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Future for the Red Dead series.. info soon?
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ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Please for the love of everything make it happen 
Brother Sport
Member
I wouldn't mind if Red Dead went further into the future actually. Anyone ever read Cormac McCarthys All the Pretty Horses? Extract from a Wikipedia article:
(Highly recommend reading it, it's great)
It's a story about two guys trying to live the western cowboy life in a world that's completely changed. If the classic cowboys were a dying breed in John Marstons time they're nearly extinct in 1949. I imagine this would be interesting narratively, not longer being a dinosaur like Marston but instead playing as someone younger who actively seeks out being a cowboy in a more modern setting. And it would carry the theme from Redemption, how the old west was near it's end and the people were wedged in between times, nicely.
(Highly recommend reading it, it's great)
It's a story about two guys trying to live the western cowboy life in a world that's completely changed. If the classic cowboys were a dying breed in John Marstons time they're nearly extinct in 1949. I imagine this would be interesting narratively, not longer being a dinosaur like Marston but instead playing as someone younger who actively seeks out being a cowboy in a more modern setting. And it would carry the theme from Redemption, how the old west was near it's end and the people were wedged in between times, nicely.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
I'd go further back, such rich possibilities.
Dakota47
Member
If R* is going to base a Red Dead game on a McCarthy novel I'd prefer Blood Meridian. In my humble opinion it's immeasurably better than the Horses trilogy.
Supervlieg
Member
Pirates, you heard it here first.
No, but the way they are told will. Games recently entered an era where characters, for instance, are detailed enough to hint at subtle expressions. Where animations systems are linked to physics engine to give them more credible and contextual movements. That alone can change a lot of things in the way a story is told.
PatrickLyons
Member
I think the hardcore mode merely aggravated what were pre-existing problems with the game.
Moving john around areas that are flat and open generally works well, but anytime there's stuff around he moves like garbage, constantly banging into things and stopping suddenly. It's hard to get him to go up steps/ledges if he isn't facing them directly. In many cases, locations that looked like cover ended up not providing cover, meaning you take cover only to die anyway, or not being cover-objects at all, resulting in john sliding over and taking cover behind some other object nearby, often placing him directly in line of fire.
I turned the aim sensitivity to the max and still struggled with aiming whenever enemies got within 20 feet or so, which happened a lot. the game devolved into a challenge to keep enemies at distance, especially the missions where waves of mounted enemies came at you while you were traveling somewhere because a single enemy at close range was almost certain to kill me before i could even target him unless I used dead-eye. I also died a whole lot early in the game to roving blue-dot bandits because i would just be riding along, see a blue dot and go to investigate, it wouldn't show that they were enemies until i got close, and then suddenly they'd open fire and i would die. I eventually learned how to recognize the different blue-dot scenes from a distance. Still, any encounter while mounted was an invitation to die.
Also the knife combat was infuriating in those instances where it was necessary. Sometimes I could get it to sneak-kill guys, sometimes marston would just stand there crouching and looking stupid and the camera would turn oddly and then I'd die, all while I madly tried to swing the knife.
I would also note that I mention these things mostly as constructive criticism that I would hope they work on for the next game. I certainly got my money's worth, and the game does a lot of things I really liked. It just very much felt like a "first try." And while I mentioned that I played it on hardcore just to be clear, my girlfriend played it on normal and died a lot from the same problems, though she just quit playing after a few hours in frustration. Much of the time, hardcore mode meant I needed to be really careful, which I was cool with and wanted, but it also lead to a lot of really cheap deaths when the game forced me into certain set-pieces where being careful wasn't really an option.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
Maybe AGENT INFO OMFG....
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Yeah, but Blood Meridian is one of the greatest novels of all time, so that's not saying very much.
Agent is still in the making - just check some linkedin profiles. Few of them were recently updated, stating they are working on Agent.
edit: there you go :http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/adam-westwood/9/a32/337