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GAF, was my breakfast healthy?
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ClassyPenguin
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from Katherine Zeratsky, R.D., L.D.
Health concerns about canola oil are unfounded. Canola oil, which is extracted from the seeds of the canola plant, is generally recognized as safe by the Food and Drug Administration.
Misinformation about canola oil may stem from the fact that the canola plant was developed through crossbreeding with the rapeseed plant. Rapeseed oil contains very high levels of erucic acid, a compound that in large amounts can be toxic to humans. Canola oil, however, contains very low levels of erucic acid.
Canola oil is also low in saturated fat and has a high proportion of monounsaturated fat, which makes it a healthy and safe choice when it comes to cooking oils."
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/canola-oil/AN01281
Four strips of bacon is excessive. You can get plenty of bacon flavor with one strip halved for a sandwich, or two strips. Also make sure you're buying low sodium bacon. Ton less sodium, all the bacon flavor.
If you want a sandwich, use wheat toast.
Otherwise, ditch the bagel and add more eggs.
Not bad, just a few tweaks and you're good. Add a handful of grapes, a banana, or an apple and you're really rocking and rolling.
If you want a sandwich, use wheat toast.
Otherwise, ditch the bagel and add more eggs.
Not bad, just a few tweaks and you're good. Add a handful of grapes, a banana, or an apple and you're really rocking and rolling.
RustyNails
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Not everyone can eat eggs in breakfast without having to go poop. Whenever I eat eggs I have to go poop and it's the bad kind.
Admiral Bone to Pick
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Just so you know, if you're calling paleo/low carb eating a "fad," your own link contradicts you.
ClassyPenguin
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No it doesn't since it is a flexible term. You can use meme as well.
Paleo diets are still fads, or pseudo-science (based on assumptions and anecdotes) even though the idea has been around in the last century or so.
I don't consider something like the Inuit traditional diet to be a part of it, since like most of human history, it is based on environment and maintaining or gaining weight, especially fat. Or something like Northern European diets.
Discover magazine has a great article on the Inuits.
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/oct/inuit-paradox#.UeseBI03uSo
What are the goals of your diet (i.e., are you trying to lose weight? Build muscle? Maintain your body composition while getting enough vitamins/minerals?)? And what does the rest of your diet usually look like?
Without getting answers to the above, it's virtually impossible to say if that is a "healthy" breakfast. None of it necessarily looks "bad" to me, when viewed in isolation, other than the OJ - I think you can get the vitamins in that in a lot more efficient ways that aren't overloaded with sugar.
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Keep on truckin', ClassyPenguin. Enjoy your processed GMO corn and soy products fried up in deodorized canola oil. You'll always have your hand-picked studies and answers from doctors to justify your decisions while you continue to struggle with weight and health issues.
ClassyPenguin
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lol, and your evidence for those being bad?
GMO's are safe, artificial sweeteners are safe, vegetable oils are safe. All have been studied thoroughly and no evidence of it being toxic has ever been produced.
Struggle with weight and health? I have depression and take an SSRI which contributes to weight gain, other than that I am healthy. Good blood sugar and pressure. I exercise and eat a balanced, a bit on the low carb side since I live with my parents and my dad has diabetes.
Now doctors can't be trusted? Oh lol.
SquiddyCracker
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Aside from the orange juice, it's all fine even by the more restrictive diets.
Not the strictest ones though, but then very few things apply to those
Not the strictest ones though, but then very few things apply to those
triplestation
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Eat all the bacon and eggs u want its actually good for u
Personally when I eat a healthy breakfast, its just 3-4 scrambled organic eggs and a glass of milk, sometimes add some ham in. Orange juice is too acidic and has too much sugar, bagels have too much carbs. You could do a lot worse though, a.k.a. cereal that's not fiber or whole wheat based.
Devolution
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It's one meal and it's fine. People are going to nitpick but it's really dependent on whatever else you're eating.
John Rabbit
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I read these threads sometimes, and I always wonder why people fight so much over the source of their calories, rather than just the number. Is there any reason to believe that as long as you have a certain basic amount of protein, fiber, carbohydrates, fat, and vitamins, that it makes any difference where your calories come from?
Northeastmonk
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A good way to start your day.
Ever read Bill Cosby's book "I Am What I Ate...and I'm frightened!!!"?
Devolution
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For fitness goals, I would say that most people probably want to either get slim and strong, or stay that way. As for body chemistry, I, for one, really don't know what mine is or how I would find out. Do most people know?
CeruleanSilver
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This is a real mess of a thread to jump into. I'm not reading 4 pages of bickering, but to add my own opinion: your breakfast is not bad (indeed it could be just what you need if the rest of your diet is more spare) but in isolation there are improvements to make:
I'm not anti-fat. I don't think one should be afraid of fat. But if you're really trying to lose weight, this isn't a great basis for your diet.
Anyways, kudos for preparing and cooking up some real food! That's always to be commended. Personally I'd just lower the amount of fat, and replace your juice with real fruit.
If you're really trying to lose fat, why fry an egg? Hard boiled or steamed would be better. Likewise bacon isn't the leanest food you could eat. Protein is great, but greasy and fried? Cheese is also really fatty.
I'm not anti-fat. I don't think one should be afraid of fat. But if you're really trying to lose weight, this isn't a great basis for your diet.
Yes bagels have plenty of calories, but at least you're eating whole wheat. Just as with fat, I don't think people should avoid carbs. And eating less processed food is always the best of your options, which brings us to:
Why not just eat some whole oranges? You're paying some corporation to squeeze out the juice for you, and then adding back in the fiber yourself? Just get all that from the whole fruit to begin with. Not only will you get your fiber, but you might also benefit from whatever micronutrients and other things haven't been blanched out by some industrial process.
Anyways, kudos for preparing and cooking up some real food! That's always to be commended. Personally I'd just lower the amount of fat, and replace your juice with real fruit.
CeruleanSilver
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Yes and no. You're right that molecules are molecules, and where they come from might not matter very much. The trouble is that the nutritional information on the back of foods in the USA doesn't give you the full information. And really, it'd be hard to list all the information you need.
For example, protein is protein right? Well yes, but no. Probably you've heard of complete proteins? Does the label tell you which you're getting? No. Does it matter? Maybe. Your body may be able to synthesize the ones it needs, but at what cost, and with what inputs?
You can follow this logic for all your other nutritional needs. The label gives you an idea, but it doesn't necessarily even know what to measure.
What I'm getting at is this: people want to believe there is a single best diet and a single best choice in any given situation, but common sense tells me that the minimum amount of all the basic stuff you need, including fat and starch as well as different kinds of protein and amino acids, could probably fit in half a cup. You still need a lot more calories than that, of course, but after you get the minimum, it doesn't matter where they come from.
I've been taught not to trust common sense, though, which is why I'm asking.
Rawket Lawnchair
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I'd get rid of those facebook friends if I were you, OP.
Like a fart in the day i should say. His stomach is going to rumble and not in a pretty way.
I'd feel awful after a breakfast like that. I've always just had cereal, and that's pretty much what I still do today.
Weeties with some dried cranberries sprinkled over them, plus low-fat milk. Used to have a glass of juice too, but tends to be water now (as much as I love juice, hella full of sugar).
It's entirely possible I've been misinformed, but I've always understood that bacon will make any meal an unhealthy one.
Weeties with some dried cranberries sprinkled over them, plus low-fat milk. Used to have a glass of juice too, but tends to be water now (as much as I love juice, hella full of sugar).
It's entirely possible I've been misinformed, but I've always understood that bacon will make any meal an unhealthy one.
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