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French Hardware-Sales [Jan-Mar07]
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Shiggy said:
Well, they do decently in the UK right? I admit I'm probably being optimistic..trying to give Microsoft the benefit of the doubt here. I just assumed sales were much higher- like 175-200K a month.
mckmas8808
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WOW!!! The PS3 did pretty well.
AdmiralViscen
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schuelma said:
More like late June.
AdmiralViscen said:
Well, if the Wii was about 3M behind as of April 1st , Nintendo would need to gain about 1M a month. I guess its possible depending on how much their supply increases, but I'd say its still unlikely. It's all semantics though; the point is that Microsoft is even weaker than I thought it was in Europe which means the Wii catching it is absolutely unavoidable.
AdmiralViscen
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schuelma said:
They're selling a million a month so far, and they boosted production starting with April. If it's not June, it's definitely July.
The difference between the Wii and PS3 sales is that the PS3 numbers are for its strong launch period and the Wii's are from its post-launch period. We know that the Wii continues to sell strong and sells out of its shipments even this far after its launch and the holiday season. And we also know that the PS3 has fallen flat on its face post-launch in every region of the world.
Holy Order Sol
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WTF @ 360 numbers.
You can find them bundled with two games for 400.
You can find them bundled with two games for 400.
Xbox was 2nd in Europe, except in France and Spain where it was behind the Gamecube. I don't know about Spain, but in France anything that from Microsoft is seen as suspicious. We temd to see too successful companies as "bad", especially if they are American. And of course we loooove Japanese stuff. I'm as guilty about this as everyone else, if Sega had not supported the Xbox in the beginning I'd never had bought it in the first place.Kiriku said:
Still, it's funny that the biggest online Xbox site community in the world is in France.
Ynos Yrros said:
Ca c'est merde amis, they were just potshots of one launch venue and one point in time. C'etait pas représentant de tout la France bien sur :/
PS3 had a decent enough launch in Europe, but like everywhere else, if you didn't want a PS3 at launch, there's no reason to want one a month, two months, three months etc. etc. later.
PS3 sales will plummet until mid-June, when the games finally come.
InterMoniker said:
In case you didn't reaise, the entire planet outside of the US, hates the US. Europeans particularly.
You try asking the average Brit on the street what he/she thinks of the US, you'd get a very, very negative response.
Anyway, Europe is into football games, cricket games, action adventures and most Japanese titles - the 360 corners none of those markets, Nintendo and Sony always have, so people are waiting until they can afford/there are games for the PS3, if they haven't already bought a Wii.
Btw, there will be extremely few instances of Wii60 or PSWii in Europe - it's one or the other.
Lots of the PS3 sales were preorders. As far as I heard it's been the most successful preorders of a game console ever. Sony's mistake was to think that people would preorder in mass AND also come queue up for hours. The Champs-Elysées/Boat scenes weren't the only one in France, and I think lots of retailers will think twice before doing another midnight launch event for a console.Yixian said:
Blimblim said:
Well, at least in northern Italy, Microsoft reputation is very low, but not because they are succesful. It's because their most famous products (Office & Windows) are full of problems and tend to explode right in the face of the user.. The 360 hardware quality just cemented the impression I guess.
Here's a link with the latest french sales charts.
http://www.gamekult.com/blog/marchiavel/
http://www.gamekult.com/blog/marchiavel/
He, I was really surprised today when the guy behind at the supermarket brought a PS3 out of his cart. Along with a 2nd Sixaxis and surprisingly... Ridge Racer 7. I almost stopped to tell him he should get Motorstorm instead, but then it was none of my business.Masklinn said:
Me_Marcadet
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Blimblim said:
nintendo community is very strong too, but people who love sony are black sheeps on french forums, even when sony was on top of salescharts.
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InterMoniker said:
everyone hates you guys.
Also, what does the US have to do with Sonys product again?
AdmiralViscen
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catfish said:
What does "Jump In" have to do with Sony's product again?
DeadyFernGarden
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DaFlash here from Nintendowii.net.nz I request someone create an Ireland "this is living" gif resplendant with a leprachaun waving a wiimote and guiness!
Xzbeat said:
Dragonball Z Wii sold very well in France (ranked at 1 the week after PS3 launch!)
and still ranked at 2 , two weeks later :
http://www.jeux-france.com/blog_Otsuka
top 4 :
1 - NSMB
2 - DBZ Wii
3 - Wii play
4 - Animal Crossing
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**** I have no idea? Is that a microsoft pr thing? :lolAdmiralViscen said:
The Sphinx said:
http://www.jeux-france.com/blog_Tyu :
Espagne: 150k Wii, 1,5m DS
Déja 150.000 de wii vendu pour l'année fiscale. On devrait se rapprocher des 200.000. Et deja plus d'1.5 million de DS vendues rien qu'en Espagne
Voici la news en anglais. Juste pour dire que la PS2 et la PSP cartonnent également là-bas. Niveau portable: ca fait 2/3 DS pour 1/3 PSP.
Nintendo Spain has said to the spanish magazine ElMundo that in 4 months Wii has sold 150K, and of course the system is outsold unintentionally.
Nintendo DS sold 1M5 last fiscal year, topping the charts as the most sold system in 2006 wining over he mystic PlayStation 2. BTW, the system has sold twice the numbers of PSP. (which are good numbers here in Spain too. Sonyland confirmed)
On software, Nintendo Spain is proud to say that Brain training has sold almost half a million there, and continues strong month by month (like Nintendogs and Animal Crossing).
It's a long term run. We must be careful Said Luciano Pereña, CEO of Nintendo of Spain.
Those are some pretty good PS3 numbers. The system will really take off when it drops in price.
I think MS is kind of ****ed already in Europe. The X360 isn't selling too hotly at the moment, and it is wedged between the new hotness (Wii) and the established market leader (PS3).
But hey, MS is probably just happy they are outselling the PS3 in the USA. Even though looking at the numbers people shunning the PS3 are not currently buying X360s instead.
I think MS is kind of ****ed already in Europe. The X360 isn't selling too hotly at the moment, and it is wedged between the new hotness (Wii) and the established market leader (PS3).
But hey, MS is probably just happy they are outselling the PS3 in the USA. Even though looking at the numbers people shunning the PS3 are not currently buying X360s instead.
Third-Party wii Softwares sell very good here in Europe. Yesterday I saw 2 people buying Heatseeker and Wing Island at Brussels' Fnac :lol
There were a lot of DBZ in sale. Sure, it will sell. France and french part of belgium are the second mangaland in the world.
No available wii anywhere. I saw people searching for wii's. Still crazy but a lot of ds lites were available.
There were a lot of DBZ in sale. Sure, it will sell. France and french part of belgium are the second mangaland in the world.
No available wii anywhere. I saw people searching for wii's. Still crazy but a lot of ds lites were available.
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The market in France is very similar to the Japanese one IMO. I think this is due to the fact that in France kids grew up on anime much earlier than in America (there was a lot of French productions made in Japan like The Mysterious Cities of Gold, Les Mousquetaires, etc. plus they had Dragon Ball way earlier than anyone else outside Japan). But that's a guess explanation really. Nintendo anyway is a very strong brand over there.
EDIT: This also explains indirectly why the Sony brand is also strong while MS has more difficulties, since the Playstation has more Japanese games like FF, etc.
EDIT: This also explains indirectly why the Sony brand is also strong while MS has more difficulties, since the Playstation has more Japanese games like FF, etc.
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Ah the ever so trendy lines: "They hates us even though we freed them from the Nazis. Those cheese eating surrender monkeys. And I know all that despite ever leaving the US-Fox News told me so."InterMoniker said:
As others have pointed out, MS is seen in a more controversial way pretty much all around Europe. Lots of people shun their business strategy, it has nothing to do with them being a US based company. We wouldn't be drinking Coca Cola, wouldn't be buying Procter & Gamble products if we would hate the US that much now would we?
360 isn't enjoying the success it's having in the US because of a lot of different reasons:
-PC gaming is really strong throughout Europe, a lot of 360 games are being released on PC as well
-a lot of European markets are very price-sensitive; which correlates with the first point, software is cheaper for PC by FAR
-360 is seen as an unreliable product
-HD-TV penetration is even lower than in the US
Blaming the slow sales of 360 on anti-Americanism is just dumb.
Yeah, console (software and hardware) are much more expensive in europe than in e.g. the US, which gets even more stupid when factoring in the exchange rates (currently sitting at about $1.36 per euro)Phife Dawg said:
Aren't US HDTV penetration rates the highest in the world or something?Phife Dawg said:
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cvxfreak said:
you'll soon have to blame someone else (nicolas...)
anyway, nice score for PS3. doesn't impress me at all, france being another sonyland
I wish we'd get more charts from our country :/
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Ether_Snake said:
yeah i was watching Dragon Ball/Saint Seiya when I was 7 in 1987 and my sister who is 34 was watching Albator(Captain Harlock) and Goldorak(UFO Robot Grendizer) when she was a little girl. So yeah the japanese influence is pretty big around here.
MS should blame her
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothée
Blablurn said:Sorry, but i can't unterstand this global domination of the wii. or maybe I just don't want to understand it. Call me a Sony-Fanboy, I don't care.
New gameplay ? Ninty has create a new way of gaming. Buyers are crazy about the wiimote more that they were crazy about the DS' stylus. That's it.
Of course, Eye toy, for exemple, is also a new way of gaming but Sony did not want to include it in her hard. And when you bring a revolution in videogame, it's easier to impose when you include it in your hard...
Of course the Microsoft's numbers are atrocious. I mean, look at its current game offerings in PALand:
- Soccer games: few of them, and not exactly very good ones
- Hack and slash games a la DMC: Almost none
- Quirky games: none
- JPRGs: Few an not good at all
- Artsy games a la Shadow of the colossus or SPM: none
Sure, there are tons of sports games, FPSes and shooters, but come on...
Stop with the "Japan hates America, Europe hates america, Moldavia hates America" crap to justify the 360 failure in these lands. Microsoft has been really slow to understand and react to consumer tastes in other parts of the world other than anglo saxon countries. Sure, Banjo, Lost odyssey and Ninja Gaiden are coming and are a heck of a big improvement over the original FPSbox, but right now the failure can only be atributed to theirselves.
Also, there's the fact that if you want to play PC games in Europe, you just go and play them. Europeans don't tend to be too much found of "me too" products, and right now the xbox is saw as a mix between a playstation and a pc without being none of them. The whole image and concept behind xbox is flawed and heavily geared toward an American audience, and it is showing off.
That being said, I don't think that everything is lost, Microsoft started to get the right idea and titles like CryOn, Eternal Sonata or Banjo & Kazojiee will surely boost more systems here than Gears of War, but I wonder how effective they will be: I personally think that they might arrive too late. Have these titles been ready before the Wii / PS3 arrived, and you would be seeing a different scenario in Europe.
- Soccer games: few of them, and not exactly very good ones
- Hack and slash games a la DMC: Almost none
- Quirky games: none
- JPRGs: Few an not good at all
- Artsy games a la Shadow of the colossus or SPM: none
Sure, there are tons of sports games, FPSes and shooters, but come on...
Stop with the "Japan hates America, Europe hates america, Moldavia hates America" crap to justify the 360 failure in these lands. Microsoft has been really slow to understand and react to consumer tastes in other parts of the world other than anglo saxon countries. Sure, Banjo, Lost odyssey and Ninja Gaiden are coming and are a heck of a big improvement over the original FPSbox, but right now the failure can only be atributed to theirselves.
Also, there's the fact that if you want to play PC games in Europe, you just go and play them. Europeans don't tend to be too much found of "me too" products, and right now the xbox is saw as a mix between a playstation and a pc without being none of them. The whole image and concept behind xbox is flawed and heavily geared toward an American audience, and it is showing off.
That being said, I don't think that everything is lost, Microsoft started to get the right idea and titles like CryOn, Eternal Sonata or Banjo & Kazojiee will surely boost more systems here than Gears of War, but I wonder how effective they will be: I personally think that they might arrive too late. Have these titles been ready before the Wii / PS3 arrived, and you would be seeing a different scenario in Europe.
I cannot coprehend the PS3 not having a football game yet, and not having one lined up until October. I would have thought Sony would have gone to the ends of the earth to find even the most no-named dev to knock out a quick footy title - it doesn't matter how bad it was, it would ship big numbers of systems if it was around at launch.
Sony likes to pretend Europe doesn't matter to its success, despite the fact that Europe made the Playstation brand. A console needs at least 2 territories to survive a generation, and America wasn't warming to the PSX - Japan and Europe have been Sony lands ever since the first Playstation, Europe rakes in vast amounts of money for Sony, and yet Japan is the only one of the two that gets any love.
Sony likes to pretend Europe doesn't matter to its success, despite the fact that Europe made the Playstation brand. A console needs at least 2 territories to survive a generation, and America wasn't warming to the PSX - Japan and Europe have been Sony lands ever since the first Playstation, Europe rakes in vast amounts of money for Sony, and yet Japan is the only one of the two that gets any love.