I'm not seeing it. Are all retorts and counters going to be called salty now?
Pretty much. I did a double take when squidyj called me salty for attempting to voice my opinion on the tweet.
Everyone arguing for the other team is salty now.
I'm not seeing it. Are all retorts and counters going to be called salty now?
Maybe you should look up the Sega Dreamcast.
PS4 & XB3 = OoE (netbook) CPU
WiiU = OoE CPU
Hard to believe EA can't technically run it. It's the money. Plain and simple. Not enough ROI in the forecast.
Don't know about that comment. I would ask him around what time that was tested and if it was with the latest dev kit. Also how much effort was put into optimizing it, I am guessing not much, dat unprecedented partnership!!!
Let's see how that pays off, I really hope it comes back to bite them.
Don't know about that comment. I would ask him around what time that was tested and if it was with the latest dev kit. Also how much effort was put into optimizing it, I am guessing not much, dat unprecedented partnership!!!
Let's see how that pays off, I really hope it comes back to bite them.
Lol bitter Nintendo fans who know more about DICE engine than DICE
I thought non of you brought the wii u, wii u, wii u, wii for third party games, so why the tears?
I wonder when the myth of "hardware power has nothing to do with third party support" will end. So much evidence but I still see people plug their ears and go "lalalala can't hear you".
CoD isn't EA. Even then, I don't believe this money issue, otherwise they would stop making games that only caters to the 15-20 male demographic, which they don't want to see fleeing to a Nintendo system.It is a money issue, they probably looked at COD numbers(i'm guessing they were terrible) and said it wasn't worth the man hours.
The reason they could snub the Dreamcast was because of its low sales.I thought that had more to do with the 2k vs. Madden beef than console sales, as EA backed the Xbox and Gamecube and Dreamcast was on track to sell as well as either of them.
Lol bitter Nintendo fans who know more about DICE engine than DICE
I thought non of you brought the wii u, wii u, wii u, wii for third party games, so why the tears?
Pretty much. I did a double take when squidyj called me salty for attempting to voice my opinion on the tweet.
Everyone arguing for the other team is salty now.
But these things aren't exclusive and independent. It can be a small installed base issue, a small audience within that installed base, a bad ROI issue, a development tools issue and the hardware isn't that great for what they want to do.
The reason they could snub the Dreamcast was because of its low sales.
You hope that being smart with their money/resources comes back to bite them? That's awesome.
You should write fan fiction imoThere's a positive to all this. Wii U will probably have a lifespan of 3-4 years max (I mean why not? Nintendo doesn't even seem to care about it). 2015 seems like enough time to pass for Nintendo to haggle some retcon parts that can run PS4 ports with ease.
This could serve them well till PS5/1440 show up in say, 2023/2024.
It's either that or watching another Wii repeat unfold for the next 10 years but with no waggle phenomenon to back it.
I dunno. It seems like Nintendo is screwed either way. Show me something reaffirming.
Nintendo made the mistake of trying to rely on 3rd parties. I remember saying something to the effect that if they relied on 3rd parties for the Wii they were going to fail. Well it ended up being the Wii U, but the results are proving the same.
The reason they could snub the Dreamcast was because of its low sales.
There's a positive to all this. Wii U will probably have a lifespan of 3-4 years max (I mean why not? Nintendo doesn't even seem to care about it). 2015 seems like enough time to pass for Nintendo to haggle some retcon parts that can run PS4 ports with ease.
This could serve them well till PS5/1440 show up in say, 2023/2024.
It's either that or watching another Wii repeat unfold for the next 10 years but with no waggle phenomenon to back it.
I dunno. It seems like Nintendo is screwed either way. Show me something reaffirming.
The mistake wasnt relying on third parties. You need them. The mistake was putting so much money into the controller instead of the console. Power is the reason frostbite 3 games won't be on the Wii U.
Dat last tweet.
The mistake wasnt relying on third parties. You need them. The mistake was putting so much money into the controller instead of the console. Power is the reason frostbite 3 games won't be on the Wii U.
What do you mean?Nothing in this post has any basis in reality, does it?
How badly does the Wii U's slow RAM cripple the hardware?
When testing our first code on Wii U we were amazed how much we could throw at it without any slowdowns, at that time we even had zero optimizations. The performance problem of hardware nowadays is not clock speed but ram latency. Fortunately Nintendo took great efforts to ensure developers can really work around that typical bottleneck on Wii U. They put a lot of thought on how CPU, GPU, caches and memory controllers work together to amplify your code speed. For instance, with only some tiny changes we were able to optimize certain heavy load parts of the rendering pipeline to 6x of the original speed, and that was even without using any of the extra cores.
What do you mean?
The mistake wasnt relying on third parties. You need them. The mistake was putting so much money into the controller instead of the console. Power is the reason frostbite 3 games won't be on the Wii U.
So you're saying you know?
Pretty much. I did a double take when squidyj called me salty for attempting to voice my opinion on the tweet.
Everyone arguing for the other team is salty now.
I'm saying you don't and a lot of people who don't are acting like they do.
but you couldn't be bothered to respond to the statements that followed the identification of your saltiness. I may have called you salty but I didn't waste time and space to just call you salty with no content to it. I made a case for what it meant for your opinion to be salty, and why your salty opinion might not be actually be sound, based as it is, on salty assumptions. now you're upset about people calling you salty on the internet while adding nothing but salt to the conversation. Good Job, Salty Bob.
Perhaps you'd like to try again and suggest just why someone should privilege your reading of the tweet?
It probably doesn't. Nintendo tend to balance their systems so the all work quite efficiently together. If course that doesn't mean it's a beast.How badly does the Wii U's slow RAM cripple the hardware?
I'm saying you don't and a lot of people who don't are acting like they do.
So, power is the reason when a console widely perceived as close in power to the PS360 doesn't get a next gen engine that is also being ported to the PS360.
But those two consoles are exempt from the power rule because they have a large install base that would justify the cost....
...yet the Wii U's small install base isn't the reason, it must be power.
Do you see why that makes absolutely no sense?
but you couldn't be bothered to respond to the statements that followed the identification of your saltiness. I may have called you salty but I didn't waste time and space to just call you salty with no content to it. I made a case for what it meant for your opinion to be salty, and why your salty opinion might not be actually be sound, based as it is, on salty assumptions. now you're upset about people calling you salty on the internet while adding nothing but salt to the conversation. Good Job, Salty Bob.
Despite what angry fanboys assert this seems like a bigger problem for Nintendo than EA.
Despite what angry fanboys assert this seems like a bigger problem for Nintendo than EA.
You hope that being smart with their money/resources comes back to bite them? That's awesome.
Considering how long the PS3/360 last and how Sony pumped 8GB's of ram into their next gen console, I think 10 years is a fair assessment. The exception may be when 4k drops by and the hardware needed for it is strong.For me, it was little things like believing Nintendo will give up on the Wii U in 3-4 years and that Sony and Microsoft will go 10 years without releasing next gen hardware.
Sorry for double post, btw.
No, no it isn't. It's return on investment. Opportunity cost isn't there to justify the port and associated engine op
So, power is the reason when a console widely perceived as close in power to the PS360 doesn't get a next gen engine that is also being ported to the PS360.
But those two consoles are exempt from the power rule because they have a large install base that would justify the cost....
...yet the Wii U's small install base isn't the reason, it must be power.
Do you see why that makes absolutely no sense?
Are you playing dumb?
Ps4 & XB3 = 100gflops
WiiU = 15gflops
WiiU isn't a "GPU-centric" design, it just has an old, crappy CPU.
Translation: "Lazy port wasn't going to run perfectly so we gave up."
It is what it is.
Joke made in Nintendo's "defense" salty any other company and it would have been called snappy and applauded by the same people referring to the tweeter as a fanboyIf the comment were said in any other context it wouldn't be considered salt; but because its Nintendo some people are trying to make it out to be something its not.
If people don't see a big gap between 'unprecedented partnership' and 'no Madden' then I'll leave that to them. But its frustrating seeing people making it out like theres not more going on here.