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G4TV Big 3 Press Conference Grades

This thread is fucking ridiculous. knocking Nintendo's presentation? Saying they would have gotten all A's if they had been more enthusiastic? It's pretty obvious most of the journalists there are biased towards the new, casual focused nintendo. That's the reason Mario got scattered applause. Both of them. Because they're bright. They are casual friendly.

No matter they're some of the best games ever made in terms of design. You take NSMB's multiplayer, combine it with some of the design of four swords, and anyone who actually cares about game design would be standing up cheering. Instead you hear nothing.

Then the sequel to arguably the greatest game ever made, gets mild applause.

I thought Microsoft had the best show, Nintendo and Sony equal, just a bit lower...But the response and coverage is just sooo incredibly skewed from anything I can understand...
 
Nicktals said:
This thread is fucking ridiculous. knocking Nintendo's presentation? Saying they would have gotten all A's if they had been more enthusiastic? It's pretty obvious most of the journalists there are biased towards the new, casual focused nintendo. That's the reason Mario got scattered applause. Both of them. Because they're bright. They are casual friendly.

No matter they're some of the best games ever made in terms of design. You take NSMB's multiplayer, combine it with some of the design of four swords, and anyone who actually cares about game design would be standing up cheering. Instead you hear nothing.

Then the sequel to arguably the greatest game ever made, gets mild applause.

I thought Microsoft had the best show, Nintendo and Sony equal, just a bit lower...But the response and coverage is just sooo incredibly skewed from anything I can understand...


Nintendo's show was pretty lacking in terms of content. Don't get me wrong. If I still had a Wii, a new Metroid and 2 new Marios would be the first things I'd want to play.

However, a great bulk of the show was giving time to things like Wii Vitality (which is an awful idea), The Women's Murder Mystery Club, and Wii Motion Plus (which we already knew about, and we already saw Wii Sports Resort.) To be honest, we already expected the kind of functionality Wii Motion Plus offers out of the Wii from day one, so Nintendo acting like they've just now discovered the wheel is tiresome.

I wanted to see deep, involved Wii games revealed for the first time. Nintendo's own games were a given, but the rest were third party titles that were known before the show.

You're right when you say new Marios and Metroids don't elicit more of a response from the crowd, but it's still a step in the right direction. Here's the real question. What kind of awareness is created when the sequel to Wii Fit is talked about? From the perspective of an E3 showing, who is that targeting? It's already going to sell. Nintendo knows we're rolling our eyes.
 
gofreak said:
Sounds like they were most impressed with Sony's content, but Microsoft's showmanship was a lot better which is pretty much how I feel.

I agree with that.

Basically, Sony's presser would have been far superior if:

- half of it hadn't been leaked (kills surprise);
- they hadn't shown the motion controls stuff (it's fine but upstaged by Natal, so just show it on the floor instead);
- the conference were shorter and thus more impacting (way too many montage videos and way too long).

Of course, what matters to me (or any gamer, I'd assume) is not the press conference awesomeness (how showy or punchy it is) but the actual game information that can be gleaned. On that count, I think Sony was the best of the three.
 
Kusagari said:
Because MS had the better conference. Nintendo and Sony might have showed more content and better exclusives but MS's conference was pretty much great from beginning to end. Nintendo and Sony's both lagged in parts like Iwata's speech and unveiling of the WTF vitality sensor and Sony's with a little too much focus on PSP especially with 5+ minutes of GT PSP talk without any actual gameplay. Not to mention the horrible showing of the wand with the nervous presenters.

This. Microsoft gave the better conference in terms of showmanship, and it made a great impression even if they didn't have the best or most content. Sony spent too much time on things that gamers just don't care about (charts and statistics), and the montages just have to go. They need another Phil Harrison and Ken Kutaragi. Jack Tretton is okay, but Kaz is really awful.
 
G4TV on point completely

Sony needs to show the hot games like Heavy Rain, SC PSP, Rachet and Clank on full blown screens instead of ugly montages with no titles leaving the crowd to guess what game is being shown. Those montages are also half assed since they again showed PS3 games on PSP montage.

As far as the motion control I think it was great but they need to show something that didnt look like it was made in Dr Marx's basement. An actual game announcement with the tech would have had an amazing impact.
 
Speevy said:
Nintendo's show was pretty lacking in terms of content. Don't get me wrong. If I still had a Wii, a new Metroid and 2 new Marios would be the first things I'd want to play.

However, a great bulk of the show was giving time to things like Wii Vitality (which is an awful idea), The Women's Murder Mystery Club, and Wii Motion Plus (which we already knew about, and we already saw Wii Sports Resort.) To be honest, we already expected the kind of functionality Wii Motion Plus offers out of the Wii from day one, so Nintendo acting like they've just now discovered the wheel is tiresome.

I wanted to see deep, involved Wii games revealed for the first time. Nintendo's own games were a given, but the rest were third party titles that were known before the show.

You're right when you say new Marios and Metroids don't elicit more of a response from the crowd, but it's still a step in the right direction. Here's the real question. What kind of awareness is created when the sequel to Wii Fit is talked about? From the perspective of an E3 showing, who is that targeting? It's already going to sell. Nintendo knows we're rolling our eyes.

I agree with the majority of this. I think Nintendo spent time on some things which were totally unnecessary (wii fit plus), and showed some things which appeal to hardly anyone at this time (wii heart beater). I rate all the conferences closely because both the other companies spent time on games and things i was very uninterested in. This is to be expected, and is totally fine, and is why I'm perfectly fine seeing ratings all over the board.

But the one thing I don't get is just skipping over the two mario games. Everyone might not agree with me here, but I put those games on a different level, simply due to game design. The lack of response they got just baffled me...I guess I kind of expected the grades we're seeing after that response.

The one thing I would disagree with is when you say "I wanted to see deep, involved Wii games revealed for the first time. Nintendo's own games were a given, but the rest were third party titles that were known before the show." Okay, maybe I don't disagree...The first time I read that I thought you were implying that what was shown wasn't deep. I think even Nintendo's casual focused games (Mario Sports games, Wii Sports, and a few others) have just as much depth as many hardcore games (I'm not going to name names because I don't want this to turn into a retarded fanboy thing), and typically don't get credit for it.
 
I wouldn't get too hung up with the crowd reaction from the press conference. there were mic issues.

plus the comments from lots of gaming outlets were pretty enthusiastic about the nintendo metroid and mario reveals.
 
Sol.. said:
I make enough sense. It really is a easy question for that guy and anybody else who cares to answer. Outside of your fandom, do you really see matching effort and ambition? such an easy question.
C"MON...BE REALLLLLLLLLLLLL.

JUST BE REALLLLLL, CMONNNNNNNNNNNNN.
 
I think the scores are reflective of how Nintendo has increasingly distanced themselves from their "core" audience. If Wii was on the same competitive level as PS3 and 360, gaming journalists would have easily gave E3 to Nintendo.

Nintendo has deliberately chosen to attack the casual market and it has paid huge for them, but with that, they have lost a lot of their core audience who still wish for a true next gen system and a conventional controller.

Sure, SMG was fun and SMG2 will be just as over even more fun, but they just don't generate the excitement in me that they used to. I think a lot of the gaming community feels the same way and the scores just reflect that.
 
jedimike said:
I think the scores are reflective of how Nintendo has increasingly distanced themselves from their "core" audience. If Wii was on the same competitive level as PS3 and 360, gaming journalists would have easily gave E3 to Nintendo.

Nintendo has deliberately chosen to attack the casual market and it has paid huge for them, but with that, they have lost a lot of their core audience who still wish for a true next gen system and a conventional controller.

Sure, SMG was fun and SMG2 will be just as over even more fun, but they just don't generate the excitement in me that they used to. I think a lot of the gaming community feels the same way and the scores just reflect that.

It's more like how much the "core" games journalists have left Nintendo. These grades don't reflect my anticipation of these titles and they certainly don't reflect the excitement lots of other gamers have for them, which will show up on NPD days to come. This might sound tart, but I feel like MW2 and Halo Reach are as stale as some people think Galaxy 2 and New Super Mario Bros Wii are.
 
jedimike said:
I think the scores are reflective of how Nintendo has increasingly distanced themselves from their "core" audience. If Wii was on the same competitive level as PS3 and 360, gaming journalists would have easily gave E3 to Nintendo.

Nintendo has deliberately chosen to attack the casual market and it has paid huge for them, but with that, they have lost a lot of their core audience who still wish for a true next gen system and a conventional controller.

Sure, SMG was fun and SMG2 will be just as over even more fun, but they just don't generate the excitement in me that they used to. I think a lot of the gaming community feels the same way and the scores just reflect that.

I actually think if Nintendo had given the exact same presentation but without Vitality Sensor, no one would be saying anything negative. If they had announced all the same games and done everything else exactly the same, people would be fine.
 
JKBii said:
It's more like how much the "core" games journalists have left Nintendo. These grades don't reflect my anticipation of these titles and they certainly don't reflect the excitement lots of other gamers have for them, which will show up on NPD days to come. This might sound tart, but I feel like MW2 and Halo Reach are as stale as some people think Galaxy 2 and New Super Mario Bros Wii are.


I agree with you about Halo and while we're at it add in God of War and Metal Gear. Modern Warfare is still exciting to me as it is really only the 2nd game in a series.

In retrospect, the scores are also reflective of who is offering something "new" for the gamers. If Sony would have shown more Agent and less GT5 then they would have walked away with the top grade.
 
MS should get bonus points for making GameFork dude look like a total ass hat.

Sony should get bonus points for having the balls to put 2 Uber-nerds on stage as opposed to a poser wearing sunglasses indoors.
 
Gilgamesh said:
Sure, they did announce all those games. But the other half of the conference was about casual games.

As opposed to half your conference being about videos of home and montages or awkward beatles and Peter Molyneux talking about how great his weird boy simulator is? All three conferences had a bunch of wasted time, lets be fair.
 
G4's grade? F- for not showing the conferences live on my tv you lazy fuckers.

I'd say that the grades are close but should be more like

MS: A-
Nintendo: C-
Sony: B+
 
jedimike said:
Sure, SMG was fun and SMG2 will be just as over even more fun, but they just don't generate the excitement in me that they used to. I think a lot of the gaming community feels the same way and the scores just reflect that.

they certainly have

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laserbeam said:
http://i40.tinypic.com/8y9xea.jpg

Kinda sad that it fits for the 2nd year in a row
No, it really didn't. Microsoft was much more focused this year, Nintendo showed games we were actually interested in, and Sony showed that they DID have good software coming out both soon and later.

rhfb said:
G4's grade? F- for not showing the conferences live on my tv you lazy fuckers.

I'd say that the grades are close but should be more like

MS: A-
Nintendo: C-
Sony: B+
Um, what?
 
Nicktals said:
This thread is fucking ridiculous. knocking Nintendo's presentation? Saying they would have gotten all A's if they had been more enthusiastic? It's pretty obvious most of the journalists there are biased towards the new, casual focused nintendo. That's the reason Mario got scattered applause. Both of them. Because they're bright. They are casual friendly.

No matter they're some of the best games ever made in terms of design. You take NSMB's multiplayer, combine it with some of the design of four swords, and anyone who actually cares about game design would be standing up cheering. Instead you hear nothing.

Then the sequel to arguably the greatest game ever made, gets mild applause.

I thought Microsoft had the best show, Nintendo and Sony equal, just a bit lower...But the response and coverage is just sooo incredibly skewed from anything I can understand...
They had good announcements. The pacing was horrible. I disagree on Cammy. I'd rather she did what she did this year. However, did we really need to see Wii Sports Resort AGAIN? Why spend so much time on it? We've seen it. Did we need so much time on a leadup to Wii Vitality Sensor? Especially with no applications of it announced?

Nintendo had some great announcements but not the best conference.
 
MoogPaul said:
they certainly have

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I'm not sure what your point is here... that user scores are lower than critic scores??? Or is this supposed to prove that Mario is still relevant? If so, fission mailed. Scores can't show game relevance, hype, excitement, etc.
 
Sony and Microsoft basically tied. Showed off about the same amount of games i'm interested in.

intendo had some good stuff, but the number of software shown i'd personally buy was way less than the other 2.

MS and Sony = A
Nintendo = C+
 
jedimike said:
I'm not sure what your point is here... that user scores are lower than critic scores??? Or is this supposed to prove that Mario is still relevant? If so, fission mailed. Scores can't show game relevance, hype, excitement, etc.


wat

Didn't you just say:

I think a lot of the gaming community feels the same way and the scores just reflect that.

So...you say that the scores show that no one cares about Mario anymore but when he posts the super high scores Mario Galaxy got the scores are suddenly irrelevant? Yeah ok.
 
rainking187 said:
wat

So...you say that the scores show that no one cares about Mario anymore but when he posts the super high scores Mario Galaxy got the scores are suddenly irrelevant? Yeah ok.

I was talking about the scores the conferences received... sorry, I should have said grades.
 
jedimike said:
I'm not sure what your point is here...(irrelevant cut)...Or is this supposed to prove that Mario is still relevant? If so, fission mailed.

Are you implying Mario isn't still relevant? I would love to hear you expand on that, if that's indeed what you meant to imply.
 
Nicktals said:
Are you implying Mario isn't still relevant? I would love to hear you expand on that, if that's indeed what you meant to imply.

I'm saying that because Nintendo has decided to focus on the casual market, a significant portion of Nintendo's traditional core audience moved to 360/PS3. Therefore, the announcement of a new Mario game does not have the same impact as it did when Nintendo had competitive hardware. If Nintendo had a true next gen console with a conventional controller they would have received a higher grade for the E3 conference. That's it. Mario doesn't get me nearly as excited as it once did and I'm guessing a majority of the E3 audience feels the same way.

People are wondering why Nintendo is consistently scoring lower with gaming journalists and that's my opinion on it.
 
jedimike said:
I'm saying that because Nintendo has decided to focus on the casual market, a significant portion of Nintendo's traditional core audience moved to 360/PS3. Therefore, the announcement of a new Mario game does not have the same impact as it did when Nintendo had competitive hardware. If Nintendo had a true next gen console with a conventional controller they would have received a higher grade for the E3 conference. That's it. Mario doesn't get me nearly as excited as it once did and I'm guessing a majority of the E3 audience feels the same way.

People are wondering why Nintendo is consistently scoring lower with gaming journalists and that's my opinion on it.

I think you have a good point there...But it shouldn't apply in this case, eventhough it very well might. These are games journalists. They should own all three consoles (or at least the Wii, if they're at Nintendo's conference), and they shouldn't give a shit about core, or even resolution. They should care about the games. Which is why it's sad, and frustrating.
 
jedimike said:
I'm saying that because Nintendo has decided to focus on the casual market, a significant portion of Nintendo's traditional core audience moved to 360/PS3. Therefore, the announcement of a new Mario game does not have the same impact as it did when Nintendo had competitive hardware. If Nintendo had a true next gen console with a conventional controller they would have received a higher grade for the E3 conference. That's it. Mario doesn't get me nearly as excited as it once did and I'm guessing a majority of the E3 audience feels the same way.

People are wondering why Nintendo is consistently scoring lower with gaming journalists and that's my opinion on it.

There are not enough :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Nintendos core gamer is the guy who has been playing since 1985 and plays every single mario game made and will never stop playing Mario. The fact is you cannot get a Nintendo quality experiance on any other console as far as the style of Games a Nintendo fan would obsess over.

The Gaming Press is simply made up of quite honestly too many graphics whores. Since the Wii unveil its been a gradual move away in the press even while as good as ever Nintendo titles have come out
 
This thread has lost its way. Now Nintendo lost because their conference was too casual friendly? What conference were you watching. Did you all watch the 2008 conference by mistake?
 
Sony best content, MS best presentation agreed. But i would not give bonus point for having the clueless celebrities (like ringo and paul) on stage, those parts of the MS conference were mainly painful to watch.
 
Firestorm said:
Um, what?
Conferences were not live for me. No clue WTF was up, but there was a 3 or 4hour delay from when they happened to when I was able to watch them "live" on my TV. Only reason I can think of this happening was because my cable company uses a East Coast feed, but adds the 4 hours so shows that show "live" at say 2pm, would also show at 2pm in Alaska... I don't really care because I was able to stream live, but it would have been nice to watch them on TV as well.
 
Can someone explain to me why G4 says that Splinter Cell is not exclusive? I thought it was exclusive? Or did that change? I really want to know, it's kind of the pushing factor to whether I need to buy a 360 or not. :D
 
FromTheFuture said:
Can someone explain to me why G4 says that Splinter Cell is not exclusive? I thought it was exclusive? Or did that change? I really want to know, it's kind of the pushing factor to whether I need to buy a 360 or not. :D
It's exclusive for now.
 
FromTheFuture said:
Can someone explain to me why G4 says that Splinter Cell is not exclusive? I thought it was exclusive? Or did that change? I really want to know, it's kind of the pushing factor to whether I need to buy a 360 or not. :D

It's most likely a timed exclusive.
 
laserbeam said:
There are not enough :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Nintendos core gamer is the guy who has been playing since 1985 and plays every single mario game made and will never stop playing Mario. The fact is you cannot get a Nintendo quality experiance on any other console as far as the style of Games a Nintendo fan would obsess over.

The Gaming Press is simply made up of quite honestly too many graphics whores. Since the Wii unveil its been a gradual move away in the press even while as good as ever Nintendo titles have come out
I was a pretty hardcore Nintendo fan owning a GCN and N64 only during those gens (well, got PS2 in 2006). I'm sorry but I moved on. I still have a Wii and I still get the Nintendo games but it's far from my preferred platform.
 
FromTheFuture said:
Can someone explain to me why G4 says that Splinter Cell is not exclusive? I thought it was exclusive? Or did that change? I really want to know, it's kind of the pushing factor to whether I need to buy a 360 or not. :D
A thing called PC Exists...


pakkit said:
It's exclusive for now.
Not in this one

jorma said:
It's most likely a timed exclusive.
Nor this one



Anyways, So Sony had better content yet MS presented better. I'll buy it. It doesn't fit my scale of Buy, Avoid, Rent though =[
 
Okay, I didn't give grades, before, but since it seems to be the ongoing theme of the thread...

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Presentation:

Microsoft = A
Sony = B
Nintendo = D


Content, i.e., you didn't watch the conferences, and just had a list of games in front of you:

Sony = S
Microsoft = A
Nintendo = B
---------------------------------------------------------------

Most major sites seem to be giving the best conference award to Microsoft, based on presentation, which includes games, too. Even G4 gave the nod to Sony, for content, but best conference to Microsoft. However, the vast majority of consumers did not even watch any E3 footage. A content analysis is much more helpful to the majority of consumers. The popular judging criteria is like selling albums to a music consumer on the strength of concert theatrics, instead of just the music. At the end of the day, the consumer is going to enjoy the music, not the concert that he never attended.
 
I'll rank since grades are mostly meaningless. 1) Microsoft, 2) Sony, 3) Nintendo

Microsoft's had problems here and there. It started out really boring until they brought out the star power. The Modern Warfare 2 demo was just a terrible part to show. The Forza 3 part should have shown more about the game, even though it was very clever how they addressed all concerns from Forza 2 in a short clip (cockpit, roll over, not ugly); most of that time was spent showing just how petty they could sound. And the Natal footage shown was too much of a disconnect from what was demoed live, even if what was demoed was very impressive.

Other than the few problems, you had a bunch of great games shown off. Reemergence of both Splinter Cell and Alan Wake, both looked great. Halo ODST demo with new game announcement and the announcement that the beta for the new game will ship with ODST. Crackdown 2 trailer. Metal Gear Rising on 360 with Kojima on stage. Cool looking Metroid style game for XBLA. Got two Beatles on stage. Facebook, Twitter, whatever the hell else. 1080p movie streaming. Easier Netflix usage and that virutal room thing. Ending it with Natal and showing how cool that was. I'm forgetting some stuff, but it pretty much covered all bases. The pacing was nice and didn't have long boring parts like the other two.

Sony's was really uneven. First off, stop talking about the PS2. Don't talk so damn much. Microsoft was smart to say that they will show off games, and you almost got an idea that Sony would do the same at first. Gran Tursimo Portable was like an energy suck. MAG was a poor demo choice considering the concept. A bunch of new PSP game announcements, no looks or demos at the games or unit. The PSP-2000 had more coverage in 2006. A lot of people fault the showing because things were leaked early, but what a stupid way to think; they planned this stuff and couldn't change it just because things leaked. And don't ever talk about Home.

The conference did start great with the amazing Uncharted 2 footage. Then boring shit for a while before PSP announcement. A lot of good games were shown, which is a plus, but they really needed to show off Gran Tursimo being played. Metal Gear Peace Walker trailer was great. Assassin's Creed 2 demo was really incredible. The Last Guardian trailer was the single best trailer at E3. God of War 3, another amazing demo. ModNation Racing was neat, especially because it's pushing the creating and sharing thing. Final Fantasy 14 was the biggest "wut" moment of E3; I thought he meant Versus XIII. The motion controller was neat as well. They were able to show it off right there in there, no faults, working in a variety of applications. It basically improving the parts I like about the Wii; but since it's Sony, it will most likely not surface again. Overall it was solid, just not as crazy and good as Microsoft.

Nintendo's, in the end, really came down to two trailers. Galaxy 2 is probably goty 2010 and Metroid looks interesting, but the rest of that conference was a stinker. New Super Mario Bros Wii is a good announcement, but like with Modern Warfare 2, the demo of it was so boring. I didn't even realize how much I wanted the game until after the black hole of excitement that was the crowd up there. Golden Sun DS and the Mario DK game on DSiware were also two other great announcements. But that's all there was there. They should have had more, and actually good, demos of games up there. They picked the two worst looking Wii Sports Resort games to show off. As if that wasn't bad enough, they had an extremely awkward bit with Reggie and that other guy. Luckily they had the cool archery demo at the end. The rest of the time was just boring. The only new product they revealed, but didn't show, was the thing you stick your finger in. ok.
 
Firestorm said:
I was a pretty hardcore Nintendo fan owning a GCN and N64 only during those gens (well, got PS2 in 2006). I'm sorry but I moved on. I still have a Wii and I still get the Nintendo games but it's far from my preferred platform.

Thats how its basically been since the end of the SNES era. You get the Nintendo Systems for the Nintendo Games. The N64 had its share of good third party but that was basically the beginning of Nintendo making its mistakes of no CD than in the GC using mini DVDs instead of normal. For 2 generatons nintendo made it hard for 3rd parties to put stuff on their systems.

The wii has been neglected out of sheer unwillingness to admit Nintendo wins the generation. People with their stupid charts and graphs predicting some miracle Sony come back etc
 
So one guy's blog is now the concensus of all G4 now?

Remember, this is just my opinion on the E3 2009 press conferences. I want to know if you agree or disagree with my assessments. Think I'm right? Think I'm wrong? What letter grades would you dole out to the big three? I want to know!
 
Kusagari said:
Because MS had the better conference. Nintendo and Sony might have showed more content and better exclusives but MS's conference was pretty much great from beginning to end. Nintendo and Sony's both lagged in parts like Iwata's speech and unveiling of the WTF vitality sensor and Sony's with a little too much focus on PSP especially with 5+ minutes of GT PSP talk without any actual gameplay. Not to mention the horrible showing of the wand with the nervous presenters.

I can agree with this but what matters in a VIDEOGAME conference is the content, the games. It's wierd to rate the conferences as pure conferences there.

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Personally

MS without NATAL - B
MS with NATAL - B-

Nintendo pure information - B
Nintendo presentation - C

Sony without Ball with Stick - B
Sony with Ball with Stick- B-

Personally I think it was pretty even this year in terms of what was announced.. NATAL and Ball with Stick both were ridiculous and bad announcement contrary to what other people say.. Why..? Because 1. its way too late (50 million wiimotes sold later.. cmon) 2. it only proves Nintendo was right.. I think it would have been better if they just dropped that projects or waited until next gen. Its hard to believe that people will pay extra money to get those peripherals..

That said.. gamewise MS had some solid looking stuff and some good new announcements (Halo Reach being one of em) Sony had FF XIV and a lot of good looking titles.. Overall i think Sony had the edge in terms of exclusive titles this year.. but not by Much..

Nintendo is a mixed bag.. they had great new information with Mario Bros, Mario Galaxy 2, Metroid, Sin and Punishment, Monado, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus (New Zelda, Pikmin 3 confirmed once again.. but not shown) But the presentation again.. was bad.. Third party support ramped up quite a bit ( Redtseel 2, Silent Hill, Grinder, Gladiator AD, Conduit, REDSC, Tatsunoko and so on provide quite a good third party lineup) and they had a lot of hardcore games (Monado.. why didnt you show it) But Nintendos conference itself was very boring.. No Miyamoto is total fail

I dont think that E3 will have impact on the gaming industry.. Nintendo will roll over the competition again and Wii Motion Plus got a lot of free advertisement from Sony and MS.. Nintendo should pay them
 
jedimike said:
I'm not sure what your point is here... that user scores are lower than critic scores??? Or is this supposed to prove that Mario is still relevant? If so, fission mailed. Scores can't show game relevance, hype, excitement, etc.
but sales can.. and Mario Galaxy sold about 8 million copies world wide.. which means its one of the biggest franchises out there

NSMBWii is about twice as big though
 
Let's see

Microsoft: A
One of, if not the best press conference in years.
"Well BAM there it is!"
The Kojima shoulder tap, Forza 3, Project NATAL, hot Square-Enix translator and Peter Molyneux, the presentation was great. They had humor, trash talk, great games and awesome announcements. It's like they asked one of their fans what a press conference should look like. Could've been an AAA+ show if RARE was there... :(

Nintendo: B
Great show, Nintendo adressed all the complaints and had some big surprises like Golden Sun DS and Metroid: Other M. They've shown they still got what it takes to build up a great line-up. The only downside is that 2009 is still a bit barren on the first party side, that they decided not to show a Zelda trailer and the presentation wasn't as lolworthy as Microsoft's.

Sony: B
First of all, Sony talked more about sales that Nintendo, that was just wrong. Showed way too many multiplatform games. Most of what they showed already leaked. The Motion Tech looked good, but MS's software looked to be much further in development. God of War III in 2010, they only announced the Rockstar game, didn't have anything to show yet. No PS3 Slim and no pricedrop. They had a bunch of great announcements and games to show.

Or is this supposed to prove that Mario is still relevant?
NPD results of April 2009


FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD Wii 471K
POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION NDS 433K
MARIO KART W/ WHEEL Wii 210K
PLAY W/ REMOTE Wii 170K
THE GODFATHER II 360 155K
RESIDENT EVIL 5* 360 122K
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NDS 119K < released May 2006
MARIO KART DS NDS 112K
GUITAR HERO AEROSMITH* 360 110K
THE GODFATHER II PS3 91K
 
[Nintex] said:
NPD results of April 2009


FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD Wii 471K
POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION NDS 433K
MARIO KART W/ WHEEL Wii 210K
PLAY W/ REMOTE Wii 170K
THE GODFATHER II 360 155K
RESIDENT EVIL 5* 360 122K
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NDS 119K < released May 2006
MARIO KART DS NDS 112K
GUITAR HERO AEROSMITH* 360 110K
THE GODFATHER II PS3 91K
wow that is ownage

3 mario titles in the last months top 10 and some people say its irrelevant :lol :lol
 
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