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I'm actually a bit surprised FTC decided to go down this route instead of arguing gaming PCs could be considered a competitor to the three consoles, a platform where MS influence is no doubt much larger.

 

[Spyxos]

I never understood the argument before, that the Switch is not part of the competition.

 

[Closer]

I'm actually a bit surprised FTC decided to go down this route instead of arguing gaming PCs could be considered a competitor to the three consoles, a platform where MS influence is no doubt much larger.

But then it would be MS Store vs Steam, and we know who's really bigger.

 

[brian0057]

I'm actually a bit surprised FTC decided to go down this route instead of arguing gaming PCs could be considered a competitor to the three consoles, a platform where MS influence is no doubt much larger.

They still would've lost. Windows may be the market leader but they don't have a monopoly. This is like when people say Steam is a monopoly.
Neither of them are. Being successful is not a crime.
And the term "gaming PC" makes no sense as any PC can be one, be it weak or powerful. The appeal of PCs is that they can do many things. And that includes gaming.
The truth is that the FTC never had a good case to begin with.

 

[deriks]

Was that even a question?

 

[Sorcerer]

Of course, Nintendo is a competitor. If a consumer is faced with a descion between Tears of the Kingdom and Redfall, well that my friends is competition.

 

[Kerotan]

I imagine Kerotan going ape shit trying to explain to this judge how Switch doesn't compete because it is not a traditional home console same as he went against Nautilus.

Let's not worry about Nautilisious because he's been laid to rest. RIP.

PS. My standing was always that Nintendo is an indirect competitor which if you look up the definition is literally a competitor.

 

[BlackTron]

So wait, are you saying that all companies that are trying to get my time and money in my limited lifespan are competitors to xbox?

No, just your gaming time and money.

 

[Gone]

I mean it's obvious, unless you're the FTC or a member of a certain group here.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

 

[Kataploom]

So does mobile then?

Completely different gaming market, they don't even run in the same servers as consoles + PC do, they don't compete for the same audience.

 

[StueyDuck]

anyone who thought that 3 video game consoles that play video games aren't competing is an actual moron.

They are absolutely competitors, and if steam deck ever got big enough they would be part of the conversation too.

 

[ReBurn]

It just highlights the mistake the FTC made by ignoring Series S and making the "high performance console" market the main console focus in regard to CoD. It never made sense considering there are people playing modern Activision games on Series S consoles that are not in the "high performance" segment. Series S and a docked Switch absolutely do compete for casual dollars and casual gamers do play Call of Duty.

 

[dem]

So does mobile then?

When you go into Walmart is “mobile” in the gaming section? Right next to the Nintendo, Xbox, PlayStation section that are set up in the exact same way?

 

[Woopah]

All three companies compete directly against each other in the dedicated video game device market.

 

[ProgenitorCastle]

Yo mamma is a competitor to the Xbox

 

[Mr Moose]

 

[Topher]

Yes they are competitors in the video game market, but Xbox does not compete with Nintendo as closely as they compete with PlayStation. The games that are popular with Nintendo are not the same as the games that are popular on Xbox/PS. Just saying they are "competitors" is surface level analysis.

 

[Toons]

Wait, did some of you people here actually buy the FTC line of horseshit that Nintendo isn't a competitor in the console space?

Clearly some did.

Its becoming clearer why gaming is in the state its in.

 

[dem]

You know when you think about it.. Pat's and Geno's don't compete either. A Geno's customer likes a sliced steak... but a Pats customer likes it chopped!

Totally different markets!

 

[daclynk]

NO its weak.

 

[StealthGoblin]

Microsoft need to decide who they are competing against. Maybe that’s why they’ve come last each and every time.

 

[systemr123]

Of course, Nintendo is a competitor. If a consumer is faced with a descion between Tears of the Kingdom and Redfall, well that my friends is competition.

People actually have to make a decision there? I think no one would even consider Redfall.

 

[Portugeezer]

Getting a 360p 20fps version of Witcher 3 is considered a miracle port.

But yeah, competitor.

 

[Sorcerer]

People actually have to make a decision there? I think no one would even consider Redfall.

Just being stupid. I think I would win the lottery 500 times before the possibility of this situation ever happening!!! LOL!!!

 

[crackajack]

Microsoft need to decide who they are competing against. Maybe that’s why they’ve come last each and every time.

It's amazon and google, right? Which felt weird at the time, but is probably actually more true than pretending that Sony and Nintendo are really the end goal for MS in this play.

 

[kirby007]

ofcourse im a mere mortal but i can only play on one console/device at once

 

[Walter Matthau]

During the PS3/360/Wii generation I owned a PS3 and only a PS3.

Next consoles I bought were the Wii U and then the Switch.

If I didn't own a Switch, I'd buy a PS5 or Series X.

 

[StealthGoblin]

It's amazon and google, right? Which felt weird at the time, but is probably actually more true than pretending that Sony and Nintendo are really the end goal for MS in this play.

Their answer changes on who they are talking to.
Long play, yes, they want to get to be the cloud dominant player and own the IP to dictate the market. ABK is a step to that.

 

[The Alien]

I'm actually a bit surprised FTC decided to go down this route instead of arguing gaming PCs could be considered a competitor to the three consoles, a platform where MS influence is no doubt much larger.

Nintendo, Xbox, Playstation are all dedicated 'walled gardens". You need to live in their ecosystem to get content, updates, stores, etc.
(Which is why Nintendo is a console).

PC gives user freedom to choose their walled garden. Lol

 

[mckmas8808]

Well, MS can rest assured that when they struggle against Nintendo, they can just buy them, and Corley will be glad to approve of their purchase of a company smaller than ABK

/s

100% this. LOL! While I agree that Nintendo Switch competes with Xbox, the way she reached that conclusion is just dumb.

 

[mckmas8808]

If the Series S really existed as a means to alter regulatory comparisons to enable large scale industry acquisitions, Phil is out there playing 9D chess while the rest of us are eating checkers.

If the Series S was created for that reason......Phil would be a clown and one of the dumbest idiots on Planet Earth. No reason to set back a generation for what's capable just to buy big Publishers. Especially when it's not like the Series S would be "THE" reason why they'd allow a mega purchase like that.

 

[Impotaku]

LOL what competition, nintendo steamrolling everything.

 

[willothedog]

XBox need to decide who they are competing against. Maybe that’s why they’ve come last each and every time.

FTFY. Microsoft certainly doesn't come last in a lot of its products.