things for your ears that have helped deaf people hear for the first time. They've printed food that astronauts can eat. That's fucking Star Trek replication levels. Gimmick. Hah!
 
Remember those moon colonies people predicted in the 50s? People have repeatedly over- and underestimated technological progress and its economical use/feasibility.



Of course it matters. When you need space (for the machine and materials), an initial money investment (for the device and materials), time (to learn the device, for maintenance etc.) that's already a severe disadvantage.

Don't get me wrong, 3d printing will certainly find its use, e.g. for niche products or creative arts, for specific productions that might not be feasible for mass production (which is actually a really amazing use), but there's really no good point why (local) 3d printing would cause problems for manufacturing companies (in the forseeable future). That said, I'm sure we might reach the point someday where 3D printing truly replaces traditional manufacturing for various (mass-produced) products, but it seems dubious for the near future.

Yeah. Everything predicted isn't bound to happen. But 3d printing does exist today and is not too unreasonably priced. But remember that the exact same weaknesses could be said of the first computer printers too. Sure, the 3d printer ad material takes a bit more space.
But it'll need some kind of breakthrough in price/performance too. And as you say, probably later than sooner but who knows. I do know that I'll have a blast the first time I use one.
 
So "will be a while" = "gimmick"?

...perhaps if your foxconn yeah. Even if it gets up to par what if it sucks comparatively to something else since it will be some time till its even worth considering? Some technology misses the boat and ultimately is a gimmick in the long run to some users.
 
Well, using my brother's I've been able to print a handy stand for my iPad, Nexus 7 and Nexus 4. Also gonna use it to print caps for curtain rails we installed a while ago.

Oh, and in one day, my brother designed and printed a prototype of something for his workplace which would have taken them more than a fortnight to do with traditional methods.
 
You can make bearings with 3d printers. Someone made a bike using 3d printing also.

It can print aluminium or hardened steel or stainless steel now?
I'm talking an actual functional bearing, not some plastic sliding ring that will wear out in under a day.

It's people who say it's exciting who can't come up with a useful purpose for it other than 'use your imagination' or 'maybe in the future', not people who think it's shit moving goalposts.
For it to be an 'in the future' thing it would actually have to be a proof of concept for useful materials, but all it is is layering polymers that you can melt and squeeze through a print nozzle.

Another poster compared it to a computer...yeah because this is totally like the invention of the transistor...

It's not like I have a grudge against the tech personally btw, I just see a gimmick that for some reason gets a lot more credit than it deserves right now.
Generally you wait for some kind of meaningful breakthrough before you call an invention the future.
 
While I definitely believe that there's a future for the tech, I can't help but think that a lot of its supporters are underestimating the complexity of a lot of common objects.
 
clothing.jpg

This is now the Dita Von Tesse thread.
 
It can print aluminium or hardened steel or stainless steel now?
I'm talking an actual functional bearing, not some plastic sliding ring that will wear out in under a day.

It's people who say it's exciting who can't come up with a useful purpose for it other than 'use your imagination' or 'maybe in the future', not people who think it's shit moving goalposts.
For it to be an 'in the future' thing it would actually have to be a proof of concept for useful materials, but all it is is layering polymers that you can melt and squeeze through a print nozzle.

Another poster compared it to a computer...yeah because this is totally like the invention of the transistor...

It's not like I have a grudge against the tech personally btw, I just see a gimmick that for some reason gets a lot more credit than it deserves right now.
Generally you wait for some kind of meaningful breakthrough before you call an invention the future.

3D Metal Printing.

They have used the technology to create a titanium jawbone.
NASA is working on 3D printers for food.
 
3D printing could prove to be invaluable for creating hard to find parts, where manufacturer does not have production line setup for them anymore... but to come to that point, it will take decade if not more.
 
3D Metal Printing.

They have used the technology to create a titanium jawbone.
NASA is working on 3D printers for food.
IIRC ~2 years ago on American Choppers they tried to print a a metal part. It worked, but it was a nightmare to remove to the support material. :P

The process is really inefficient now, but I have nothing but optimism for 3D printing.
 
Looks like you and Mr. Uog share the same incapability to comprehend technology advancements.

I'm sure people like you in the 60's couldn't understand what all the hype about these oversized calculators called computers were about either.

You can't even fit those in your house man...
 
Something that can print functional guns is a gimmick?

Anyone read Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson? He describes these things called Matter Compilers. They are attached to Feeds which are cables attached to your house that carry molecules that the M.C. uses to build whatever (food, anything). Every house has a Feed cable attached to it kinda like how we have power lines now.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom